Patrick Towles

HedleyLamarr

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Tebow won the Heisman his sophomore year. Won the national championship his junior year. His senior year is when Addazio took over. And that was Tebows worst season.
Tebow was a freshman in 2006, won the Heisman in 2007, and rings in 2006 and 2008. Addazio was at Florida from 2005 to 2010.
 

un4getables

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I need a link or source where stoops says gran has always been the first choice. I've seen nothing to indicate that. He hired Dawson and he is clueless for it. He had his eyes set on Dawson and he got what he wanted. Someone who had never called plays at the D-1 level let alone a major conference before. He wanted someone just like him in a spot like he was in, both over one another's head. Stoops was like I need more inexperienced coaches around me so I can be the smartest one in the room!

He wanted him when he hired Brown but Brown had kentucky ties and I believe was suggested he hire Brown so he never approached Gran and then he did talk to Gran a second time but Gran said he wasn't ready to leave Cincy so he hired Dawson after the OC from ECU was waiting for a better offer which he got from OU. It is out there I don't have time to do your research for you because you seem to always want negativity when it comes to Stoops since it fits your agenda. Go Cats.
 

ukdesi

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Passing yardage is not a great indicator of performance anyway. Modern passing era at UK is probably defined as post Bill Curry, and he is middle the road on that list. See context below.His QB rating was very average last season and independent reviews of Towles rated him as a mid-low tier D1 QB. If he was better than that he probably would have been somewhere other than Boston College, which had the worst offense in D1 last year. In this thread no one has bashed Towles but some have said he just wasn't a good QB.The evidence above backs that up....he was and is an average Division 1 quaterback, not a good D1 QB or a top half SEC quarterback.

This doesn't mean he doesn't have pro potential or that he can't become a good D1 QB. Hartline probably became a good D1 QB in his senior year. Towles had a higher passing rating today than he did at any game at UK last season. BC fans had the same complaints we had last season in the first half of that game.....throws high and wide, throws 100 mph, doesn't make reads, not a quick decision maker.....etc etc.....but in the third quarter he showed glimpses of greatness, and almost led his team to victory.
Similar inconsistency to what we saw at UK.



When did the pass finally overtake the run in college football? 1981 was the point of no return. That year, FBS (I-A) teams averaged 169.4 rushing ypg and 164.7 passing ypg. It was the last time the average FBS team gained more yards on the ground than through the air. The chart below tracks the yearly progression of the NCAA average rushing and passing yards per game since 1972.

Not apples to apples to compare prior generations of football in passing yardage. Seperation between rushing/passing yardage in college football really started to divide in 1988.
https://infogr.am/The-Offensive-Evolution-of-College-Football
 
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catfanjd

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The coach just said he'd been doing a great job managing the game in first half. Even with 2 TO's. Very low standards at BC I see. Even lower than ours!!! And our fans last season seriously thought he was a capable QB then entire season even when it was beyond obvious that he needed to get benched by game 6 or 7. Everyone here was still defending stoops decision to play him game after game fumble after fumble, INT after INT. missed open WR after missed open WR. I don't see a single positive he brings to the game. Never have. Yet everyone here last season said they saw something. But I feel like the whole fanbase was just blind.

I like the kid and wish him well but he takes too long to throw the ball. Watch any other successful QB in the SEC and the good ones get it out very quickly. PT never had that. I think Barker has a quick release but he just didn't have the right footwork last year. We will know in a few hours but I think BBN is going to be very surprised at 2016 version of Barker. I think you will also be amazed at how good our OL looks with a quick release QB. We will see.
 

Ineverplayedthegame

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In certain relationships of all shapes and sizes, a change of scenery is in order.
Hope it works for him.
Hope it works for us.
 

vhcat70

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I thought he looked good, not great. Certainly the playing calling suits his talents better than Dawson's did between the runs & throws over the middle. One early INT that wasn't a pathetic throw in poor weather. One hit from behind that caused a fumble - happens to Heisman winners. What else is there to rag on?
 

Blueaz

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He gave his team a 4th quarter lead, their D gave up 2 late scores including a converted 4th and 19 that lead to the winning TD. That's not on Towles. His overall play was ordinary but he didn't lose that game.
Where in my post did I say he lost the game?
Where?
You made a Grand Canyon leap, from my opposing that he had a good game; to assuming I was blaming him for the loss.
 

Mr Schwump

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Where in my post did I say he lost the game?
Where?
You made a Grand Canyon leap, from my opposing that he had a good game; to assuming I was blaming him for the loss.

I don't know what the eff you're talking about. Never EVER said you said Towles lost the game. Good god man, sober up before kickoff.
 

Blueaz

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I don't know what the eff you're talking about. Never EVER said you said Towles lost the game. Good god man, sober up before kickoff.
You need to reread your post that you used my post in quote.
And you you need to lighten the **** up.
Good gawd if Simone disagreed with your highness
Maybe you should have a shot or two
 

Mr Schwump

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You need to reread your post that you used my post in quote.
And you you need to lighten the **** up.
Good gawd if Simone disagreed with your highness
Maybe you should have a shot or two

I did reread, still don't know what's got your little feathers ruffled. Must be your time of the month.
 

Free_Salato_Blue

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Here is Kentucky's top 10 career adding list.

Jared Lorenzen
Andre Woodson
Tim Couch
Mike Hartline
Bill Ransdell
Patrick Towles
Rick Norton
Babe Parilli
Randy Jenkins
Pookie Jones

If I am counting correctly, 7 or 8 of these other quarterbacks had more career starts than Towles. Towles played behind some of the worst offensive lines and took more sacks per year than these other guys. Babe Parilli was 1 of the greatest quarterbacks of his era, and had more starts than Towles. Rick Norton was an all SEC quarterback, a 3 year starter, and a 1st round draft choice. People can say whatever they want, but Towles does not deserve all these contrived criticisms. I'm not saying he was the greatest quarterback in history. LOL! The facts are what they are, and speak for themselves.

That's some cherry picking stats.

...................Com/Att % Yards Y/A TD/INT Rating
UK QB-A 313 / 479 65.3 3380 7.1 26 / 13 137.1
UK QB-B 427 / 759 56.3 5099 6.7 24 / 24 116.8

Which one these is the more productive QB?

 

kentucky_wildcat_#1

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Here is Kentucky's top 10 career adding list.

Jared Lorenzen
Andre Woodson
Tim Couch
Mike Hartline
Bill Ransdell
Patrick Towles
Rick Norton
Babe Parilli
Randy Jenkins
Pookie Jones

If I am counting correctly, 7 or 8 of these other quarterbacks had more career starts than Towles. Towles played behind some of the worst offensive lines and took more sacks per year than these other guys. Babe Parilli was 1 of the greatest quarterbacks of his era, and had more starts than Towles. Rick Norton was an all SEC quarterback, a 3 year starter, and a 1st round draft choice. People can say whatever they want, but Towles does not deserve all these contrived criticisms. I'm not saying he was the greatest quarterback in history. LOL! The facts are what they are, and speak for themselves.


You can quote all the stats you want on the kid, but the truth is, the kid is just never going to become the player so many fans hyped him to someday be. He is what he is. He's a decent player and average qb. If this kid was our starting QB this year, i wouldn't even feel as good about our team as i do now. When it comes to making plays at QB to win games, the kid can not do it. If you start and hang around a few years at a school like Kentucky, no offense meant here, but we aint exactly set the football world on fire with our past great teams/players. Hartline was hated on more than Towles during his time at Kentucky and truth is, the kid is twice the talent Towles is. When you are not as loaded all over the field like the power schools, you better have a QB back there that can win you football games. Towles is not that guy and never will be. The kid will obviously put up better stats after getting out of the SEC, but will still be the same QB. I was cheering for Towles today and hope he does well, but i am not about to feel sad about the kid leaving Kentucky and playing elsewhere. We're not elite at football, but we can do better at the QB spot than Towles.
 

Blueaz

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I did reread, still don't know what's got your little feathers ruffled. Must be your time of the month.
the time of month for dickhead to respond to my posts?
Yeah, must be...
Goodbye. Go cats
 

MrLair

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Yep. Towles is a Kentucky kid. He quarterbacked important wins including Stoops' 1st SEC road win and Stoops' 1st win over a ranked team. He beat Steve Spurrier twice. Towles didn't stay for his senior year, but he still ranks #6 on University of Kentucky's career passing list. He did it last year working under the Stoops-Dawson turmoil. When Towles left, he made it clear that he is a Kentucky fan for life. Towles is throwing ropes and completing passes in the seams against GT. The TV analyst on the BC-GT broadcast just described Towles as a "tremendous physical talent who has a long way to go in the nuances of playing quarterback". What does that say about Shannon Dawson? Why did Darrin Hinshaw need to teach Drew Barker how to use his feet in the pocket? Why didn't Dawson do that? Every time Kentucky fans bash Towles, they are basically telling other quarterbacks to steer clear of Lexington. I fail to understand why Kentucky fans would speak vindictively or wish bad things for Towles. This is beneath us.

Kiss my *** u stiff. Towles sucks. So happy hes gone.
 

RealCat41

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You can quote all the stats you want on the kid, but the truth is, the kid is just never going to become the player so many fans hyped him to someday be. He is what he is. He's a decent player and average qb. If this kid was our starting QB this year, i wouldn't even feel as good about our team as i do now. When it comes to making plays at QB to win games, the kid can not do it. If you start and hang around a few years at a school like Kentucky, no offense meant here, but we aint exactly set the football world on fire with our past great teams/players. Hartline was hated on more than Towles during his time at Kentucky and truth is, the kid is twice the talent Towles is. When you are not as loaded all over the field like the power schools, you better have a QB back there that can win you football games. Towles is not that guy and never will be. The kid will obviously put up better stats after getting out of the SEC, but will still be the same QB. I was cheering for Towles today and hope he does well, but i am not about to feel sad about the kid leaving Kentucky and playing elsewhere. We're not elite at football, but we can do better at the QB spot than Towles.
Overall Patrick had a good game. I'm thinking outside SEC competition will benefit him.

Ha ha outside SEC competition isn't going to well for Barker and crew.