I just got online because I've been too sick to look at this after the game. Patrick Towles is a better quarterback than Drew Barker. I've never called for a quarterback change or a coach change, so I'm not the guy cheering for the back up. Seeing them both play, Patrick is better. He might well win that game. He might not, because our receivers are weak. A bunch of sissies. But PT is better than DB. Everyone that has bitched all year for Barker, you got it.
Patrick Towles is a better quarterback than Drew Barker
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This is why there are problems in the fanbase is because of posts like this. Towles got his chance, didn't have much help but was inconsistent when he was open. When you lose, you have to try something else. Drew played in frigid and rainy weather in his first two games plus he encountered the same team problems so it's naive to say which one is better.
Cousin or former teammate? How you looked at his stats?? What was DB to do?? Top 2 backs go down and Louisville knew we couldn't run it.. Also the hands of stone receiving corp
When you lose because your receiver's suck, changing the quarterback is not the answer.
Towles has thrown 10 Ints to 1 TD over the last seven games. So if he's better than Barker, then Barker is the worst QB in any of the Power 6 conferences. Not saying that isn't the case; but if he's not better than a guy with a 1-10 TD-Int ratio, then our program is in even worse shape than anyone could possibly believe.
I agree with the OP. Towles still stinks, but he's a better QB than barker. Did you guys see how weak barker's arm is? Do you see how slow he is when he has to tuck and run? The future is not bright.
I understand but both of these guys are on the same team and neither got the help they needed.
Barker has thrown picks against alot shittier teams than Barker has. I'm just talking about overall. Quit trying to stretch stats to say either of them or good. Today, against a bad team, Drew sucked. Pat was good then threw a pick. They were both obviously unsuccessful, but, Pat looked better. Call me stupid, but if I have to pick someone to run my team, I pick Pat.
You change QB's when your QB has as many TD's as INT's. 24 to be exact. Kinda makes one wish Maxwell Smith never transfered
But what you do is you insert Towles starting the 4th quarter, give UL a dose of their own medicine, because Towles is a better running QB.
So you got to watch Towles today when the UL defense was playing prevent, see him get a few yards and throw an INT and you want to declare him the better QB? LOL! Here's the real joke. Neither QB is the answer to our sordid problems.
tom brady would not have won with the 2nd half pass protection we got. THis is a stupid argument.
You're stupid... Towles was passing against a soft, prevent defense.... Neither QB was going to win this game for us. We have so many glaring issues, and Stoops has his hands full to correct them. Depressing to know he has to do this in Year 4.
When will you people get it? The TEAM sucks. It doesn't matter which one is QB.
Once the decision was made that we were going to be primarily a running team I thought we should have gone to PT as he is a much better runner than Drew. Regardless, hopefully those who were saying that the receivers liked Drew more than Pat and were purposely dogging it, dropping passes will admit that was all hogwash. Our receiving corp is maddening as they will make the spectacular catch and drop the routine balls.
This has been a disappointing season in that it there were so many coulda-shoulda-woulda moments and games.
Barker played well enough in the first quarter when he had a running game. After Boom went out (and Jo Jo too) Kentucky was one dimensional and it was too much for him.
PT has played and played well when he alone was the running game. Get in his head this off season and solve this 6'5 enigma!!!! He has all the tools!!
Yes, but even so, neither of these QBs are particularly skillful - not to the extent to develop into a player to take snaps in the SEC, much less against Louisville late in November in a 2nd start, or after getting beat up for 2 months in the SEC, and not under the given quality of leadership as you've alluded. Relaaxx, indeed. They thought that at least one of them, particularly one of them, who was going to be That Guy. So much so they took only a pedestrian look at Elijah Sindelar, who was unquestionably a better high school QB than either Barker or Towels. So he left the state. Now it's pretty obvious that Louisville's backups at QB are better. Undoubtedly the best college QB in state plays at Western. Who in the state doesn't have better QBs? Would that list be shorter?
Last question: how many times did we throw to a receiver out of the backfield this year? Disgusting.
Same old argument-IMHO it's not the QB's faults-both were highly thought of coming out of HS and Barker was an Army AA-wanted by Spurrier-they both have their attributes as well as their downfalls-now lets look at the common denominator which IMHO is the problem-It's on the sidelines and doesn't have a uniform-now go figure :chairshot:
Well boo-hoo for Barker. Towles played some pretty tough teams. Barker was one big bust. Towles will probably be the starter next season. Ryan Timmons is still one of the best WR on the team. If Dorian Baker can't catch the ball sit him. How many times did Barker throw to Baker yesterday, obviously his favorite target (at least the only one he could see) who could not catch a beach ball. I predict a big senior year for Timmons, if he is enough of a glutton for punishment to stay with the program.
Barker showed some promise early. Had a good first half. Injuries to our top 2 RBs KILLED us.
Second half, Barker suffered from the same affliction as Towles: holding the ball, causing sacks. Im not sure if it was pressure of the moment, or the WR's suddenly couldnt get open, or the lack of a running game. Im guessing it was pressure of the moment, because he threw alot of errant passes when he got rid of the ball.
Combine that with Horton's continued fumble problems (why is he even seeing the field at this point) and the OL getting flagged on any play that produced yardage; and it spells disaster.
We all knew Barker wasnt ready. He just wasnt. What we need is for Towles to work on the cerebral part of the game and come back to claim the position and be a high draft pick. Because right now, I dont know what we should do with the QB situation. If someone put a gun to my head, id probably say Towles but only if you run a true spread option. Otherwise Barker.
Sorry but you lose all credibility when you post something like that.
Second half, Barker suffered from the same affliction as Towles: holding the ball, causing sacks. Im not sure if it was pressure of the moment, or the WR's suddenly couldnt get open, or the lack of a running game. Im guessing it was pressure of the moment, because he threw alot of errant passes when he got rid of the ball.
Combine that with Horton's continued fumble problems (why is he even seeing the field at this point) and the OL getting flagged on any play that produced yardage; and it spells disaster.
We all knew Barker wasnt ready. He just wasnt. What we need is for Towles to work on the cerebral part of the game and come back to claim the position and be a high draft pick. Because right now, I dont know what we should do with the QB situation. If someone put a gun to my head, id probably say Towles but only if you run a true spread option. Otherwise Barker.
Sorry but you lose all credibility when you post something like that.
It's really not that hard to understand now why Barker should have been getting snaps all season long. Passing judgement on Barker when he is brought in with little experience to salvage a season is pretty darn myopic. What we saw at the end of this season is EXACTLY why I was so in favor of giving him snaps early in the year. Other than that I think the magnifying glass should be on Dawson.
Eh. Patrick Towles was so bad in his 2nd year in the program that he couldn't beat out Max Smith or Jalen Whitlow. I remember the BW game that year and PT looked awful.
Is PT better RIGHT NOW than DB? Probably. But at the same time in their careers, DB is leaps and bounds ahead of where PT was.
Is PT better RIGHT NOW than DB? Probably. But at the same time in their careers, DB is leaps and bounds ahead of where PT was.
Towles is a much more talented QB than Barker. Towles still has a good shot at making money in the NFL. Barker has almost no chance at bout 6'2, average arm strength, 4.9ish speed, and a suspect disposition. I bet Petrino would like to have Towles. We will really suck next year without PT
And Towles career stats make you believe what you just posted I bet. 24 INT's and 24 TD's isn't SEC caliber either, so who is blind now?