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sheyduke

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I think I read earlier this season there was no way we'd beat UNC this year as well. How'd that work out?
I'm not gonna lie, I had UNC beating Duke. Given the way the season had gone many did. Even the annylist.

Did Duke pull out the win, they did so I'm happy I was wrong and happy Duke won. It was a win win.
 

duke0527

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Reading is fundamental. I said with the way the rotation is now we can't beat them. Amile won't be able to hang in there. Bolden and Giles has been getting spot minutes so far which will make it hard for them as well. Gonzaga likes to feed the post so that's foul trouble the bigs will get in. Which is why it would be a good idea to play the freshmen bigs more to get them ready for that. I don't know who said we would lose to UNC. We're guaranteed a win against them strictly off coaching. With that heavy 6-man small ball rotation we won't win the title. I love Duke but I wouldn't put a dime on them if the tourney started now.
I assume you feel the same way about Nova and Kansas then. Nova is running a six man rotation right now. I wish the bigs played more as well, but Duke can't afford to drop games and more minutes to Bolden could have cost them the Clemson and/or Pitt games. If they were blowing teams out then he and Vrank would probably play more, but every game has been tight it seems. It is what it is. I personally think there's been a mutual decision to limit Giles minutes all year. Could be wrong.
 
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I assume you feel the same way about Nova and Kansas then. Nova is running a six man rotation right now. I wish the bigs played more as well, but Duke can't afford to drop games and more minutes to Bolden could have cost them the Clemson and/or Pitt games. If they were blowing teams out then he and Vrank would probably play more, but every game has been tight it seems. It is what it is. I personally think there's been a mutual decision to limit Giles minutes all year. Could be wrong.

You make good points. I just think Bolden and Giles need to be in there to get some exposure against high caliber teams. The reason everyone though Duke would be the runaway favorites is because of the depth. We don't even use it though. I never believe in Kansas though. They always choke. As far as Nova they shocked people last year. They did get hot from 3 the whole tournament which helps a lot
 

WI#1Dukie22

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No mention of how tough it is for bigger teams to match us.... you people are taking all the fun out of this years tourney. Not only spilling the future results but now even slipping on what Amile has in store???

So since we already lost to Gonzaga due to Amile..... can you just tell me what round this is in so I can go work on my golf game for the year and forget about this miserable season K has Fd away....... Thanks in advance
 
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sheyduke

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No mention of how tough it is for bigger teams to match us.... you people are taking all the fun out of this years tourney. Not only spilling the future results but now even slipping on what Amile has in store???

So since we already lost to Gonzaga due to Amile..... can you just tell me what round this is in so I can go work on my golf game for the year and forget about this miserable season K has Fd away....... Thanks in advance
Round of 32, lol.
Just having some fun
 
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Smh. That's a shame.
No mention of how tough it is for bigger teams to match us.... you people are taking all the fun out of this years tourney. Not only spilling the future results but now even slipping on what Amile has in store???

So since we already lost to Gonzaga due to Amile..... can you just tell me what round this is in so I can go work on my golf game for the year and forget about this miserable season K has Fd away....... Thanks in advance

Have you ever played basketball or actually followed the game? Or are you just a Duke fan that just agree with everything Coach K says? I bet you were surprised to see that Capel made the call for Tyus to do pick and rolls in the national championship. How dare he suggest something better than what Coach K suggested hahaha
 

WI#1Dukie22

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You make good points. I just think Bolden and Giles need to be in there to get some exposure against high caliber teams. The reason everyone though Duke would be the runaway favorites is because of the depth. We don't even use it though. I never believe in Kansas though. They always choke. As far as Nova they shocked people last year. They did get hot from 3 the whole tournament which helps a lot

Actually your quite wrong..... we were the run away favs for the exact reasons your starting to see! K, Kennard, Allen, veteran glue guys mixed in and deep rotation of bigs which we still have. And yes, our bigs will come up very big in the near future. This thing called practice will have them plenty prepared!!
 

LongTimeDukeFan

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I completely agree. Seemed to this armchair coach that he didn't like competition with Thomas Hill, who was one underrated player at Duke. Seems coincidental with Thornton and other guards on team 25 yrs later
Actually the issue was playing time. He had the third most minutes behind Bobby and Christian and his dad wanted him to be running the show at (wait for it) point guard. Billy knew that he wasn't going to get that role and instead of playing on the championship team for the second time he transferred. Had a great couple of years at Vanderbilt, but always seemed to be unhappy.
 

WI#1Dukie22

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I've questioned K in games we've lost, and on choices that were evident for us fans to see. Your questioning a game we won. We're not going to agree. I'm sure you would be happy with a loss as long as Bolden and Giles got the minutes you feel sufficient. In that case I'm sure you would be harping on K for not preparing them.

I've been around here a long time, guys like you come and go. I rarely waste the time I have already. You make zero even avg talking points. I'm not gonna bore the board with my basketball back ground for F sakes. I'm not going to get into a whose the bigger fan pissing match.

You clearly know more then K, i get it!
 

QC Dukie

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I've questioned K in games we've lost, and on choices that were evident for us fans to see. Your questioning a game we won. We're not going to agree. I'm sure you would be happy with a loss as long as Bolden and Giles got the minutes you feel sufficient. In that case I'm sure you would be harping on K for not preparing them.

I've been around here a long time, guys like you come and go. I rarely waste the time I have already. You make zero even avg talking points. I'm not gonna bore the board with my basketball back ground for F sakes. I'm not going to get into a whose the bigger fan pissing match.

You clearly know more then K, i get it!
Yea I hope he's our next coach when K hangs it up.

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I've questioned K in games we've lost, and on choices that were evident for us fans to see. Your questioning a game we won. We're not going to agree. I'm sure you would be happy with a loss as long as Bolden and Giles got the minutes you feel sufficient. In that case I'm sure you would be harping on K for not preparing them.

I've been around here a long time, guys like you come and go. I rarely waste the time I have already. You make zero even avg talking points. I'm not gonna bore the board with my basketball back ground for F sakes. I'm not going to get into a whose the bigger fan pissing match.

You clearly know more then K, i get it!

You're a Coach K praiser. You won't see any wrong with anything he does. That's just how you roll. I'm not a follower like you
 

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Plenty of folks don't always agree with k. In fact I don't understand why k hasn't given bolden or Giles more minutes. But you know there is probably a good reason we will never know.

Some just voice their opinions in an extreme manner that sounds ridiculous. Not taking it to the extreme or defending against the extreme doesn't make you a k apologist. I completely avoid the scout duke board these days because of this behavior.
 

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Lord, now this dipshit is saying "Amile can't hang in there" vs the Zags. You mean that same guy who "hung in there" vs Kaminsy in the Wisky game? Stop acting like you know more about the game than Mike Krzyzewski knucklehead, you don't. We all know Coach makes mistakes, but you blew past stupid like 45 miles back. You're right reading IS fundamental, and I'm reading a fool who won't be here much longer unless he reels it in.
 

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I'd love for Bolden and Giles to play more but even more than that, I'd love for them to earn more minutes in practice, which apparently they aren't doing.;
 
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Lord, now this dipshit is saying "Amile can't hang in there" vs the Zags. You mean that same guy who "hung in there" vs Kaminsy in the Wisky game? Stop acting like you know more about the game than Mike Krzyzewski knucklehead, you don't. We all know Coach makes mistakes, but you blew past stupid like 45 miles back. You're right reading IS fundamental, and I'm reading a fool who won't be here much longer unless he reels it in.
I agree with much of what you say here, but disagree about Amile. I mean you're bringing up a game from 2 years ago. I think he hasn't looked great the past month, IMO.

Also disagree about threatening to ban someone - just put him on ignore if he bothers you that much.
 

timo0402

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I agree with much of what you say here, but disagree about Amile. I mean you're bringing up a game from 2 years ago. I think he hasn't looked great the past month, IMO.

Also disagree about threatening to ban someone - just put him on ignore if he bothers you that much.
You do realize amile is playing hurt correct?
 
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You do realize amile is playing hurt correct?
Of course, but what does that have to do with my comment? I didn't say he hasn't looked good because he sucks. He hasn't looked good - injuries, playing out of position, too many minutes. And Gonzaga's bigs would eat him up.
 

SoCal Dukie

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Wow, there is a lot going on in this thread. Some overreaction, some reality. I will say one thing (as mentioned in other threads): I am an optimistic Duke fan, and while the Zags have been overrated many years recently, they would take Duke and the recent 6-man rotation. I live on the west coast and see the Zags play pretty regularly; Amile would get worn down against that frontline, especially being injured. Let's keep a sense of realism here fellas....
 

BNM79

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Of course, but what does that have to do with my comment? I didn't say he hasn't looked good because he sucks. He hasn't looked good - injuries, playing out of position, too many minutes. And Gonzaga's bigs would eat him up.


Amille really bothered Meeks in the unc game. And overall dukes frontline held a very strong unc frontline (even without hicks) in check. Do you think that the zags bigs are so much better?
I am not saying duke wins against the zags but saying their frontline eats ours alive is a bit of an extreme assumption.
 
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SoCal Dukie

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Yea I am not buying the whole 'K doesn't know what he's doing' line being used above.

That being said, again, do you all really think that Duke will get far if they truly go 6-deep with Amile (especially a not 100% Amile) @ the 5? I see no point in worrying about who actually starts, but you don't see Duke struggling without Giles and/or Bolden getting SOME PT? I know they have been, but that 2nd half against Clemson was eye-opening. Amile couldn't seem to entirely slow Thomas in that game (15 pts & 9 boards). Premek is 7'1 and over 300 lbs; he's a monster. Amile can defend, but that is a tall task for 38 minutes (or whatever Premek would play).
 
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