That's not his dad. Next time just type "I'm an idiot" and save us all some time.I don't believe that number tbh. The HL has always been weirdly anti UK sports thanks in large part to On3's Joe Tipons dad Jerry.
Seems like a bargain. Just please done ask me to chip in.
I think it's based on the notion that the money went somewhere and the educated guess is in the players pockets.I don't know how much anyone on here makes and they don't know my income either....For the same reasons, I don't trust ANY report on NIL. There is not a public list of your, mine nor their incomes. It's just that simple. These are not government monies and so, they are PRIVATE, just like yours and mine. ANY leaked numbers should be investigated and the leaker be fired if not prosecuted. To come to any singular number without knowing individual contract terms, means it came from someone within the athletic department...IF they even know!! It's private, so why do even they have that info? Never trust an agent with or for this kinda info either. I believe them to have fiduciary responsibilities to each client but clearly, if leaked...they are crooked and untrustworthy. Again, at the least, they should be investigated and barred from agency representation...if not prosecuted. Still not sure how any agent would have that info at all unless he represents the whole or vast majority of the team's players. It just doesn't add up, to me.
Again, this is guessing...I think it's based on the notion that the money went somewhere and the educated guess is in the players pockets.
The numbers floated around are for the entire roster but no one has claimed to know the breakdown per individual player.
Still a huge number, even if so. Why not just make a number up and say, maybe $100 million in our budget for basketball alone? Or why give any number at all? We can be the richest, with untold wealth....or we can claim to be the poorest. I mean....if we have that kinda nil influence/money, why would we miss out on any player we want at all? Maybe Mitch is diverting all revenue sharing nil earmarked money away from Stoops, but if so, all other sports too.Again, this is guessing...
No one knows real number
My guess is between 15-20M
Sorry I hurt your fellings baby boy. Tell Jerry I said hello.That's not his dad. Next time just type "I'm an idiot" and save us all some time.
I bet you also think Shannon Sharpe was advising his son Shaedon.
Contract? At least one involving UK? Now that’s some funny stuff right there. There is no contract except maybe with the payee. Nothing with UK. These are not corporate employer relationships. They are at best inducements to participate. I’ll stop short of comparing them to bribery but it’s close.I don't know how much anyone on here makes and they don't know my income either....For the same reasons, I don't trust ANY report on NIL. There is not a public list of your, mine nor their incomes. It's just that simple. These are not government monies and so, they are PRIVATE, just like yours and mine. ANY leaked numbers should be investigated and the leaker be fired if not prosecuted. To come to any singular number without knowing individual contract terms, means it came from someone within the athletic department...IF they even know!! It's private, so why do even they have that info? Never trust an agent with or for this kinda info either. I believe them to have fiduciary responsibilities to each client but clearly, if leaked...they are crooked and untrustworthy. Again, at the least, they should be investigated and barred from agency representation...if not prosecuted. Still not sure how any agent would have that info at all unless he represents the whole or vast majority of the team's players. It just doesn't add up, to me.
Good pointI hope for a salary cap, I want guys to get paid but not have that be the primary reason they pick a school.
Yes contract, be it verbal or otherwise...but I don't think anyone is writing big checks for NIL without knowing the player at least signs a commitment to play where they paid them to play. Nike, same way, but they send bucks to many different schools. I'd bet they have something in writing to that effect, though. So yeah...contracts.Contract? At least one involving UK? Now that’s some funny stuff right there. There is no contract except maybe with the payee. Nothing with UK. These are not corporate employer relationships. They are at best inducements to participate. I’ll stop short of comparing them to bribery but it’s close.
As far as a dependable compensation record? I wouldn’t even think the IRS has one in this case.
in a fantasy world the NCAA will take back some control, perhaps baseline contractual protections for all parties. Some manner of public disclosure. Several other areas need attention.
Whether 22 bucks or 22 million, there is nothing of substance here except a bunch of money in kids hands.
Did you have the choice to walk away at any time? If so, it was your choice to work there, for whatever reason. Granted, they were/are some of the better paying jobs for many people but it wasn't that you were forced to....Right?I really don't want to know or even care, but I would much rather see the players get the money, then schools or some big shot working for the school. I always said the pro sports are one of the few jobs, that I know, that get a fare deal. I worked in as a underground coal miner for 35 years, and should have died more then once, and just wish we got a percentage of what we made our company. So I am real happy for any one that does, for company or school.
Did you have the choice to walk away at any time? If so, it was your choice to work there, for whatever reason. Granted, they were/are some of the better paying jobs for many people but it wasn't that you were forced to....Right?
Foreseeably at least, a common employment type of arrangement might be the best solution for both sides of NIL. They should get a negotiated but hourly/weekly salary that can increase as agreed up but also, either party can walk away, too. Like most any job! Most every job in the world is performance based and this one should be as well. You are expected to earn YOUR AGREED UPON PAY! If ya don't, they should be able to fire them. Same for the other way around. But if there's a contract, it must stipulate these things. Isn't Ky a Right to Work state?Seems to me, 18 year old student athletes are being given different legal rights than an 18 year old non-student athlete. But granted...if it's in writing...
I don’t either. I mean I hope we have the resources to go that large. I just can’t imagine after the starting five that the rest of the team cost 13 million dollars more.I don't believe that number tbh. The HL has always been weirdly anti UK sports thanks in large part to On3's Joe Tipons dad Jerry.
Don't buy that number. Not for a minute.im the biggest pope fan there is, but yikes man, 22m should get you the dream team
Preseaon rankings don't mean $%@#So let’s say our roster did cost around $20 million. Do we feel like our team was put together well enough to justify the cost? If we’re out spending most programs by two to one margin, shouldn’t we be the number one preseason team in America?
okay, but if it is true then thats not good at all, theres no excuse for it, and i know freshman arent that important anymore but how do u spend 22 mil and not even get one five starDon't buy that number. Not for a minute.
okay, but if it is true then thats not good at all, theres no excuse for it, and i know freshman arent that important anymore but how do u spend 22 mil and not even get one five star
i j get frustrated with the part of the fanbase that doesnt see the red flag in thatAh, yes. You can tell UK basketball is back when this is what we're bitching about.
Pack it up guys, season's over!
i j get frustrated with the part of the fanbase that doesnt see the red flag in that
What part of my body are my "fellings". That's a new word for me.Sorry I hurt your fellings baby boy. Tell Jerry I said hello.
cals roster currently is competitive, and prob spent a quarter of what we didYou are ASSUMING that number is even accurate.
So you think Pope had more time and did a worse job building a roster? Wanna go back to Cal?
cals roster currently is competitive, and prob spent a quarter of what we did
if you truly are satisfied with the roster im jealous of you
im a kentucky fan broskiAh, an Arky fan. Goodbye non-ball knowing Arky fan.
im a kentucky fan broski
ok well ill leave it at this, IF we spent 22 mil and this is our roster thats just sad.Riiiight. And your first few posts here taking shots at our roster- which are all unfounded by the way since you've seen jack diddly of it play.
Yeah....having JQ a 5 star and a Top 5 potential draft pick is just sad.ok well ill leave it at this, IF we spent 22 mil and this is our roster thats just sad.
nope. Not for NIL between the player and the school. The NIL sweepstakes is between the payer and player. The school is not a party to that. In fact, it’s against the “rules”. Just ask Mempiss and Fed Ex about that one. They are not paid to play basketball.Yes contract, be it verbal or otherwise...but I don't think anyone is writing big checks for NIL without knowing the player at least signs a commitment to play where they paid them to play. Nike, same way, but they send bucks to many different schools. I'd bet they have something in writing to that effect, though. So yeah...contracts.
I personally think you are on to something. Stop NIL completely as an unadministered sweepstakes. Call it a damn salary payable through the university with binding language. This is much like a coaches salary is paid today. Any NIL contribution must leverage the school and be controlled by whatever language the NCAA and school deem appropriate. What we have is a judicially legislated disaster.Did you have the choice to walk away at any time? If so, it was your choice to work there, for whatever reason. Granted, they were/are some of the better paying jobs for many people but it wasn't that you were forced to....Right?
Foreseeably at least, a common employment type of arrangement might be the best solution for both sides of NIL. They should get a negotiated but hourly/weekly salary that can increase as agreed up but also, either party can walk away, too. Like most any job! Most every job in the world is performance based and this one should be as well. You are expected to earn YOUR AGREED UPON PAY! If ya don't, they should be able to fire them. Same for the other way around. But if there's a contract, it must stipulate these things. Isn't Ky a Right to Work state?Seems to me, 18 year old student athletes are being given different legal rights than an 18 year old non-student athlete. But granted...if it's in writing...
I really don't think we will ever know the exact amount that is paid to the players.