OT: NFL QB Draft Class

mt_slothmore

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Of the big 4 (Murray, Haskins, Jones & Lock), who do you see having a really nice career?

I'm a self-admitted Denver fan and think they got really good value with Lock in the 2nd. I think he'll be starting by year 3 at the latest but jury's out on whether he'll be closer to Jay Cutler than Pat Mahommes
 
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otismotis08

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QB is such a tough position to project. I think a lot depends on the coaching staff. All of these guys have the physical tools, but you almost need a QB whisperer of sorts. Clearly, guys like Doug Pederson and Andy Reid know a franchise QB when they see one.
 

dinglefritz

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QB is such a tough position to project. I think a lot depends on the coaching staff. All of these guys have the physical tools, but you almost need a QB whisperer of sorts. Clearly, guys like Doug Pederson and Andy Reid know a franchise QB when they see one.
I think Murray while he may win some games will be underwhelming. I think Denver's pick at the point that they were able to get him was probably the best value. I do think the Giants got a guy who could maybe play early. The Pats might have stolen one in Stidham. We'll see. I'm not a Haskins fan AT ALL. I don't think he dealt well with pressure and was virtually always throwing to wide open receivers with superior size and speed. To some degree both he and Murray benefited tremendously from playing behind outstanding O lines with NFL talent across the board.
 
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ridge222

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I think a person has to look at the organizations that these QB's are coming in to. Arizona and Washington IMO are a mess right now. That Cardinals team is not good and with Washington, as long a Snyder is involved I don't think Haskins has a really good chance at success.

I do think that Jones and Lock have a chance to not be forced in to a situation where they are in over their heads right away. They also get a chance to sit behind some established QB's who will help them, both have Super Bowls rings. Plus both Jones and Lock have much more experience the Haskins and Murray.
 
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Of the big 4 (Murray, Haskins, Jones & Lock), who do you see having a really nice career?

I'm a self-admitted Denver fan and think they got really good value with Lock in the 2nd. I think he'll be starting by year 3 at the latest but jury's out on whether he'll be closer to Jay Cutler than Pat Mahommes

Sorry to say this but I think lock will be a bust because #1 John elway, #2 he has small hands
 
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Thrilled my team did not need a QB this year, all of them looked like crap shoots to me. I think the Cards are going to regret hiring Kliff, and drafting Kyler. Set that franchise back 2-3 years, depending on when they come to their senses and cut bait.
 

o_Hit

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Of the big 4 (Murray, Haskins, Jones & Lock), who do you see having a really nice career?

I'm a self-admitted Denver fan and think they got really good value with Lock in the 2nd. I think he'll be starting by year 3 at the latest but jury's out on whether he'll be closer to Jay Cutler than Pat Mahommes

Lock is the taller version of Chase Daniel.
 

SeaOfRed75

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I think Murray while he may win some games will be underwhelming. I think Denver's pick at the point that they were able to get him was probably the best value. I do think the Giants got a guy who could maybe play early. The Pats might have stolen one in Stidham. We'll see. I'm not a Haskins fan AT ALL. I don't think he dealt well with pressure and was virtually always throwing to wide open receivers with superior size and speed. To some degree both he and Murray benefited tremendously from playing behind outstanding O lines with NFL talent across the board.
Agreed on the Haskins part. For whatever reason he never impressed me much the way a QB with those numbers should. Just a spidey sense kind of thing. But maybe you are right that he just had his team out talented most.
Imo , the best qb is will Grier.
Thought the same what little I saw of Grier. Didnt see him much but dont understand why he fell so far. He have rocks for brains or what?
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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I'll take haskins. Already pretty good and only played 1 year so still plenty of room to get better. Murray will do fine in that system. Hopefully he stays healthy. Not a big fan of Jones. Lock could go either way - depends on his brain.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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Of the big 4 (Murray, Haskins, Jones & Lock), who do you see having a really nice career?

I'm a self-admitted Denver fan and think they got really good value with Lock in the 2nd. I think he'll be starting by year 3 at the latest but jury's out on whether he'll be closer to Jay Cutler than Pat Mahommes

This was another really good draft for our Broncos. I liked the Lock pick in the second. Risner and Hollins are some good prospects too. Haskins & Jones (LOLgiants) will be busts.
 

RaisingArizona

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In terms of statistical output Murray will be the best pro if you commit to playing a certain style of football. Now, how conducive that true spread style will be to winning in the NFL? Not sure. But I’m confident that he’ll put up huge fantasy numbers of allowed to play that way.

Trevor Lawrence was by far the best pro prospect in college football last year. Tua is going to be a nice Mark Brunell style starter as well.