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Keep dreaming. UK isn't going to throw the school's reputation into the gutter for skumbags who have PROVEN they are morally bankrupt just so a portion of our idiot fanbase can have more fun at their weekly tailgate.

Every September/October this message board is a repeat of the previous year. It's just flat pathetic. UK will NEVER win big in the SEC and will never hire a loser in hopes of winning......ever.
 

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Back to the hoops board.

We're not interested in hearing a basketball bandwagon UK fan tell us we can't win in football. If that's all you got GTFO. Real UK fans, in all walks, want a successful football team. As soon as I see someone say "we can't win we never have" etc I put them immediately on ignore. You're a sorry *** "fan" who's part of the problem.

And you're on ignore. Go on and respond, I bet you do. And I won't see it. I suggest everyone so the same.
 

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Back to the hoops board.

We're not interested in hearing a basketball bandwagon UK fan tell us we can't win in football. If that's all you got GTFO. Real UK fans, in all walks, want a successful football team. As soon as I see someone say "we can't win we never have" etc I put them immediately on ignore. You're a sorry *** "fan" who's part of the problem.

And you're on ignore. Go on and respond, I bet you do. And I won't see it. I suggest everyone so the same.


Funny. I've said Stoops was stealing money from the University for 3 years and clowns like yourself say "back to the basketball board". Stoops stinks, I support the football team but support THE UNIVERSITY even more, unlike a portion of our fanbase that has no morals and could care less if our coach does. Now sit down, clown.
 

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I still get cracked up when I see that funny gif of Petrino on his motorcycle with the hot chick riding on the back.....
 

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Keep dreaming. UK isn't going to throw the school's reputation into the gutter for skumbags who have PROVEN they are morally bankrupt just so a portion of our idiot fanbase can have more fun at their weekly tailgate.

Every September/October this message board is a repeat of the previous year. It's just flat pathetic. UK will NEVER win big in the SEC and will never hire a loser in hopes of winning......ever.
As long as folks like you are around we won't that is for sure
 

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UK football will never be successful until it has a real coach. Now Petrino and Briles are real coaches. Having said that if they did come here...UK still isn't winning the SEC and probably never the SEC East. They'd win some games though, some 8-9 win seasons and make it exciting to be a UK football fan again. I agree UK will never hire either...instead we hire guys like Stoops whose CEILING was 6-6, 7-5 at best, but he can't even do that.
 

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Yep. Hiring Petrino resulted in a couple of days of bad press for uofl and now a top 10 football team . No way would I trade two days of bad press for a top 10 football team.
 

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Yep. Hiring Petrino resulted in a couple of days of bad press for uofl and now a top 10 football team . No way would I trade two days of bad press for a top 10 football team.

Keep living in dreamland. He's looked at as a scumbag all over the country. Is the press supposed to re-hash the Petrino story every day for the rest of his life?
 

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Keep dreaming. UK isn't going to throw the school's reputation into the gutter for skumbags who have PROVEN they are morally bankrupt just so a portion of our idiot fanbase can have more fun at their weekly tailgate.

Every September/October this message board is a repeat of the previous year. It's just flat pathetic. UK will NEVER win big in the SEC and will never hire a loser in hopes of winning......ever.
wake up - the school's reputation is terrible already. decades of ncaa scandals, accusations of racism, the hiring of coaches with reputations of running fast and loose with the rules. plus the keystone cops display on Saturdays. deserved or not, outside this state the schools rep is awful. rightly or wrongly.....it is.
 

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Good question since Cal has never been accused of any wrongdoing. Was that your point?
"Parrish: When Kentucky hired Tubby's replacement... they were very much of the opinion that, "We are not going to hire somebody like John Calipari. We don't have to hire somebody like John Calipari." We all know what that means. He had a vacated Final Four (UMass) and had lots of smoke around him on the way to having another vacated Final Four (Memphis)."
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/kentucky-wildcats-billy-gillispie-oral-history-021615
 
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"Parrish: When Kentucky hired Tubby's replacement... they were very much of the opinion that, "We are not going to hire somebody like John Calipari. We don't have to hire somebody like John Calipari." We all know what that means. He had a vacated Final Four (UMass) and had lots of smoke around him on the way to having another vacated Final Four (Memphis)."
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/kentucky-wildcats-billy-gillispie-oral-history-021615

He hasn't been accused by any authorative body like the NCAA and was cleared twice of all wrongdoing by the judge, jury and executioner as the NCAA hates Coach Cal so if there was smoke they would have burned him at the stake.

Now he has been accused of wrongdoing by media, rival fans, etc, but I'm not sure that is relevant. And you just quoted an outkickthecoverage article, which is a site run by a notorious UK basketball hater.
 
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Icecoldbrewdoggy

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Keep living in dreamland. He's looked at as a scumbag all over the country.
wake up - the school's reputation is terrible already. decades of ncaa scandals, accusations of racism, the hiring of coaches with reputations of running fast and loose with the rules. plus the keystone cops display on Saturdays. deserved or not, outside this state the schools rep is awful. rightly or wrongly.....it is.


Wrong, so wrong. Not one person talks about UK Football having a soiled reputation. LOL, what a JOKE.
 

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He hasn't been accused by any authorative body like the NCAA and was cleared twice of all wrongdoing by the judge, jury and executioner as the NCAA hates Coach Cal so if there was smoke they would have burned him at the stake.

Now he has been accused of wrongdoing by media, rival fans, etc, but I'm not sure that is relevant. And you just quoted an outkickthecoverage article, which is a site run by a notorious UK basketball hater.
Ohhhhhkaayyyy. Lol. It was common knowledge that umass had a vacated final four and Memphis was otw to a vacated final four. Im happy with the hire of Cal. . We took a risk. Just admit it. He had a sketchy reputation arouns college bball. This is THE REASON why we passed on him the first go around. He wanted to come and we didn't even consider him. But lets call it what it is.... a double standard.
 

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UK will NEVER win big in the SEC and will never hire a loser in hopes of winning......ever.

Back to the hoops board.

We're not interested in hearing a basketball bandwagon UK fan tell us we can't win in football. If that's all you got GTFO. Real UK fans, in all walks, want a successful football team.
He didn't say UK can't win in football, he said UK can't win big in the SEC. And that's the truth. Refuse to believe it all you want, blame coaches, the ADs, the fans, but until you face the truth, that UK's lack of football success is mostly due to factors beyond their control, you're doomed to anger and frustration
 

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He hasn't been accused by any authorative body like the NCAA and was cleared twice of all wrongdoing by the judge, jury and executioner as the NCAA hates Coach Cal so if there was smoke they would have burned him at the stake.

Now he has been accused of wrongdoing by media, rival fans, etc, but I'm not sure that is relevant. And you just quoted an outkickthecoverage article, which is a site run by a notorious UK basketball hater.

As I said in a onother thread, Cals issues were far more than those two incidences. His player discipline was really bad. He had players in trouble for hookers, drugs, inciting riots in night clubs, constant curfew issues, fights, and a scandal with a player accused of rape and other incidences. This is a basketball team, not a football team. On top of that he ignored the NCAA letter of inquiry, had two seasons stripped and two final fours stripped. As someone from the area I know and was very close to people in that situation. The Memphis media was in full mop up duty nearly year round.

I'm a huge cal advocate because I think it shows how men can redeem their name and image. UK has made it possible for Him to do those things. Cal isn't half as bad as rivals make him out to be, including UK fans who butchered him daily.

My problem is the hypocrisy. If you take that paragraph above and apply it to a football coach, there's no way some of these Petrino (or any coach with baggage) bashers can justify the position.

I wouldn't even talk about it if the moral brigade would end this stupid Indiana basketball moral nonsense like we're just too high and mighty to take a risk. It's bs. You love cal, I love cal, we both or probably agree his rep is unwarranted at this point, but it was a risk to take him. I'm sorry. It's the truth. And that's why Mitch and the bell witch were digging for weeks trying to clear him to coach. Because there were flags.

Does Petrino have more baggage? Yes. Is he capable of a turn around in the rep department? I don't know. But UK football doesn't have an image to protect. We can afford the gamble, and in basketball the gamble (albeit smaller) not only worked out, it worked out better than planned.

Again I'm not bashing Cal at all. It's just that most of us that support him stop the baggage at a few stripped seasons and it's not just the agent incident with camby or the Rose incident that flagged him, and most fans don't know this.
 
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You're joking, right? You're saying if I get out more I'll find that people at water coolers are talking about the shady UK football program? LOL!!! If we had hired Petrino, that would be the case.
heck, there's a thread right here in Lair about all the arrests on the current team and how high it is vs other teams. surely you don't also need a lesson on the long probation history of UK FB?!? geez
 

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Back to the hoops board.

We're not interested in hearing a basketball bandwagon UK fan tell us we can't win in football. If that's all you got GTFO. Real UK fans, in all walks, want a successful football team. As soon as I see someone say "we can't win we never have" etc I put them immediately on ignore. You're a sorry *** "fan" who's part of the problem.

And you're on ignore. Go on and respond, I bet you do. And I won't see it. I suggest everyone so the same.

Right on. Spot on.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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"Parrish: When Kentucky hired Tubby's replacement... they were very much of the opinion that, "We are not going to hire somebody like John Calipari. We don't have to hire somebody like John Calipari." We all know what that means. He had a vacated Final Four (UMass) and had lots of smoke around him on the way to having another vacated Final Four (Memphis)."
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/kentucky-wildcats-billy-gillispie-oral-history-021615
You're quoting Gary Parrish, congrats. Now, what was Cal ever accused of? Nope, not sarcasm. I'll wait.
 
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As I said in a onother thread, Cals issues were far more than those two incidences. His player discipline was really bad. He had players in trouble for hookers, drugs, inciting riots in night clubs, constant curfew issues, fights, and a scandal with a player accused of rape and other incidences. This is a basketball team, not a football team. On top of that he ignored the NCAA letter of inquiry, had two seasons stripped and two final fours stripped. As someone from the area I know and was very close to people in that situation. The Memphis media was in full mop up duty nearly year round.

I'm a huge cal advocate because I think it shows how men can redeem their name and image. UK has made it possible for Him to do those things. Cal isn't half as bad as rivals make him out to be, including UK fans who butchered him daily.

My problem is the hypocrisy. If you take that paragraph above and apply it to a football coach, there's no way some of these Petrino (or any coach with baggage) bashers can justify the position.

I wouldn't even talk about it if the moral brigade would end this stupid Indiana basketball moral nonsense like we're just too high and mighty to take a risk. It's bs. You love cal, I love cal, we both or probably agree his rep is unwarranted at this point, but it was a risk to take him. I'm sorry. It's the truth. And that's why Mitch and the bell witch were digging for weeks trying to clear him to coach. Because there were flags.

Does Petrino have more baggage? Yes. Is he capable of a turn around in the rep department? I don't know. But UK football doesn't have an image to protect. We can afford the gamble, and in basketball the gamble (albeit smaller) not only worked out, it worked out better than planned.

Again I'm not bashing Cal at all. It's just that most of us that support him stop the baggage at a few stripped seasons and it's not just the agent incident with camby or the Rose incident that flagged him, and most fans don't know this.
Cal ignored what letter of inquiry?
 

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Cal ignored what letter of inquiry?

The letter of inquiry from the NCAA in February? I think.

And the thing is, I would have ignored it too. Rose was cleared twice and played a full season, also had the draft coming up. Cal backs his players, even to a fault. But it is what it is. The NCAA sent a letter stating there was an issue with rose before the NCAA's. Cal apparently ignored the letter

Again, just stating that cal is not perfect and we've done well. It can happen just as easily in football when these coaches are told they will uphold university standards unlike louaiville.
 

BigBlueFanGA

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The letter of inquiry from the NCAA in February? I think.

And the thing is, I would have ignored it too. Rose was cleared twice and played a full season, also had the draft coming up. Cal backs his players, even to a fault. But it is what it is. The NCAA sent a letter stating there was an issue with rose before the NCAA's. Cal apparently ignored the letter

Again, just stating that cal is not perfect and we've done well. It can happen just as easily in football when these coaches are told they will uphold university standards unlike louaiville.
Well, ok, but you put it in a string of attacks on Cals character with the intent of showing why Briles should be given a second chance, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong. Every coach of every team has some player issues. Sometimes minor sometimes worse. Tubby had team turmoil, remember? The issue isn't that players screwed up, it's all about how the coach handled it. On that issue, I don't believe there is any comparison. I find it offensive to link Cal and Briles in any way other than they both win.
 

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He didn't say UK can't win in football, he said UK can't win big in the SEC. And that's the truth. Refuse to believe it all you want, blame coaches, the ADs, the fans, but until you face the truth, that UK's lack of football success is mostly due to factors beyond their control, you're doomed to anger and frustration


Bingo. I feel sorry for the fans that ours that continue to waste their money going to Commonwealth Stadium expecting anything different than we've ever had.
 

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Right on. Spot on.


Funny stuff. You'd rather listen to the idiots that hate UK basketball for some weird reason, though they are UK football fans. What a sorry bunch of losers....and I don't hate UK Football. I just don't see us winning in the SEC nor do I see us hiring a dirtbag to do so.
 
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Well, ok, but you put it in a string of attacks on Cals character with the intent of showing why Briles should be given a second chance, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong. Every coach of every team has some player issues. Sometimes minor sometimes worse. Tubby had team turmoil, remember? The issue isn't that players screwed up, it's all about how the coach handled it. On that issue, I don't believe there is any comparison. I find it offensive to link Cal and Briles in any way other than they both win.

I'm tired of saying this. I never once attacked calipari. If you think linking his record at Memphis is attacking him then you're answering your own question without realizing it.

I stated this is a business, and Cals not perfect. I bring up all of the player incidences (and there's more but I'm holding back) because most people don't know it. They only know the NCAA issues. I'm involved in Memphis athletics to a degree. I watched the media and Memphis brass play mop up nearly weekly during some years. He had issues at Memphis that go beyond the NCAA.

Were they as bad as Petrino, or Briles, or whoever? No, but he had more baggage than we want to let on. It's worked out well because these guys can redeem themselves inside of a program like UK. Could Briles? Don't know. Could Petrino? Don't know. But it's worth the risk.

I'm far from a cal basher and as a matter of fact I used to try and explain him to this fanbase constantly back in 2007 when id say 80% of UK fans thought he was the dirtiest coach in America. I'm being honest on all sides here.

I'll leave it here. But people need to stop pretending we haven't taken on risks before.
 
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BigBlueFanGA

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I'm tired of saying this. I never once attacked calipari. If you think linking his record at Memphis is attacking him then you're answering your own question without realizing it.

I stated this is a business, and Cals not perfect. I bring up all of the player incidences (and there's more but I'm holding back) because most people don't know it. They only know the NCAA issues. I'm involved in Memphis athletics to a degree. I watched the media and Memphis brass play mop up nearly weekly during some years. He had issues at Memphis that go beyond the NCAA.

Were they as bad as Petrino, or Briles, or whoever? No, but he had more baggage than we want to let on. It's worked out well because these guys can redeem themselves inside of a program like UK. Could Briles? Don't know. Could Petrino? Don't know. But it's worth the risk.

I'm far from a cal bashed and as a matter of fact I used to try and explain him to this fanbase constantly back in 2007 when id say 80% of UK fans thought he was the dirtiest coach in America. I'm being honest on all sides here.
Attack may have been the wrong word on my part. I realize that Cal brought in some players with baggage but it still isn't on the same level as what Briles did.
 
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You're quoting Gary Parrish, congrats. Now, what was Cal ever accused of? Nope, not sarcasm. I'll wait.
Then why didn't the premier bball program in thr country hire the best bball coach in the country, whom also stated he wanted the job? Ill wait