PETRINO HAS LOUISVILLE RANKED # 13 IN AP POLL !
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I am a UL fan.
I totally agree.
We will know a lot more about this team in two weeks. We might be mediocre or we might be pretty good.
That's definitely not the resume of someone you would consider to be one of the best coaches in the country.
If UofL was tanking, the OP wouldn't come near making a post as he did - I concur with one of the posters "go cheer for UofL then".
It has certainly tarnished their reputation, no doubt. I think their rebuttal would be that winning cures all and that people forget about transgressions over time. UL has such a scandal-ridden and corrupt culture that I think they could pay some pretty hefty prices in the coming years, but that is TBD.
I know in sloppy conversations like this everything gets jumbled together, but I wish we could distinguish between our perps. Breaking club rules (allegedly) which is what Cal did/was accused of doing....is much different than breaking state laws, violating confidences and generally revealing yourself to be a ****, breaching employment contracts, being enough of a snake to get blackballed by an entire conference, which is what Petrino did.....is much different than harboring fugitives and covering up crimes to win football games, which is what Briles is accused of.
Breaking the speed limit and robbing a bank are both breaking the law, but hardly the same......
Breaking the speed limit and robbing a bank are both breaking the law, but hardly the same......
Come on, man. Let's not spin it. There's no doubt that almost every fanbase outside of Memphis despised cal and assumed him to be "dirty". By all accounts, he has been clean during his tenure at UK, but there's no harm in admitting that the vast majority felt that way before he got here.
I don't know - maybe so. I recall some of those conversations, but I honestly don't have a feel for percentages one way or the other. There were a lot of people saying "no way, he cheats" but there were a lot of people saying something contrary. Just like all internet conversations, it's hard to determine how many are on opposing sides - it's just lines of text on a screen written by people with imaginary names. Be easier if we all showed up in a convention hall and had to stand on one side or the other!
His lead in to that link was "Here's proof that you all...." Not much proof, definitely not all.....
True. I also think it's interesting that Petrino made the decision to retain Clint Hurtt even after he was proven to be a cheater. One thing that UL fans always maintained was that Petrino may be a jerk, and he may take chances on dicey characters, and he may have cheated on his wife, BUT HE'S NEVER BROKEN ANY RULES! Hard to believe that Clint Hurtt suddenly decided to abide by the righteous path once Honest Bob got to town.
Bottom lines:
-UL is dirty as hell, but they don't care as long as they win.
-UK should have at least granted Petrino an interview. It's time to win, it's not time to continue taking chances that some up and comer will magically change our paradigm.
-It is possible to change trajectories. South Carolina did it for ten years. Candy did it for four years. Florida made a gigantic leap in 1990 when it hired Spurrier (never won an SEC title prior to his arrival). Wisconsin did it with Alvarez. UL did it (albeit against pitiful competition) in the late 90s (with lots of foundational credit to Howard).
-I maintain that the best way to decide if it was smart NOT to hire to Petrino is if in your heart of hearts you believe we would be in the same position (or worse) if he was our coach. I would bet a ton of money that we would have a better overall record if this was year 4 of the petrino regime.
Throwing out insults to people (especially the word you used as an insult) - is extremely low class and will cause your stay here to be shortened.
There are some on here who admitted they don't mind if we cheat as long as we win. Same pathetic bunch.
On in men's bb it most certainly is a priority and always will be...the hell with the rest
Your question has already been answered... MB's contact has just been extended with a very nice raise till 2022 I believe.
Lol "almost certainly" - that UGA team was on a 10 game win streak and in the middle of like 23 regular season wins in 24 games.
Arkansas would've been an underdog in the Ga Dome to that team.
Um, no. Step away from the crack pipe. UGA's best win that year was against Auburn, 45-7, ranked 20th at the time, finished the season ranked 25th. And had Arkansas beat LSU they would have had 1 loss compared to UGA's 2. Arkansas would have been ranked 2nd or 3rd in that situation. No way would Arkansas have been the underdog in that scenario.
Arkansas had 4 wins against quality ranked opponents that season, including a solid win over the South Carolina team UGA lost to in week 2 and in the Cotton Bowl against K State, who ended the season ranked 8th compared to UGA at 16. Arkansas finished the season ranked 6th.
Sure, UGA had a nice run if you want to count going into the following season, during which they got their clocks cleaned by South Carolina all over again, 35-7
If you want to make the point that Richt is a good coach. No argument. But the discussion was that Petrino has never won big in the SEC. Flatly disagree with that.
FSU, Clemson, Houston are Ls.
One more loss in the regular season is not far fetched. Several teams on their schedule are capable of beating them.
Do you really think Stoops would get fired at the end of this season? Doesn't he have some type of huge buyout? Plus, he has recruited at a level you guys haven't seen before. There is no way a good AD would pull the plug on this after year 4. Coaches need a good 6 or 7 years to build a program.
That will end this season. We will beat FSU, Clemson, or Houston this year without a doubt. Probably don't win all 3 but will get at least one.
BTW Pushup, I am hearing Gameday is very likely for next Saturday. Should be exciting. If I had to pick, I'd say we win that one just based on that.
"Wahhh...its basketballs fault." I swear Kentucky Football only fans are the worst. Not another school in the nation would complain about bein THE school in one sport because the other sport struggles. Every other average school would give anything to be dominant in either of the big 2 sports instead of average but never winning anything in both.
You guys aren't beating FSU. Jackson will be running for his life and that is not the secondary you want to improvise on. And you aren't beating the other two either. Houston is probably the most likely but that's on the road with Houston more than likely in the playoff race. I doubt they slip up.
Its bound to happen. He doesn't know how to slide and is going to get crushed playing teams like FSU & Clemson.
The question for me is what if UofL goes to the playoffs this year, and we go home without a bowl?
I wanted Petrino, but I was also a big advocate for Stoops. I thought they both would win here, but I was more sure of it with Petrino.
I don't mean to step on the toes of any Moral U fans.
I wanted Petrino, but I was also a big advocate for Stoops. I thought they both would win here, but I was more sure of it with Petrino.
I don't mean to step on the toes of any Moral U fans.
I am not sure if UL will beat any or all of those teams. I know UL is good, they need to play better competition before we know how good. Playing FSU early is a benefit for UL, I think. Clemson looked beatable against Auburn. Houston is a non-power five school. They are darn good, but can they beat two good P5 schools in one year? And, what OU does against OSU will play a role in how we view the Cougars win this past weekend. They should be praying that OU pulls an upset or, in the very least, makes OSU sweat.
But, if BP does not win any of those game, I think his coaching at UL will remain grossly underwhelming. I have not seen genius coaching from him at UL over the past couple of years. UL has won most of the games they should have won. Losing to UVA two years ago and to Pitt last year were bad losses for a coach that has a reputation as some kind of wunderkind.
I do not think UL should lose to any other school on their schedule other than the three mentioned above. A four loss season is definitely a disappointment, IMO.
Syracuse has played UL tougher than it should over the past few years, but I don't think the Orange are a good team this year. FSU will be the first chance we get to see. It will be at home for UL against a frosh QB who looked really good in the second half of the first game, but awful in the first quarter. Consistency for the FSU QB will be key.
Petrino has a great young quarterback to run his system this year, that is clear. As close as we have been the past two years (double digit losses only to FSU), I do think it's quite possible we win at least one of those games.
I still get cracked up every time I see pictures of Bobby and that neckbrace after his motorcycle incident
Don't be so sure. I heard Deener and Maybin talking today and they seem to have some sources that say it's a real possibility. Look at the other match ups that week and tell me which are more intriguing.
If that's the case, why did your holy savior, "Tom" pull the plug on Kragthorpe after just three years? Is he not a good AD? Of course he is, he is the holy savior and holy father of the UL empire!
Completely different scenario. Didn't think I'd have to explain this one but Krags was handed the keys to a Cadillac and turned it in to rusty dumpster in 3 years. Stoops inherited a team that was 2-10 and by your very own admission lacked much if any talent. Plus you are in the SEC. You can't turn that around in 3 or 4 years. It takes numerous recruiting cycles and small steps up to get where you want to go. I'd say the pure fact he went 5-7 back to back after UK having endured two 2-10 years is great progress. But hey, if you guys want to fire him, be my guest.
Given the boner that ESPN has for Bob Stoops and all the campy Ohio connections he has, I'm sure a Tom Rinaldi piece about Youngstown, Ohio being the epicenter of coaching cradles and the pivot for all things holy...Ohio State and OU is a safe bet to get the nod that day.
Read your post. I'm just quoting (and disproving) the resident UL genius (and it's tough to pick just one), Petjurino, who claims that "no good" AD pulls the plug after 4 years. Another in a long line of ridiculous statements that you've made here...
Krags was actually handed the keys to a dumpster that was on fire. Look at the number of Petrino players that had to be kicked off the team. There are teams that were on probation that got off easier.
Deener mentioned this one but he also seemed to think that this game loses it's luster with the OU loss. I kind of have to agree. UofL-FSU could have playoff implications where as OSU-OU will not.
Eh, so what exactly did you disprove? What exactly made the statement ridiculous? You added nothing to disprove what I said.
[roll]This might be one of the best things I've heard in a while. Krags was handed something like 22 starters from an Orange Bowl championship team. A team that was one offsides away from being in the BCS national title game. That's hardly a dumpster fire.
As for Petrino players that "had to be kicked off the team", what is that based on? There were no problems while Petrino was here. They were disciplined and stayed out of trouble. All of a sudden Krags shows up and they need to be kicked out? Sounds like the problem was Krags. I am sorry but your post was asinine.