Palmquist
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Absolutely, though we would have been weaker on D. Think he still needed more time.
Game was about to get away from us and him hitting his 3s helped us be back in the game.
Not sure what game you watched defensively but Caleb took Hood Schifino totally out of his game and totally shut him down. Indiana’s offense didn’t score from the field for almost 10 minutes because Hood makes all the plays , hits the 3 and sets up TJD. Caleb prevented all of that , which is why Pike couldn’t take him out as he also had 8 rebounds. , and why we were easily positioned to win the game.
But the last 3 plus minutes were brutal. First , Paul was ahead of the field but fumbles the ball and recovers and dished to Caleb for a wide open top of the key jumper that Caleb bricks. We were down 3. Then the ridiculous Charge call on Cliff when Galloway flopped where we could have tied it or gotten it to 1. Paul missing front end of 1 and 1. Then we play great defense for 26 seconds and Rece Thompson throws up an airball that TJD gets because Cliff is pushing him under the basket to get the rebound. Then Caleb makes 3 bad shot reads and doesn’t drive for the open lane or alley oops to Cliff , then they miss another shot , get a rebound , miss again and Derek let’s Galloway inside him for the rebound basket, then Paul misses another 1 and 1. Yes Caleb and Paul let us down but at least Caleb was super impactful defensively and Paul was terrible letting Kopp score 18 points .
Now Pike yanked Oscar and did not go back to Hyatt and rode Simpson but clearly a few minutes of Cam/Hyatt / Oscar / Derek substitution pattern could have been done as 1 more 3 or 1 more bucket would have had the game tied going down the stretch instead of 59-56.
Hood Schifino Last 6 games - points 7, 16, 3, 24, 6, 2 with either 3 or 4 assists each of those games
Almost all of what you wrote is spot on, but Caleb hurt the team overall and in an ideal world someone else would have gotten a few of his minutes and a few of his shots.
Pike is an awesome coach, he's not perfect and Monday morning quarterbacking is what internet message boards are for. I'll bet he watched the video and thought he should have gotten Caleb out of the game for a few minutes.
I was surprised he passed it out, it looked like he had a wide open 10 footer, he should've shot it.
Right now Palmquist is just a catch and shoot guy. Indiana saw that and and limited his open looks. Strangely our defensive concept did not allow us to do that with Kopp.
Some very surprising +/- from yesterday.
Oskar played 13 minutes and scored 9 pts, but still was -10
Caleb played 37 minutes and was a team worst -15, which means in the 3 minutes he sat out we were +9.
Indiana saw that? Palm had his best game of the season. 2nd half, he only played few mins.
team that cant shoot, we need someone who can catch and shoot.
I like the idea of having Cam and Palm on the court together.
Palm plays 4 and makes his guy come out of the paint. It gives more room for Cliff to work with.
PnR with Paul/Cliff, when help comes over, he can pass out to corner for 3s by Cam or Palm.
If Paul is not willing to take lead as he should, lets try it with Simpson at top PnR with Cliff.
+/- doesnt always tell the full story of how the guy performed in the game.
there is 5 players on the court
Agreed. I'd like to see. That too.
The problem is Pike either subs in 3 guys at once like he tried which didn't work in an attempt to steal a few minutes orrrr he needs to be constantly rotating subs in where the starting lineup isn't on the floor much at all together
It's a tough needle to thread
OMG I hate when Pike subs in 3 guys at once. I love Pike, i think he is one of the greatest coaches in NCAA. i do hate his subbing sometimes. I want to bang my head on the table from it...
Yes - because we happened to drain those three back to back 3s at the end of the first half when Caleb sat
It was not because of good defense during that stretch - rather Indiana was sloppy to close out the half so in the end - Hyatt and Oskar didn’t have to play defense because Indiana committed 2 turnovers in the backcourt - one (Race’s) was completely unforced.
They only had 2 other offensive possessions. Reneau made a layup. And the final shot of the half by Jalen Hood went halfway down. We were lucky.
I really do not believe it was the 37 minutes. Paul was doing next to nothing, not driving , my passing to Cliff , not enough PNR with Cliff , and Cam was getting ball and not beating his man, so offense forgot to pass the damn ball and way too much dribbling from everyone Paul , Caleb and Cam.
Since offense was not flowing thru Paul , Caleb tried to do too much , both dribbling too much, going 1 on 1 too much and not connecting with Cliff and not psssing for a better shot. I understand why Caleb was doing it but he made terrible decisions doing it
If Paul or Cam are more assertive, then the 37 minutes isn't as bad. If Cliff's D is a little better...
I agree there are a bunch of things and we were still right there in it until the last minute or two.
I don't think Caleb realizes how bad he is offensively and that's frustrating because he is brilliant defensively.
I'd rather see Cam go one on one than Caleb. He has sneaky moves and when they stop his penetration he can hit that fade away
Cam forcing offense > Caleb forcing offense
Cam forcing offense > Caleb forcing offense
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Exactly but I'll bet Caleb doesn't realize this.
It may sound whacky but I'll bet Caleb thinks he has to get up some shots to show NBA scouts he can score.
The problem isn't all on Caleb. Most possessions people were constantly looking to just dribble or pass laterally. No one was looking to make a play. No one was looking to penetrate. Too much standing around. Way too little ball movement. Too little off ball movement
Dean was actually surprisingly effective fronting TJD. That is his best attribute defensively. He is actually good at fronting the post
He's not a scorer. His real value to an NBA team is going to be able to lock down scorers and knock down some shots when he gets open.
Playing hero ball ain't it.
Two of the 3 shots taken at the end of the game by Caleb were horrible decisions not to kick the ball out. And 4 threes in a game are too many for him even if wide open (he should cut down to 2 max).
I'm not saying it's a logical decision by Caleb to think that way, just that I think that's what drives his thinking when he takes a bad shot and it's destructive to the team.
I also think Pike is in a tough spot because he told Caleb he'd shoot more if he came back.
In fairness - he’s erratic but not incapable of scoring. He’s scored in double digits 9 times against major conference opponents. Cliff has done that 11 times. Cam 10. Paul and Hyatt 8.
If true, that thought certainly backfired on him last night. Not impressing anybody with that offensive performance.
I guess many of us are upset because with just a little better shooting, or making some 1 and 1 foul shots or a few bad foul calls against us don’t happen, we would leave Indiana with a win.