Pavia and other players suing the NCAA
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Because he wasn’t getting starter minutes. He had 3 sacks as the backup. You don’t rush your jack every play. All that would have changed with him becoming the starter. Chambliss who was a SR and nowhere near the athlete of Wilson had 6.5 sacks. As the starter at UGA this year he would have had at least the 9 sacks he had at Mizz if not more
Poor Kirby got mad is all it was. The coaches don’t get held accountable for job hopping or leaving after signing day and portal closing. Why should players be loyal if the coaches aren’t? He bettered his situation. You can’t blame him. Any normal working person would do the same.
So it's ok for kids just to sign a contract get his money and ignore his obligation and transfer to another school a week later? As to the stockpiling players, shouldn't the kid have known the depth chart, UGA did ok without him,. Kids deserve to be compensated, but you can't be under contract with 2 teams and expect no consequences. Kirby wasn't successful because he was shady, he has been successful because he was one of the hardest workers in college football.
What did Wilson do at Missouri, besides steal 390k from UGA? I saw Missouri lose Virgina last in a bowl game.
What has Kirby done that is super shady?
You're delusional lol.......notice the teams that are CFP...... Bama, UGA....same teams dominate
It's call a buyout like most coaches have. If a coach quits and moves on before his contract expires, he owes the school buyout money, if he has that in his contract.
Kids want to get paid but they don't want to follow the contract rules.
I'm delusional? Is that why Saban retired? lol If he was still going to dominate, he would have. He left because he lost his advantage. That's a fact.
What has Bama dominated the last few years? No way would Saban replicate the same success in the NIL/portal era and a 12 team playoff.
It's a little different when you have your five stars all locked up for 3-4 years due to under the table deals unable to transfer and play immediately and the committee can just place you in a national championship game or semi-final compared to having to recruit your own roster every single year and in an expanded playoff.
He didn’t get 390. He got 30. That was the 1st month. Then he decided to leave. Uga stalled and didn’t put his name in portal and then put out stuff about him to try to make him look bad to other teams.
Also if you don’t think Kirby is dirty and shady you just blind. Look at colbie young situation and all the other constant arrests but still on team. He works hard no doubt but he’s dirty and shady as well.
Coaches don’t usually pay that. The other team does. How is a kid going to pay 390 when he only got 30 so far?
If you bothered to read the follow up on Colby Young, she recanted, charges were dropped, so what is Kirby suppose to do, kick him off because an ex girlfriend made some things up?
Haha yea we all believe she just recanted because it didn’t happen. Even the cops said she had signs of abuse. In those situations the girls usually always recant because they want the money. And yes he should’ve been kicked off. No room for that kind of stuff period. Don’t be so gullible man.
She got paid and recanted is usually how it works. I guess Chris beard didn’t choke his fiancee either since she recanted.
How many times has Kirby swapped jobs? How did he better his situation? How many kids has Missouri had drafted on the first day compared to UGA? That is the ultimate goal of most of these kids.
I knew you wouldn't believe, but she did. So you kick someone off the team when there are no charges against him. Gullible, women lie, how about you not being gullible. She was watching her free ride leave and decided to make some things up on him. He hasn't played in months, probably won't play again, but just because a scorned female made things up to get him in trouble doesnt make him a bad dude. Why is a college athlete from a rival school always guilty when our constitution says otherwise? Now if you want to get on him for getting her pregnant and dumping her, that's a different story. Bottom line is he didn't assault her, but he did dump her and she retaliated the best she could.
How was he forced to sign? Of course his ambulance chaser is going to come up with something.
Obviously UGA has no idea how to use players and the guy who had a team that embarrassed the conference in the Gator bowl does.
Well, same as the coaches. The new school should pay for it just like the coaches.
Did he transfer to Mizzou and collect a new NIL package? Of course he did. Just like coaches get new contracts at their new school. Why should it be any different from the coaches?
Didn’t he just kick off several other kids for being arrested? They weren’t good so they got booted. That’s how it goes. If u aren’t good and can’t help the team you gone immediately.
I know she recanted. Most the women do after they get paid outside the courts. The facts don’t change though. She had marks on her and the cops even said there was signs of abuse. There is zero room for a kid putting his hands on a woman especially a pregnant one. You probably condone that behavior though.
That’s what he is claiming. He signed something he wasn’t really happy with. He recanted like colbie youngs gf so have to believe him right?
If you go read the terms of the contract you will see it wasn’t even a legally binding contract and it said to be used to create a binding contract. Also even lawyers have said you can’t use liquidated damages clauses as a buy out. It has to be actual damages suffered by the party which how was uga damaged? I don’t like players signing and leaving any more than you but it’s the game they created so have to live with it. It’s been going on forever just not it’s out in the open so schools can ask for money back in public now.
Oh please…..what does even mean felt forced?
This is what is called business….and these kids wanted to get paid….tou can’t have it both ways
This now involves money and contracts…you have to give money back. Not a hard concept
I agree he should have to give back the money he received. Not the money he hasn’t received though. That’s where the problem comes in. Uga wants damages but what are the damages? By NIL standards that’s illegal
One kid, who him and his mother were attempting to evade police, in separate vehicles which included ramming police cars, blocking officers. Son actually got away and a coach took him back that town. Had his 2 younger siblings in the car with and got 2 felony endangerment charges because of speed involved, excess of 120 mph. This started because mom ran a stop sigh, got pulled over, son comes by at 100 in a 25. Cop takes after him, mother joins the chase, blocking and trying to pit the officer. It was a mess and he is no longer on the team.
UGA has scholarships Sr who are not in the 2 deep. Don't just make things up. Kirby isnt perfect, but if he was as bad as some want to think he would have a tougher time recruiting wouldn't you think? Other coaches would emphasize that.
Colby Young's ex gf wanted to get him hot water, she admitted that, she said CY didn't put the marks on her face, he said he didn't. Now if you want to get on CY for dumping his preg GF, have at it.
He had an agent, he signed it, was happy enough to take the first month's pay. He wasn't in the portal, but Missouri made contact and offer him more, and he left. He was thrilled to death until he got another offer. UK is having to buy Stoop's contract out, LSU had to buy Kelly's out. Why should Wilson not have to buy his out, after all the transfer deal is because coaches can leave at anytime, and players want the same freedom. We'll they have it, they need to suffer the same consequences.
No, not so much damages, like coaches under contract have to be bought out, they want Wilson's contract bought out. Every fan of college sports should hope we win to at least so this mess we have now down.
Yea the other team has to buy it out not the coach. And the coaches you mentioned were fired so of course the current school is on the hook for the money. If they go take another job the other school owes the money. If Kirby leaves he isn’t paying a buyout someone else is. Coaches up and leaving with zero consequences is what put the transfer portal to where it is anyway. There should be a 1 time free transfer then after that you lose a year. Don’t have to sit but you lose a year of eligibility.
Coaches are responsible for paying their buyouts. The hiring schools are not required to pay a coaches buyout. They often do as part of the agreement with the new school. If they didn't, the coach would have to pay it.
Schools are not required to pay player NIL buyouts either.
If a college athlete signs a contract why shouldn't he have to follow the rules of the contract?
That's what his lawyer is saying.
By the way, are you ok with a kid getting stiffed for a couple of months without getting paid his NIL MONEY because the contract wasn’t binding? I doubt you would be.
I wonder what this discussion would look like if this was a UK player instead of UGA.
Yea the other team has to buy it out not the coach. And the coaches you mentioned were fired so of course the current school is on the hook for the money. If they go take another job the other school owes the money. If Kirby leaves he isn’t paying a buyout someone else is. Coaches up and leaving with zero consequences is what put the transfer portal to where it is anyway. There should be a 1 time free transfer then after that you lose a year. Don’t have to sit but you lose a year of eligibility b
no coach ever pays the buyout. Like I said I’d be fine with paying back 30k but not what he hasn’t gotten. Until they actually have binding deals only through the school you can’t enforce this stuff.
It has happened at some schools and the players have refused to play. That’s on the school. It don’t hurt my feelings though. Coaches going to complain about losing ppl no matter what.
OK, let's go with Lane Kiffin then, who wasn't fired, he was under contract. LSU is having to buy out his contract. And you know that is the case. I don't know what Sumrall's deal was with Tulane, but if there was a buyout either or UF had to pay it. Players want the same freedom, they have it. So why should their freshly signed contract not have to be bought out? I am surprised any college football fan would want athletes responsible for what they sign. Of course I kind of suspect you just feel that way about other team's players. But if a UK player signs a deal for the year, collects his first month's cash, and another school calls him up and offers him2k more a month which he bolts for, would you want consequences?
Coaches up and leaving with no consequences has never been a thing. If they are fired the firing school has to pay the buyout. Lots of examples of that happening this year. If the leave for another college job the new school has to buy his contract, or the coach does. Sumrall, Golash and Kiffin all had their contracts bought out by the new schools. I still don't understand your dislike of UGA attempting to set some kind of precedent to so down having to re recruit your roster every year.
Yes I said the school he is going to should pay it not the player. That’s how it works with coaches. LSU paid lanes buyout not lane. Also it’s not like he left around the season. He left in the off season. So mizzou should’ve paid his buyout. If uga didn’t get it then that’s on them not on Wilson. Can’t wait months later to ask for it.
The coach never pays the buyout so stop with that. The coaches have zero consequences for leaving because they don’t lose a dime. Nor should the players. It should be on the team they leave for. Kiffin would be at ole Miss still if he had to fork over millions of his own money. It has nothing to do with uga. It has to do with treat the players the same. Go after the schools not the players. That’s the only way to stop the tampering and stuff as well. Hold the adults and the decision makers accountable.
Uga also violated a clause for confidentiality on a transfer according to Wilson and his attorney by telling other teams it would be 1.2 million buyout. And how is uga suing on behalf of a collective that don’t exist anymore? Also if nil can’t be pay for play how can you claim liquidated damages? This is why there needs to be no collectives and only official contracts through the school and its lawyers. No grey areas.
You are taking everything Wilson and his agent/attorney as fact. It isnt. The only facts are Wilson signed to stay at UGA another year, got his first month's NIL money. Missouri called and told him we will give you more, he left, kept the money and played for Missouri.
As for the buyout, Missouri didn't sign the deal, Wilson did. He is the one responsible for the buyout. Missouri decided they weren't going to pay it, and here we are. You defending a guy who ignoring a contract he signed. You probably believe he didn't want to sign it right? He couldn't wait to get that 30k. He is a good player, 30k will be peanuts to him soon
I’m saying it’s illegal to ask for damages when it can’t be pay for play. The language in the contract won’t hold up. And uga violated there end by lying to other teams about what his buyout was. Also I’m not saying what Wilson is saying is a fact but if you believe one side you have to believe the other without being in the room. The document he signed was also during the playoffs last year so who knows if he was pressured to sign it or not and if he had representation there. That’s only something he and uga can say.