I know myself, as I get older I care less and less about sports or watching it on Tv. The powers that be have ruined sports. NFL can’t hardly touch the QB. Can’t touch the wideouts. Terrible officiating even with the reviews. Officiating and bad rules have about ruined college Basketball as well. I could go on, but you get the point
OT: More painful layoffs for ESPN?
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Totally dumbass take. Pretty sure Will Cain is on my political take and I hate him and his stupid takes.
Just stick to sports.
Making fun of the people that say this in a roundabout way but would never admit it.
Whooooooosh....
Also, if I ever go full-on Pol Pot and decide to do some national cleansing, Skip Bayless and Stephen A. Smith are on borrowed time.
Every time I see either of those yahoos, I think "WHY IS MY TELEVISION YELLING AT ME WITH STUPID OPINIONS? WHO PROGRAMMED THIS?"
If Trump can convince Little Rocketman to hit Bristol, CN with an A-bomb it might be the greatest con ever.
Every time I see either of those yahoos, I think "WHY IS MY TELEVISION YELLING AT ME WITH STUPID OPINIONS? WHO PROGRAMMED THIS?"
If Trump can convince Little Rocketman to hit Bristol, CN with an A-bomb it might be the greatest con ever.
Because they are the best college basketball guys around. Ya'll just think you have to hate them because they once said something you don't agree with.
YOU DON'T AGREE WITH MY POLITICS. I HOPE YOU LOSE YOUR LIVELIHOOD.
Political wingnuts are a GD scary *** cult, both ways.
Political wingnuts are a GD scary *** cult, both ways.
More bad news could be on the horizon for ESPN. Staffers at the Worldwide Leader in Sports are bracing for another possible round of layoffs late this year, multiple sources tell Sporting News.
The next round of cutbacks could come down in late November or early December, with 40-60 positions potentially being impacted, according to sources. The layoffs could hit both on-air TV/radio talent and behind-the-scenes production staffers.
"This time it won't matter if you're 'liked' or not. It's not going to be pretty," one source warned.
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You both are right.
Now, can you name the ones on espn that are politically conservative and have voiced that on air? You might view this as a "both sides are wrong" issue. But there's really only one side - that we see anyway.
Who is "we?" The viewer in general? The liberal viewer? The conservative viewer?
I don't pay attention because a) I only watch ESPN for game coverage, nothing else b) People who get that butthurt over politics are clowns in my eyes c) political wingnuts on both sides need to thicken their skin and quit playing the victim card - liberal/conservative persecution complexes are sad and deserving of ridicule.
Finally, it's all a result of people living in bubbles. Liberals don't want to hear anything but liberal opinions so they consume nothing but liberal opinions and conservatives are the same way.
How about just stick to sports? I don't wanna hear Will Cain or Hill talk about what "they believe". Just go back to sports center from the 90, early 2000's.
I agree. I'm sick of pandering just as much as controversy.
Now that you mention it, I haven't really watched Sports center as a show in at least 10 years. It's faster and less aggravating to skim the website, and no waiting through segments I don't care to watch or piss me off with a lovefest.
Yeah except that’s now how it is. They cringeworthingly pander and insert their ridiculous and ignorant and racist beliefs when discussing sports. They’re not news anchors. They don’t work for CNN or msnbc.
Hopefully... you’re bright enough to understand that? Maybe?
Latest example of why ESPN makes my blood boil. On the bottom line of the basketball game they are reporting that Bob McNair called the NFL players inmates. No, he absolutely, positively did not. He used a phrase that has been around and accepted for longer than I've been alive. The phrase never had anything to do with race.
I used to watch sports center first thing in the morning, first thing when I got home and then right before I went to bed. I have not watched them for a year or so now. Get out of the political and PC world and I will watch them again, until then, no.
You are trying to act like it is not....for me it really is. Sorry to burst your bubble.You guys that keep trying to act like it's because of politics.
Their coward move in giving into the liberal agenda is going to be their downfall.
Yep, it’s honestly disturbing. People believe it. It’s sxwry how naive people are. Seriously.
And it’s everywhere... CNN. MSNBC, yahoo, google , twitter , YouTube .. abc , nbc etc etc ...
Bull crap. It is impossible these days to be a conservative and live in an echo chamber. Hollywood is 100 percent liberal and so are the shows. Can't watch Ozark, a show about a family who money launders for a Mexican drug cartel without a monologue about how awesome Obama was (true story). You only get one view in college today. And our network media and major newspapers are about 99 percent to the left.
Social media sites like Twitter and Facebook only promote one view and only silence and suspend one type and it's not suspending liberals.
This "both sides" stuff is pure ****. And I know you're liberal based on a lot of your posts and seem to have beef with the "redneck" type but I'd love to see the left get a dose of what conservatives get on a daily basis where you have to whisper your views, where you can get fired or not hired, where you're silenced on campuses and dehumanized as a "Nazi" or "racist" all the time and where your views get silenced on social media and your videos demonetized on YouTube.
The left has a stranglehold on everything. And there's a reason why universities need tons of security when trying to present a conservative point of view on campus.
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It's hard not to be prejudist against them when their faginas are so dirty and burnt looking. I mean, what's the deal with that, you guys?
Once they lose the NFL to Amazon they are done. There's really no need for sportscenter either because I can just pick and choose what highlights I want to see from my phone. But they make it worse on themselves by giving me a chance to maybe see NBA highlights I missed...instead right after they just showed Monday night football, they then 3/4 of the episode showing highlights, play by play of the game they just aired..then talking about it non stop for a week. I have no idea what they air during work hours.
They need to get rid of all these ppl, just air games, and then can have some discussion shows with ppl that know what they are taking about. Regardless of Jemele's politics she's clueless of any type of sport.
They need to get rid of all these ppl, just air games, and then can have some discussion shows with ppl that know what they are taking about. Regardless of Jemele's politics she's clueless of any type of sport.
And in other old white guy news: I really give absolutely zero ***** about what anyone said on twitter. None. Do. Not. Care.
I have no idea what the media's fascination with twitter is (I assume it is easy content in a 24 hour news cycle and/or some sort of analytics that I don't care to research) but stop with it.
Jokes and sports and strongman games and sumo and curling or whatever. That is what made ESPN great. Whatever they are doing now is insufferable.
In college all of my roommates used to get up to watch sumo on our days when we had late classes and we all had favorite sumo wrestlers (Takanohana represent!) and would bust each other's balls and have fun.
Now it is a bunch of people yelling at each other.
Nope.
I have no idea what the media's fascination with twitter is (I assume it is easy content in a 24 hour news cycle and/or some sort of analytics that I don't care to research) but stop with it.
Jokes and sports and strongman games and sumo and curling or whatever. That is what made ESPN great. Whatever they are doing now is insufferable.
In college all of my roommates used to get up to watch sumo on our days when we had late classes and we all had favorite sumo wrestlers (Takanohana represent!) and would bust each other's balls and have fun.
Now it is a bunch of people yelling at each other.
Nope.
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ESPN’s foreshadowed their demise with their ****** website. The site always changed its format, tried to tailor/customize the experience to personalized tastes of the consumer and failed. And keeps failing. It shows that the braintrust is grasping at straws on direction, and sucks at it.
That and they hitched their contractual wagon to a multi-billion dollar NFL playoff package and were treated to some of the lowest rated / shittiest games ever televised. They lost their ***.
It had nothing to do with dudes kneeling.
TV execs think their unchallenged brand is infallible, when in fact, they keep steering the luxury cruise liner into icebergs. Idiots.
That and they hitched their contractual wagon to a multi-billion dollar NFL playoff package and were treated to some of the lowest rated / shittiest games ever televised. They lost their ***.
It had nothing to do with dudes kneeling.
TV execs think their unchallenged brand is infallible, when in fact, they keep steering the luxury cruise liner into icebergs. Idiots.
Dude they are losing viewers for their non-game content for one reason. I am going to spell this out as clearly as possible.
They hired all these personalities for their daytime TV. 10 years ago if you had time to watch daytime TV you turned on the TV and you had roughly 100 choices. 10 of those choices had soap operas on. 10 of those choices had on a talk show. 10 of those choices were trying to sell you something. 40 of those choices were the news. 10 of those choices were sports. The other 20 were various reruns and movies.
The vast majority of the time if you were a male age 13-55 you either got lucky because some movie was on that you liked or your default was ESPN.
Let's fast forward 10 years. There are still 100 crappy offerings on the cable, but you also have literally the entire library of every movie and TV show ever created at your fingertips with a click of a button. Now the default is I want to binge watch some show I am interested in. ESPN daytime personality driven TV was default when there was nothing else on, now with Netflix, Prime, Hulu, On-Demand, whatever there is always something on so there is no need to go to the default.
Now let me break some math to you. What you are seeing is correlation. You think ESPN talks more politics and you know that their viewership for personality driven shows is dropping. This is a correlation. Correlation does not equal causation. For instance If I observe that I am eating a lot and gaining weight but my friend is eating less and losing weight at the same time there are at least 5 correlations going on:
1. I am eating more and my friend is losing weight.
2. My friend is eating less and I am gaining weight.
3. My friend is eating less and he is losing weight.
4. I am eating more and I am gaining weight.
5. I am gaining weight while my friend is losing weight.
We know that 3 & 4 are true. We also know that 1, 2, & 5 are just coincidental. That means they coincide but have nothing to do with each other.
To make yourself a better purveyor of the world please consider that the things you see are mearly observations even if correlated they may not mean causation. You will be smarter and more knowledgeable.
Now think about what makes sense in ESPN's case. That 20% or so of the population is so turned off of their politics that 80% of people have tuned out of their daytime programming or that 100% of people have been given access to an infinite amount of programming choices and they are now choosing other things to watch?
Can I get the cliff notes version of that last post?
Also, I'm at the gym and look up to see ESPN has an entire segment with three people, one I assume is a fashionista, walking amongst mannequins discussing what teams like Ohio, Houston, and Miami (OH) are going to wear today.
Good lord........
Also, I'm at the gym and look up to see ESPN has an entire segment with three people, one I assume is a fashionista, walking amongst mannequins discussing what teams like Ohio, Houston, and Miami (OH) are going to wear today.
Good lord........
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I think they could still be salvaged if they went back to what made them great. Give us sports programming. Not sports talk! Not reality shows! Not documentaries! Just sports.
They will never, ever be what they used to be. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. As others have already pointed out, too many other options for viewers to choose from. But I know I would gladly watch Aussie football, NHRA drag racing, cricket, rugby, lacrosse, or any number of sports they might choose to air. I will not watch 8 stuffed shirts sitting at a desk dissecting every facet of an NFL game.
They will never, ever be what they used to be. Can't put that genie back in the bottle. As others have already pointed out, too many other options for viewers to choose from. But I know I would gladly watch Aussie football, NHRA drag racing, cricket, rugby, lacrosse, or any number of sports they might choose to air. I will not watch 8 stuffed shirts sitting at a desk dissecting every facet of an NFL game.
Think of all the competition that has been added simply in the sports genre.
Every major North American pro league now has its own network that specializes in one sport and one sport only. Every major NCAA conference has its own network. NBC, cbs, and fox each have their own sports networks. Hell, fox has 2 of them.
Who do you think provides better baseball commentary - a network that mixes in baseball with 15 other sports (ESPN,) or a network that is dedicated to baseball 24/7?
This doesn't even factor in streaming. Cable subscriptions are tanking - not because of espn, but because cable is a ripoff and only idiots are staying on that wagon.
Every major North American pro league now has its own network that specializes in one sport and one sport only. Every major NCAA conference has its own network. NBC, cbs, and fox each have their own sports networks. Hell, fox has 2 of them.
Who do you think provides better baseball commentary - a network that mixes in baseball with 15 other sports (ESPN,) or a network that is dedicated to baseball 24/7?
This doesn't even factor in streaming. Cable subscriptions are tanking - not because of espn, but because cable is a ripoff and only idiots are staying on that wagon.
According to Forbes, in the last quarter the following companies lost this many subscribers:
* Comcast - 125K (up 4X over the previous year's quarter)
* AT&T/DirecTV - 385K (record setting drop)
* Charter/Spectrum - 104K (2X worse than last year's quarter)
* Dish - 106K (actually an improvement from the previous year's quarter loss of 281K)
That's 720K new cord cutters in a fiscal QUARTER, not a year. By the end of 2017, an estimated 22.2 million people will have cut the cord, which is up 33% from last year and "cord nevers" (people who have never subscribed) is expected to rise to 34.4 million (a rise of 5.8%).
Political butt hurt has next to nothing to do with ESPN's troubles. It's simply people who are cutting the cord with their TV providers because of outrageous prices. Think ESPN has been the only one affected? Check out the program lineups of other cable networks sometime. You'll find marathons of Parking Lot Wars, Vegan Cupcake Wars, Ice Road Scrapers, American Junkyards, etc....and the programming costs of these networks are pennies on the dollar compared to what ESPN spends on televising live sports alone.
Sounds like you've got quite a victim complex there, bud. I'm sorry it's so tough for you to live your life without being so oppressed by those big, bad liberals in their ***** hats, skinny jeans, capes and scarves. I never knew.
You hate people who play the victim as you express in any thread to do with race or gender, yet here you are doing the same damn thing. Your hypocrisy is through the roof on this.
The only point in your diatribe (that isn't a redundancy that I've heard from you 100 times before) I'll address is the college thing. When you say "conservative view" do you mean people like Richard Spencer? That's not a conservative view. That's a racist. Big difference there. I've only heard of problems when Milo, Coulter or Spencer speak. They're the lowest forms of trash around because they use the Westboro playbook. They try to incite a negative reaction by spewing hate speech, draw the reaction they seek (sometimes to include a few punches), cry about it and play the victim to achieve martyr status from fellow sycophants. If you go looking for trouble and find it, don't act like a victim. That's weak ****.