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This isn’t anything important but I seen a video while scrolling and It was old Travis Perry throwing some shade UKs way when talking about Ole Miss “culture”.

I didn’t have a problem with him transferring but he’s talking like he is John Wall when the only reason he stepped foot on UKs floor is because of injuries. Noah got more shine than him last year and is the better player. Perry seems a little butt hurt and I hope we destroy ole miss now.

This is only sports talk. I don’t have a real problem with him or wish any bad on Perry and I’m sure he’s a cool guy at the end of the day.
 

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These are either remarks he made back in March, or a repeat of the same sentiments he was first reported as saying back then.
 
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This isn’t anything important but I seen a video while scrolling and It was old Travis Perry throwing some shade UKs way when talking about Ole Miss “culture”.

I didn’t have a problem with him transferring but he’s talking like he is John Wall when the only reason he stepped foot on UKs floor is because of injuries. Noah got more shine than him last year and is the better player. Perry seems a little butt hurt and I hope we destroy ole miss now.

This is only sports talk. I don’t have a real problem with him or wish any bad on Perry and I’m sure he’s a cool guy at the end of the day.
Where’s the video?
 

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Beard also thought Devin Askew was destined for greatness at Texas.🤦‍♀️

Beard had one fluke run at Texas Tech in 2019 and hasn’t done much since then. He’s not this great coach that he is made out to be by some. If Perry gets significant playing time, they will not be a .500 team.
 
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Beard had one fluke run at Texas Tech in 2019 and hasn’t done much since then. He’s not this great coach that he is made out to be by some. If Perry gets significant playing time, they will not be a .500 team.
That’s the way I see it too. Dude had one good season. His teams play hard. So what?

It’s like Todd Golden. One fluke run and he’s the next Rupp to some.

Beard can outbox most women though.
 

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This isn’t anything important but I seen a video while scrolling and It was old Travis Perry throwing some shade UKs way when talking about Ole Miss “culture”.

I didn’t have a problem with him transferring but he’s talking like he is John Wall when the only reason he stepped foot on UKs floor is because of injuries. Noah got more shine than him last year and is the better player. Perry seems a little butt hurt and I hope we destroy ole miss now.

This is only sports talk. I don’t have a real problem with him or wish any bad on Perry and I’m sure he’s a cool guy at the end of the day.
Link?
 

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Beard had one fluke run at Texas Tech in 2019 and hasn’t done much since then. He’s not this great coach that he is made out to be by some. If Perry gets significant playing time, they will not be a .500 team.
Whew, man that's hard to believe that's how you see it. Beard is one of the best coaches in the nation and will absolutely be a national champion, it just depends on how many at this point. Maybe not at Ole Miss, but eventually a good program is going to pick him up after his name rehabilitation and as long as he's given the resources he will win title(s). The guy is by far, without question, one of the best motivating defensive coaches in the nation. He's easily one of the best coaches in the country hands own. I don't think a single national journalist would argue that, and I don't believe coaches would argue it either. It wasn't a fluke run, he was 2 overtimes away from winning a championship at Tech, who's no powerhouse. He then turned around and was a few minutes from another final four, and probably should have had it. What we better hope is that Beard doesn't end up at Kansas because it fits and makes sense, and they would win with him. I see absolutely zero way around that.

Don't underestimate how difficult it is to win anything at Ole Miss. Been there many times and to the Tad Pad. Ole Miss basketball is a absolute joke and he is about to have them in final four conversations. He took Ole MIss to the sweet 16 which is almost, nearly, impossible. There arent many coaches who would turn Ole MIss into what it is today that fast. Really, I'd say less than a handful maybe.
 

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Whew, man that's hard to believe that's how you see it. Beard is one of the best coaches in the nation and will absolutely be a national champion, it just depends on how many at this point. Maybe not at Ole Miss, but eventually a good program is going to pick him up after his name rehabilitation and as long as he's given the resources he will win title(s). The guy is by far, without question, one of the best motivating defensive coaches in the nation. He's easily one of the best coaches in the country hands own. I don't think a single national journalist would argue that, and I don't believe coaches would argue it either. It wasn't a fluke run, he was 2 overtimes away from winning a championship at Tech, who's no powerhouse. He then turned around and was a few minutes from another final four, and probably should have had it. What we better hope is that Beard doesn't end up at Kansas because it fits and makes sense, and they would win with him. I see absolutely zero way around that.

Don't underestimate how difficult it is to win anything at Ole Miss. Been there many times and to the Tad Pad. Ole Miss basketball is a absolute joke and he is about to have them in final four conversations. He took Ole MIss to the sweet 16 which is almost, nearly, impossible. There arent many coaches who would turn Ole MIss into what it is today that fast. Really, I'd say less than a handful maybe.

He’s not the coach you are trying to make him out to be. His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse.

Do you have any analytics to back up your claim??? Take away the fluke season in 2019 and tell me what he has done to make him the coach you claim he is. I’ll hang up and wait….
 

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He’s not the coach you are trying to make him out to be. His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse.

Do you have any analytics to back up your claim??? Take away the fluke season in 2019 and tell me what he has done to make him the coach you claim he is. I’ll hang up and wait….
You must not think a lot about Coach Pope then either.
 
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You must not think a lot about Coach Pope then either.
Pope coached at Utah Valley and BYU before he came to UK. Beard has been to way better programs than either. Pope was in the BIG12 his last season at BYU and done well with unknown guys. Then last year at UK, he showed it with 5 wins against Top 10 opponents, setting a new program record. Most of those games without key players who again, were unknown players that were assembled in a couple weeks.
 

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Pope coached at Utah Valley and BYU before he came to UK. Beard has been to way better programs than either. Pope was in the BIG12 his last season at BYU and done well with unknown guys. Then last year at UK, he showed it with 5 wins against Top 10 opponents, setting a new program record. Most of those games without key players who again, were unknown players that were assembled in a couple weeks.
"His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse."

Your words.

Apply the same to Pope and it's even worse. And as you said, great coaches win at lesser schools. However, Pope has no national runner up, another E8 or any conference titles. Beard has all of that in just a couple more years of coaching. Beard has 6 tournament appearances.

Pope's win % is currently 63.7%, and his conference win % is below 60%.

Pope has 3 tournament appearances and just won his first tournament game this past season. Beard made it to the sw16 this year as well. Mark Pope also only has 2 season without double digits losses, and one of those was the covid seasons when they didn't play a full schedule. In 10 season, Pope's teams only have 2 seasons without double digits losses.

Now, I like Pope and think he'll be good here, but considering their records and backgrounds, if you think Beard is bad, it's certainly illogical to think Pope is better at this point.

Beard may not be coach k, but he is certainly one of the better coaches today.
 

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He’s not the coach you are trying to make him out to be. His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse.

Do you have any analytics to back up your claim??? Take away the fluke season in 2019 and tell me what he has done to make him the coach you claim he is. I’ll hang up and wait….

What "truly great coach" won to a level you expect, which apparently is what, I guess, not many double digit losses, a final four, title game (overtime away from a championship), followed by an elite 8, and winning seasons at nothing programs and football oriented states and universities? Who are these coaches? Because the ones I'm looking at that have accomplished that are coaches at basketball programs, or programs geared toward both and nationally recognized. There is not one single serious journalist or basketball mind that does this for a living that would say what Beard has done is a fluke. None. Because it's not.

BCG never, ever, reached close to the level of success that Beard did. You seem to be talking all over the place and not making any sense at all. Beard has not just been at football school programs, he's been at fairly bad football school programs. TT isn't jut awful but they're decently on the wrong side of average and a football school. Ole Miss is literally one of the worst basketball programs in the entire country in the power 5. He's beating Kentucky and has them already, very quickly, in the sweet 16.

You keep saying Fluke about a national title game run and expect that to be some sort of statistic? I don't understand what you're saying? Why are you asking me for analytics to back my claim when you have literally argued that the statistics that say he's a great coach aren't valid because YOU say it's not anything more than luck. I guess his outstanding results at ULAR are luck too? What about the season he was a few bounces from the final four again at a football program? Fluke? Taking a legitimate top 5 worst power 5 program in Ole Miss to the sweet 16 nearly immediately and already in conversations about taking Ole Miss to a final four? Everyone is just what? nuts? Because you saying one of those seasons is a fluke is somehow statistics and "analytics".

No offense but this is just stupid and I'm not gonna continue arguing someone who's leaving out all context, accomplishments, current success, comparative history, and going against the opinion of basketball minds far greater than yourself because you can't evaluate and don't want to believe it.

Beard is a great program away from being elevated to a level where his talent meets the opportunity. You better hope Kansas doesn't make the move because I can tell you 100% it's who their fans want. They're nuts too, right? Beard has done as good as any great coach would do. By great I mean nearly guaranteed to be a title coach in the next few decades and a real shot at multiple titles in that timeframe. If you can't see that then you can't evaluate, regardless of what you think you're seeing.
 

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"His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse."

Your words.

Apply the same to Pope and it's even worse. And as you said, great coaches win at lesser schools. However, Pope has no national runner up, another E8 or any conference titles. Beard has all of that in just a couple more years of coaching. Beard has 6 tournament appearances.

Pope's win % is currently 63.7%, and his conference win % is below 60%.

Pope has 3 tournament appearances and just won his first tournament game this past season. Beard made it to the sw16 this year as well. Mark Pope also only has 2 season without double digits losses, and one of those was the covid seasons when they didn't play a full schedule. In 10 season, Pope's teams only have 2 seasons without double digits losses.

Now, I like Pope and think he'll be good here, but considering their records and backgrounds, if you think Beard is bad, it's certainly illogical to think Pope is better at this point.

Beard may not be coach k, but he is certainly one of the better coaches today.

Yea I'm not gonna argue it again, he wants "analytics" while offering up absolutely nothing except "nuh uh, it's a fluke career! gimme stats!!" I mean truly ridiculous and I hope that's not a real thought pattern.
 
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"His losses are in double digits almost every single year besides 1-2. People use the excuse that it’s hard to win at Texas Tech but the truly great coaches won at even lesser schools. Heck, BCG won big at Texas A&M before coming to UK. Beard has ONE fluke final four and a career 68% percent winning record and if not for the record he had at Little Rock, 30-5, his career win % would be worse."

Your words.

Apply the same to Pope and it's even worse. And as you said, great coaches win at lesser schools. However, Pope has no national runner up, another E8 or any conference titles. Beard has all of that in just a couple more years of coaching. Beard has 6 tournament appearances.

Pope's win % is currently 63.7%, and his conference win % is below 60%.

Pope has 3 tournament appearances and just won his first tournament game this past season. Beard made it to the sw16 this year as well. Mark Pope also only has 2 season without double digits losses, and one of those was the covid seasons when they didn't play a full schedule. In 10 season, Pope's teams only have 2 seasons without double digits losses.

Now, I like Pope and think he'll be good here, but considering their records and backgrounds, if you think Beard is bad, it's certainly illogical to think Pope is better at this point.

Beard may not be coach k, but he is certainly one of the better coaches today.

Pope didn’t coach at Texas Tech or Texas or Ole Miss either. BYU was in the Mountain West conference until his last year there. He done well, beating Kansas and making the tournament In his first year in the BIG12. Beard has been at big programs in major conferences for years now and only one fluke run is all he’s done and that was 7 years ago.

Please tell me, outside of the one good year, what has he done to prove he’s one of the best coaches in the country currently????
 

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"All of Beards accomplishments, comparative history, and current trajectory are just flukes and big nothings! All programs are the same. Everyone can win at Ole Miss. It's a fluke!! So now that that's eliminated, tell me what he's done!!!!"

On a side note, to the rest of the thread that aren't absolute morons, it should also be stated that his career has also been interrupted during that time with his personal issues so, with context, it absolutely slowed him down and slowing him down and keeping all high profile jobs away, with a domestic case against him, he still runs into Ole Miss and has them beating Kentucky and making sweet 16's, maybe more soon.

Don't mind going at it when it's worth it, but those post are bad enough to ignore compeltely. I'm sure evaluation isn't his day job.
 

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What "truly great coach" won to a level you expect, which apparently is what, I guess, not many double digit losses, a final four, title game (overtime away from a championship), followed by an elite 8, and winning seasons at nothing programs and football oriented states and universities? Who are these coaches? Because the ones I'm looking at that have accomplished that are coaches at basketball programs, or programs geared toward both and nationally recognized. There is not one single serious journalist or basketball mind that does this for a living that would say what Beard has done is a fluke. None. Because it's not.

BCG never, ever, reached close to the level of success that Beard did. You seem to be talking all over the place and not making any sense at all. Beard has not just been at football school programs, he's been at fairly bad football school programs. TT isn't jut awful but they're decently on the wrong side of average and a football school. Ole Miss is literally one of the worst basketball programs in the entire country in the power 5. He's beating Kentucky and has them already, very quickly, in the sweet 16.

You keep saying Fluke about a national title game run and expect that to be some sort of statistic? I don't understand what you're saying? Why are you asking me for analytics to back my claim when you have literally argued that the statistics that say he's a great coach aren't valid because YOU say it's not anything more than luck. I guess his outstanding results at ULAR are luck too? What about the season he was a few bounces from the final four again at a football program? Fluke? Taking a legitimate top 5 worst power 5 program in Ole Miss to the sweet 16 nearly immediately and already in conversations about taking Ole Miss to a final four? Everyone is just what? nuts? Because you saying one of those seasons is a fluke is somehow statistics and "analytics".

No offense but this is just stupid and I'm not gonna continue arguing someone who's leaving out all context, accomplishments, current success, comparative history, and going against the opinion of basketball minds far greater than yourself because you can't evaluate and don't want to believe it.

Beard is a great program away from being elevated to a level where his talent meets the opportunity. You better hope Kansas doesn't make the move because I can tell you 100% it's who their fans want. They're nuts too, right? Beard has done as good as any great coach would do. By great I mean nearly guaranteed to be a title coach in the next few decades and a real shot at multiple titles in that timeframe. If you can't see that then you can't evaluate, regardless of what you think you're seeing.

A long response doesn’t dismiss the fact that you can’t name anything that I asked. I expected such a response from you, though.

I’ll answer your question, Mark Few, Todd Golden, Nate Oats, Bruce Pearl, Kevin Sampson, Matt Painter.

Now answer my question? Remember, a long response doesn’t make you right. 😁 Use google if you have to. 🤣
 

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Yea I'm not gonna argue it again, he wants "analytics" while offering up absolutely nothing except "nuh uh, it's a fluke career! gimme stats!!" I mean truly ridiculous and I hope that's not a real thought pattern.

Say that you’re completely clueless about college basketball without saying it, well you kinda are saying it. 🤣
 

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"All of Beards accomplishments, comparative history, and current trajectory are just flukes and big nothings! All programs are the same. Everyone can win at Ole Miss. It's a fluke!! So now that that's eliminated, tell me what he's done!!!!"

On a side note, to the rest of the thread that aren't absolute morons, it should also be stated that his career has also been interrupted during that time with his personal issues so, with context, it absolutely slowed him down and slowing him down and keeping all high profile jobs away, with a domestic case against him, he still runs into Ole Miss and has them beating Kentucky and making sweet 16's, maybe more soon.

Don't mind going at it when it's worth it, but those post are bad enough to ignore compeltely. I'm sure evaluation isn't his day job.

Trajectory 🤣🤣🤣 That one made me LOL for real. 🤣
 

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Painter lol. I hope that's a joke and I hope you have a lot more names. Btw, Pearl has not reached the level of Beard lol. Painter is at Purdue who's had lots of success under Keady, Stop. The list sucks and even if it were half *** right, you'd have to keep naming because that would put him in elite company anyway jackass. lol. Don't quote me you dont have it.
 

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Pope didn’t coach at Texas Tech or Texas or Ole Miss either. BYU was in the Mountain West conference until his last year there. He done well, beating Kansas and making the tournament In his first year in the BIG12. Beard has been at big programs in major conferences for years now and only one fluke run is all he’s done and that was 7 years ago.

Please tell me, outside of the one good year, what has he done to prove he’s one of the best coaches in the country currently????
"Truly great coaches have won at even lesser schools"
Who said that?

Also, BYU isn't exactly a chump program. In fact, they regressed during Pope's tenure and are now a ranked higher than us in pre-season polls.

Beard was a little rock 1 year, had 5 losses, won the conference title, conference tournament and an NCAA game. Pope was at UTAH Valley 4 years and BYU 5 and accomplished none of that.

He's been to an additional elite 8, won the big12 regular season title. 2x big 12 COY, AP national coach of the year, won conference and tournament titles in the sunbelt.

So, who are your current top 10 coaches that have done more?
 

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"Truly great coaches have won at even lesser schools"
Who said that?

Also, BYU isn't exactly a chump program. In fact, they regressed during Pope's tenure and are now a ranked higher than us in pre-season polls.

Beard was a little rock 1 year, had 5 losses, won the conference title, conference tournament and an NCAA game. Pope was at UTAH Valley 4 years and BYU 5 and accomplished none of that.

He's been to an additional elite 8, won the big12 regular season title. 2x big 12 COY, AP national coach of the year, won conference and tournament titles in the sunbelt.

So, who are your current top 10 coaches that have done more?

BYU was only in the BIG12 one year under Pope, they were a chump program and have invested a ton of money into basketball the last 2 years, last year and this year due to being in a major conference. The more you know! 😁

Pope has only coached in a major conference for 2 years now. Stick around small fry and you will actually learn something.
 
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Painter lol. I hope that's a joke and I hope you have a lot more names. Btw, Pearl has not reached the level of Beard lol. Painter is at Purdue who's had lots of success under Keady, Stop. The list sucks and even if it were half *** right, you'd have to keep naming because that would put him in elite company anyway jackass. lol. Don't quote me you dont have it.

Pearl has not reached the level of Beard is the most stupid thing you’ve ever said and that’s saying something coming from you. I will quote you every single time just because I know it hurts your poor little feelings. 🤣 You have the lowest basketball IQ on this forum and it’s not close. You can’t answer simple questions and keep deflecting like the moron that we all know that you are. Back to mommy’s basement you go! 🤣
 

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BYU was only in the BIG12 one year under Pope, they were a chump program and have invested a ton of money into basketball the last 2 years, last year and this year due to being in a major conference. The more you know! 😁

Pope has only coached in a major conference for 2 years now. Stick around small fry and you will actually learn something.
Right, so he had a super easy conference to win and still never did. How are you not comprehending that? Nor did he ever win one at Utah Valley.

Lol, BYU was a tournament team consecutively from like 2007 - 2015. They had former players like Fredette. They weren't that much of a chump unless you're applying revisionist history.

Also, why all the investment after Pope left?

Beard made the elite 8 in his 2nd season in a major conference, though. Made the national championship in his 3rd and won the Big 12 regular season title.

Sounds like you don't know much about either, bud.
 
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Pearl has not reached the level of Beard is the most stupid thing you’ve ever said and that’s saying something coming from you. I will quote you every single time just because I know it hurts your poor little feelings. 🤣 You have the lowest basketball IQ on this forum and it’s not close. You can’t answer simple questions and keep deflecting like the moron that we all know that you are. Back to mommy’s basement you go! 🤣
Aww, just rage baiting I see.

Welp, have fun with that.
 
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Right, so he had a super easy conference to win and still never did. How are you not comprehending that? Nor did he ever win one at Utah Valley.

Lol, BYU was a tournament team consecutively from like 2007 - 2015. They had former players like Fredette. They weren't that much of a chump unless you're applying revisionist history.

Also, why all the investment after Pope left?

Beard made the elite 8 in his 2nd season in a major conference, though. Made the national championship in his 3rd and won the Big 12 regular season title.

Sounds like you don't know much about either, bud.

Again, the investment is because they are in the BIG12 now and now are allowed to do whatever they want and not follow Mormon teachings. You really are uneducated about college basketball.. 🤣🤣🤣

Beard has been coaching since 1995 and literally has one good season to his name.
 

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Again, the investment is because they are in the BIG12 now and now are allowed to do whatever they want and not follow Mormon teachings. You really are uneducated about college basketball.. 🤣🤣🤣

Beard has been coaching since 1995 and literally has one good season to his name.
They aren't Mormon because they are in the big 12 now?

Wasn't BYU a private school with massive financial backing before, or nah?

How so? Do educate me!

You seem angered, bro. Why is that?