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Nittering Nabob

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Irish Herb will probably rebut in the next few days.

Kudos to you.👍 This thread will certainly elicit responses from the interlopers.
 

PSU Soupy 615

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PSU Sailing Team has never acheived at a level expected with such strong high school sailing throughout all of Pennsylvania. Not to mention the lack of focus that this Athletic Department puts into Artistic Swimming........
 
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Midnighter

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Quick aside - at our kids school (private in VA) 20% of the graduating class is playing athletics in college (not sure how many are getting scholarships and most are not ‘big time’ schools though there are a few) - ranges from basketball, soccer, lacrosse, golf, and football - any idea what the norm is? This seems high to me. Again - lots of Ivy League and liberal arts schools but some big ones (USC, Duke, FSU).
 
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Bison13

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Quick aside - at our kids school (private in VA) 20% of the graduating class is playing athletics in college (not sure how many are getting scholarships and most are not ‘big time’ schools though there are a few) - ranges from basketball, soccer, lacrosse, golf, and football - any idea what the norm is? This seems high to me. Again - lots of Ivy League and liberal arts schools but some big ones (USC, Duke, FSU).
I believe the national percentage for any high school student to play any sport at any level of college is 7%. Higher percentage in some sports and genders than others but overall, I believe that’s the number.

That also counts for tons of kids who are brought in by division three schools to be roster fillers, and who help keep enrollment up. Definitely quite a few schools in the mid Atlantic, where their division three football team coaches are asked to bring in at least 50 freshman a year just to keep enrollment numbers high.
 
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Midnighter

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I believe the national percentage for any high school student to play any sport at any level of college is 7%. Higher percentage in some sports and genders than others but overall, I believe that’s the number.

That also counts for tons of kids who are brought in by division three schools to be roster fillers, and who help keep enrollment up. Definitely quite a few schools in the mid Atlantic, where their division three football team coaches are asked to bring in at least 50 freshman a year just to keep enrollment numbers high.

Ok - this is a graduating class of about 115 with more lacrosse and soccer than football/basketball. Thanks!
 

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Artistic swimming (11), Sailing (10), Rowing, (12), Mens water polo (12) and Womens water polo (10) account for 55, which have very small pools of schools to compete with for a championship. Tennis and swimming have been/are powerhouse programs for them.
Its probably like that for most everyone. What happens if you take Fencing, Womens Volleyball and Wrestling away from PSU. More than cuts PSU in half.
 
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Bison13

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Ok - this is a graduating class of about 115 with more lacrosse and soccer than football/basketball. Thanks!
Yeah, could be a really good group or it could be that a lot of the smaller liberal arts division three schools see signs from private school parents who want to wear their kids college sports team gear around and ask a lot of those kids too be on the team because they know mom and dad will foot the Bill
 
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Bison13

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Its probably like that for most everyone. What happens if you take Fencing, Womens Volleyball and Wrestling away from PSU. More than cuts PSU in half.
I mean, everybody can make their case, depending on the sport, just showing that they have a significant amount in sports with even lower total participation rates than the ones you claimed Penn State has.
 
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O$U only seems to care about Football and sometimes Basketball. Tough to make that list on 2 sports.

duhO$U doesn't "care" about wrestling??? - as a for instance - I think what you meant to say is that insecure jock-sniffing duhO$U douche fanboys who absurdly view their own self-worth (and lame-o loudmouths) in the success of their win regardless of cost, or means, cheating prollegiate football team routinely use this lame azz rationalization to defend duhO$U's lame Athletic Department which generates very little overall success at the National level across its programs relative to the massive sums spent by the Athletic Department.

By the way, duhO$U's wrestling program has had more success on the National level than their basketball program ever has - and when their wrestling team did win their lone National Championship in 2015, we were all told about how duhO$U was going to dominate b1g wrestling and was the new "dynasty" in the b1g due to their Ohio wrestling recruiting base... and Ohio school-boy wrestling being the best in the land.... blah, blah, blah (when any knowledgable wrestling fan knows that Pennsylvania HS Wrestling dominates the production of Collegiate AAs with no other State even remotely close - Ohio is in a race with NJ and NY high-school wrestling for 2nd best, but none of them are even remotely in the same universe as Pennsy for producing wrestlers) - but that doesn't prevent these lame a-holes from endlessly blathering about how great duhO$U and A-hi-a wrestling is.... did it?
 

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Wrestling isn’t exactly a minor sport. More like a mid major.
Same with Women's volleyball or actually, I would argue that women's VB would be #3 for womens sports; BB, softball then VB. Much tougher to win a natty in WVB than in any of the sports I mentioned above.

Wrestling is either 4th or 5th for the mens sports. FB, BB, Baseball then either WR or LAX.
 
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I mean, everybody can make their case, depending on the sport, just showing that they have a significant amount in sports with even lower total participation rates than the ones you claimed Penn State has.
This was being discussed on a radio program a few years ago and they were saying those old PAC 12 schools had so many more sports than other universities which is why their football programs were lagging because so much of the money went to all these other sports that no one else has or cares about.
 
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