Patrick Towles
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He wouldn't have played at WKU. Are you forgetting they beat us 2 yrs in a row and if we played them now it would be 50/50 it would be three yrs.
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Yes, I would agree that he has been very unlucky, so far, seems to be moving the ball pretty well right now, just threw a "dart" according to the announcer. That also said earlier that the fumble was like a handoff but then corrected it to say he was hit.
Very nice pass to the ten.
Towles just showed how stupid Dawson was for not letting him run the ball last year, his talent isn't limited to his arm. TD.
Yes, I would agree that he has been very unlucky, so far, seems to be moving the ball pretty well right now, just threw a "dart" according to the announcer. That also said earlier that the fumble was like a handoff but then corrected it to say he was hit.
Very nice pass to the ten.
Towles just showed how stupid Dawson was for not letting him run the ball last year, his talent isn't limited to his arm. TD.
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Towles is having a great half. He just ran in the go ahead TD. If BC had a decent kicker they would be up 2 scores right now. H
He is behind every QB who was considered at least a good passing QB in the modern UK passing era. The people he is ahead of were generally not that good of a passer, played in a different era, not the starter for 2.5 years, or some combination.
Your chronology sounds right. At the beginning, Neal Brown was a concession to powerful people who wanted the air raid back. As soon as possible, Stoops wanted Gran. When Gran wasn't available for 2015, Stoops hired Shannon Dawson at the recommendation of his brothers. Obviously the Dawson hire was a mistake. The other poster was asking for sources. LOL! Stoops has revealed his candid thoughts about Dawson and Gran in multiple interviews. If that isn't good enough, I doubt Wikileaks is going to publicize hacks from Stoops' emails. But a lot of this stuff has become obvious.
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No reason to hate on him. Also no reason to slurp over this performance like it is some great all time redemption game for PT.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/football-2/notes-quotes-and-audio-from-mark-stoops-on-ksr/
there's even audio there that you can listen to and hear the words for yourself coming out of his mouth.
I don't know how you define modern UK passing era, but the list speaks for itself. If you are trying to trivialize being the #6 career passer in Kentucky football history, that doesn't work. Let's be fair. Towles passed for all those yards while playing behind 2 of the worst offensive lines I can remember at Kentucky, and with some of the worst receivers. He took a beating. In 2 seasons as Kentucky's starting quarterback, he played for 2 different offensive coordinators. Teaching of fundamentals was not adequate so he went out on his own and worked overtime with George Whitfield and Donny Walker. And he passed for all those yards in only 21 starts, which neutralizes 1 of your counterpoints.
You can take the boy out of Kentucky football ... but you can't take the Kentucky football out of the boy.
mediocre qbs and teams get to bowl games...i'll take that...
hell some mediocre qbs even get drafted...
Have heard BC's D is supposed to be good but they've flopped the 4th quarter of this game. After BC went up they gave up 2 scoring drives including allowing a 4th and 19 conversion. The BC O put them in a position to win but their D couldn't hold it.
Because the passing game hasn't always been as popular as it is today. I would bet he is pretty high on the list for passing attempts as well.
Towles was never the guy who was going to turn KY Football around. Appreciate his efforts at UK, but it was time to go a different direction and see what happens.
First game in another country, vs a conference opponent...
BC showed some good things, PT showed some glimpses...obviously a lot to work on...but if I'm an eagle fan i'm feeling good...
I hope it works out for PT.
You can say a lot of things about PT's career here, the coaches and staffs he played for, the players he played with, and how things ended.
There is one unarguable thing, he is a kentucky boy who balled out for the blue and white in less than desirable circumstances. In 90% of the games he played here he had the lesser team and coaching staff.
He may have had his shortcomings, but he was still one of the more talented and physically gifted athletes on the team.
Scrubs don't start for an SEC team and an ACC team, even if it's UK and Boston College.
Say want you want but he was obviously our best option for a couple seasons, and he is BC's best option now.
BC showed some good things, PT showed some glimpses...obviously a lot to work on...but if I'm an eagle fan i'm feeling good...
I hope it works out for PT.
You can say a lot of things about PT's career here, the coaches and staffs he played for, the players he played with, and how things ended.
There is one unarguable thing, he is a kentucky boy who balled out for the blue and white in less than desirable circumstances. In 90% of the games he played here he had the lesser team and coaching staff.
He may have had his shortcomings, but he was still one of the more talented and physically gifted athletes on the team.
Scrubs don't start for an SEC team and an ACC team, even if it's UK and Boston College.
Say want you want but he was obviously our best option for a couple seasons, and he is BC's best option now.
Towles tried hard but he just wasn't productive enough to play at a high level in the SEC. Whatever the reason, he just wasn't. He may be the #6 passer for yards in UK history but I bet he's higher on that list for ints. As for back-breaking, game-changing, head-scratching ints? I'd bet he's #1, unfortunately.
I wish him the best but I would not be very optimistic about our bowl chances if he were starting this year. As an experienced backup, he'd make me feel a little better.
I wish him the best but I would not be very optimistic about our bowl chances if he were starting this year. As an experienced backup, he'd make me feel a little better.
Not sure anyone has.... Just said I ain't going to hate on him. Overall, he played well on the pass plays called. Nobody taking that out of context.
Tebow won the Heisman his sophomore year. Won the national championship his junior year. His senior year is when Addazio took over. And that was Tebows worst season.
THIS ^^^. At least the part about a QB coach.
Far and away, my BIGGEST criticism of the Stoop's era is/has been the collective handling and coaching of the QB position. It was ineffective and inadequate from the time Stoops and Brown set foot on campus until (hopefully) Gran and Hinshaw arrived on campus. Heck, IIRC, didn't Towles actually have to travel to a private camp to get some dedicated QB coaching?
FWIW, I initially "praised" Dawson for not wanting to run the QB as much as Brown did in 2014. I appreciate the zone read offense but I still believe the RBs should get the bulk of the carries.
However, in hindsight, it is painfully obvious Towles should have been allowed to run more than what he did last year. While not a true "dual threat guy" he has enough speed to be effective on the outside zone read play and physical enough to run it on the inside zone read play.
Peace
I have a sneaking suspicion you wont hear from Andre. It is just a hunch though.
Same player. Just an offense more suited to his talents. Slower paced, play action/high protection/few receiver pass plays. Also allows him to pick up the occasional first down with his legs.
He still isn't great by any means. Although immense physical talent, the game just seems too fast for him. He's a perfect fit there and will do as well as he can.
He still isn't great by any means. Although immense physical talent, the game just seems too fast for him. He's a perfect fit there and will do as well as he can.
Here is Kentucky's top 10 career adding list.
Jared Lorenzen
Andre Woodson
Tim Couch
Mike Hartline
Bill Ransdell
Patrick Towles
Rick Norton
Babe Parilli
Randy Jenkins
Pookie Jones
If I am counting correctly, 7 or 8 of these other quarterbacks had more career starts than Towles. Towles played behind some of the worst offensive lines and took more sacks per year than these other guys. Babe Parilli was 1 of the greatest quarterbacks of his era, and had more starts than Towles. Rick Norton was an all SEC quarterback, a 3 year starter, and a 1st round draft choice. People can say whatever they want, but Towles does not deserve all these contrived criticisms. I'm not saying he was the greatest quarterback in history. LOL! The facts are what they are, and speak for themselves.
Play calling fit his game. Take the game out of his hands and keep it on the ground. That kind of passing production would put us (poor defense) back at 5 games.
Nothing against him but UK and the SEC was not the spot for him. Effort was always there.
An interception, fumble/int, some poor decisions and a loss; in a very close contest, does not equal a good game. You have been watered down by our less than, mediocrity.
I Hope he; and us can turn our fortunes around.
He gave his team a 4th quarter lead, their D gave up 2 late scores including a converted 4th and 19 that lead to the winning TD. That's not on Towles. His overall play was ordinary but he didn't lose that game.