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bornaneer

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I'm in favor of it and have said so many times. It's been the number cash crop in WV for years. It's time that the state makes money off of it.
 

WVU enginEER

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I'm in favor of it and have said so many times. It's been the number cash crop in WV for years. It's time that the state makes money off of it.
They'll have to double the size of that new agricultural sciences building they just built
 

tjebarr

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This is a no Brainer but we just got Uber in July and still can't get a bloody Mary at the Bavarian inn on a Sunday morning so I can't see us legalizing weed anytime soon
 

jocktalker

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It probably will throw West Virginia's underground economy into chaos but it's probably worth trying in West Virginia. I agree with mdeer1, it's probably not gonna happen in my lifetime.
 

wvcojeep24

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What he doesn't mention is the other side of the equation.
Pot shops opening up within short distances of schools, the millennial party culture, lazy professionals, and others.
It definitely has been a financial boon for CO, but it's not all glorious as he makes it out to be.
I've lived in CO for 12 years and see it first hand. I actually smoked in my early years a bit but won't tough it now. Even though I could drive to the store and get it just like I'm going out for pizza or for groceries. The battle of how do you know when someone is driving under the influence or at work under the influence. There's most definitely still issues.
 

bornaneer

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They'll have to double the size of that new agricultural sciences building they just built
Being in the EP...you know many of us get our gas in VA and many of us spend a lot of money in MD and VA. It would be great to see our bordering states residents spend a little money in WV.
 

The Elf

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What he doesn't mention is the other side of the equation.
Pot shops opening up within short distances of schools, the millennial party culture, lazy professionals, and others.
It definitely has been a financial boon for CO, but it's not all glorious as he makes it out to be.
I've lived in CO for 12 years and see it first hand. I actually smoked in my early years a bit but won't tough it now. Even though I could drive to the store and get it just like I'm going out for pizza or for groceries. The battle of how do you know when someone is driving under the influence or at work under the influence. There's most definitely still issues.
I have not partaken in nearly 30 years and probably wouldn't if it became legal, but the millennial party folk and lazy workers are all already buying with zero issues in finding a source.
 

V-LUV

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Too many bible thumpers south of the mason-dixon line for this to ever happen in this state.
 

WVUBean

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This is OT but wanted to get some thoughts on this. Personally, I think this would be an economic and cultural game changer for WV.

http://www.wvgazettemail.com/gazett...portunity-if-we-push-out-of-our-comfort-zone-
I've told people for the last few years that if they legalized pot and linked it to Eco-tourism in WV, it would bring a lot of money into the state from people on the east coast. As mdeer stated, it won't happen, though. Some other state around WV will do it first and then WV will be playing catch-up. I mean, it's already the number one cash crop, so why not make sure the local and state governments are getting their cut. Maybe it could improve schools and infrastructure. They need to find a viable option after the coal and natural gas jobs finally dry up or are reduced further.
 

WVU enginEER

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What he doesn't mention is the other side of the equation.
Pot shops opening up within short distances of schools, the millennial party culture, lazy professionals, and others.
It definitely has been a financial boon for CO, but it's not all glorious as he makes it out to be.
I've lived in CO for 12 years and see it first hand. I actually smoked in my early years a bit but won't tough it now. Even though I could drive to the store and get it just like I'm going out for pizza or for groceries. The battle of how do you know when someone is driving under the influence or at work under the influence. There's most definitely still issues.
Alcohol & heroin leave the blood stream in short order; however, THC stays for more than 40 days. This presents a problem with drug testing and complying with company policies. I think some things need to be worked out first.
 

WVU enginEER

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I have not partaken in nearly 30 years and probably wouldn't if it became legal, but the millennial party folk and lazy workers are all already buying with zero issues in finding a source.
Lazy workers...........hmmmmmm, so that's the problem. :cop:[smoke]:cop:
 

wvuhskr

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Pot shops opening up within short distances of schools
That's what zoning laws are for though.
the millennial party culture
Millennials are the most educated generation in American history and are very much needed in a state that's aging quite rapidly.
lazy professionals
Colorado's economy has exploded since legalization. What lazy professionals are you referring to? How are professionals using pot any different than those who have a drink after work?

I get that there are some minor issues but it's about how WV allocates finite resources. The state shouldn't be spending so much money on enforcement of an outdated law when we could be reaping some much-needed tax revenue that could be diverted to schools, promise scholarships and road construction.

Also, we cannot deny the medicinal benefits - Colorado has seen a drop in prescription drug abuse since legalization. I'd much rather have someone in pain use pot in a medicinal form than fentanyl or oxycontin.
 

wvcojeep24

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That's what zoning laws are for though.

Millennials are the most educated generation in American history and are very much needed in a state that's aging quite rapidly.

Colorado's economy has exploded since legalization. What lazy professionals are you referring to? How are professionals using pot any different than those who have a drink after work?

I get that there are some minor issues but it's about how WV allocates finite resources. The state shouldn't be spending so much money on enforcement of an outdated law when we could be reaping some much-needed tax revenue that could be diverted to schools, promise scholarships and road construction.

Also, we cannot deny the medicinal benefits - Colorado has seen a drop in prescription drug abuse since legalization. I'd much rather have someone in pain use pot in a medicinal form than fentanyl or oxycontin.

Do you live in Colorado?
 

WVU enginEER

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That's what zoning laws are for though.

Millennials are the most educated generation in American history and are very much needed in a state that's aging quite rapidly.
Ummm, maybe so, but they are also the laziest. I see it something like this: get college degree, smoke dope until age 35, get minimum wage job to pay to have raunchy tattoos removed, get real job and find out what real work really is, at age 55 realize that retirement is something I should have been thinking about back when I was smoking dope, reality punches me in both my eyes and leaves them black and blue, swollen and bloody, blame everything on cheap parents who are now retired and should not be spending my inheritance so I can retire. Get notice from Social Security Administration that I will have to work until age 80 before getting any benefits, then the F-it stage and just smoke dope to forget about how I f-ed up.
 

wvuhskr

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Do you live in Colorado?
Does it matter when this "experiment" has been under a microscope across many media outlets for the past 4 years? It's not as if data isn't widely available. Not that it matters, but I do have family in the Colorado Springs area and have visited many times since 2012.

For instance: last year CO residents still backed legalization by a 20-point margin
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/poll-colorado-marijuana-115457

https://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/colorado/release-detail?ReleaseID=2304

And no increase in teen marijuana use has been seen:
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/20/marijuana-use-colorado-teens-marijuana-no-increase/

I didn't say there weren't problems (like property values rising rapidly) - but the problems are largely avoidable. It also hurts Colorado that they're viewed as the epicenter of the legalization movement. Once more states legalize not as many people will move to Colorado for it.
 
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Nova Mountaineer

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I don't see it as a long-term solution to our economic problems. Oh it would give a shot in the arm
for a while, but I suggest that most states will make it legal eventually and take away any short-term
advantage. In addition, it hasn't been around look-enough to gauge any negative results to be
recognized and evaluation.

It seems to me that manufacturing (some connected to the natural gas industry) would provide a
much more stable economic base. West Virginia is still within 500 miles of a large portion of the
Nation's population and with a proper business-friendly environment we could attract some
manufacturing companies.
 

wvuhskr

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(some connected to the natural gas industry)
I'm not sure the cure to WV's problems is going to be tying the economy to another finite resource. I think we're all seeing the fallout from that w/ coal. Unfortunately for WV, we won't see an uptick in drilling until the price of oil goes up again. It would provide a lot of good jobs though.
 

NJMountie

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... West Virginia to a marginal role in American society. Thats already true isn't it? Maybe its time for West Virginia to try something else? Isn't it a similar situation with ... what was it 3.0 beer? WV was the last state to up the alcohol content so many, many residents went to Ohio or PA to buy beer. Am I remembering that right? Why is WV always its own worst enemy? Isn't WV almost last in every negative category and has been for 40-50 years? Que Insanity definition?

Too much LE dollars dedicated to marijuana growers/dealers. Take the crime and back-alley transactions out of it and tax it. Its like sports betting, fans like to wager on sports ... why does the NFL, NBA, NCAA act like it doesn't exist. The pro leagues are only against sports betting because they want a piece of it.

Almost every paper in America publishes lines on games ... yet sports betting is only legal in Nevada. Same attitude with weed ... stop acting like it doesn't exist. Legalize it and then control and tax it. Its 2016!
 
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Airport

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I'm not sure the cure to WV's problems is going to be tying the economy to another finite resource. I think we're all seeing the fallout from that w/ coal. Unfortunately for WV, we won't see an uptick in drilling until the price of oil goes up again. It would provide a lot of good jobs though.

Very few things are not finite. I'm just not sure the pot industry will provide a big economic boost as long as it remains a federal crime and surrounding states decide to enforce the laws and arrest people under the influence.
 

eerlite

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No, they're not. lol I'd love to see your source on this wonderful anecdote. Your entire post reads like "get off my lawn."

More than anything his comments are ignorant and not very well thought out... Pretty lazy imo :pimp:
 

moe

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Ummm, maybe so, but they are also the laziest. I see it something like this: get college degree, smoke dope until age 35, get minimum wage job to pay to have raunchy tattoos removed, get real job and find out what real work really is, at age 55 realize that retirement is something I should have been thinking about back when I was smoking dope, reality punches me in both my eyes and leaves them black and blue, swollen and bloody, blame everything on cheap parents who are now retired and should not be spending my inheritance so I can retire. Get notice from Social Security Administration that I will have to work until age 80 before getting any benefits, then the F-it stage and just smoke dope to forget about how I f-ed up.
 

indyrockstar

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I'm actually for it in WV and in my state of NC. For WV, I am also in for building casinos at strategic areas of the state. Do what it takes to generate money.
 

moe

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I'm actually for it in WV and in my state of NC. For WV, I am also in for building casinos at strategic areas of the state. Do what it takes to generate money.
Legalize it. We already have casinos in WV.
 

wvuhskr

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I thought so but couldn't remember. Been a long time since I have lived in WV. Is (are) they top notch?

I like gambling...
The ones in Charles Town and Wheeling are decent (haven't been to the Mardi Gras one), but I feel like a lot of the gambling money comes from those small "hot spots" around the state.
 

The Elf

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Ummm, maybe so, but they are also the laziest. I see it something like this: get college degree, smoke dope until age 35, get minimum wage job to pay to have raunchy tattoos removed, get real job and find out what real work really is, at age 55 realize that retirement is something I should have been thinking about back when I was smoking dope, reality punches me in both my eyes and leaves them black and blue, swollen and bloody, blame everything on cheap parents who are now retired and should not be spending my inheritance so I can retire. Get notice from Social Security Administration that I will have to work until age 80 before getting any benefits, then the F-it stage and just smoke dope to forget about how I f-ed up.
Yes; because the baby boomers ( and every other generation) has made saving for their own retirement such a priority.
 

JohnnyBlade99

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If tobacco, alcohol and mountain dew are legal, there's no reason weed should not be legal, too
 

The Elf

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I thought so but couldn't remember. Been a long time since I have lived in WV. Is (are) they top notch?

I like gambling...
Like most gambling establishments; the ones in Wheeling and New Cumberland are filled with degenerates spending their water bill money. Actually not bad for an occasional trip; but pretty bad seeing all the regulars that are there and fairly obvious that most of them should have never walked through the door....ever; let alone for the fourth time that week.
 

indyrockstar

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Like most gambling establishments; the ones in Wheeling and New Cumberland are filled with degenerates spending their water bill money. Actually not bad for an occasional trip; but pretty bad seeing all the regulars that are there and fairly obvious that most of them should have never walked through the door....ever; let alone for the fourth time that week.

That is the one obvious issue.

Those type of people are going to find themselves doing something that they shouldn't be doing. Whether it's gambling or doing drugs or whatever...
 

wvu2007

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The casinos are good until the neighboring state builds one. The ones that are in the state now are experiencing huge revenue losses and the greyhound races take money from state tax payers.

Casinos & lottery make a few people very wealthy, despite what they try to brainwash you with they both do very little to help the economy and everyday WV citizen. I would say that they do a lot more harm.