Photo of Matt Elam Today. Looks good

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Cast is only precautionary per Stoops.
Jen Smith ‏@jenheraldleader 2h2 hours ago


Matt Elam really does look to be in good shape. He has a cast on left hand, though.
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K_TIME

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Barring injury...Elam is going to have really solid year for us v.s the run game. He'll never be a pass rusher but there is no such animal in a 3-4 scheme in college of NFL.

Good job Matt putting in the discipline needed to get in better body shape!
 

UKfan2151

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Elam appears to be in the best shape I've ever seen him in. He looks long, lean, strong and athletic. And holy crap, look at Miggins! That guy is likewise in full on beast mode. Our DL may not be in quite as bad a shape as many here think. Surely one of Pringle or Hyde will be able to back up the NT spot. It sounds like Looney is coming along well and can perhaps back up Miggins at the other tackle spot. And T.J. Carter sounds like he should be able to back up the DE spot. Yeah, we are younger and thinner on the DL than we'd like to be, but there is some talent there. Provided we can avoid any other major injuries among our ends and tackles, I think we can still be okay there, even with the loss of Meant and Hatcher.
 

tmuck

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Damn, his gut is basically gone. He's a Junior now, and in relatively good playing shape, so no more overweight excuses as the reason he hasn't lived up to the hype thus far. Time to put up or shut up.
 

*Bleedingblue*

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Matt your looking like a more disciplined player every day keep up the good work. Very proud of the work you have put in.
 
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kentucky_wildcat_#1

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I think this kid finally figured out that to become a future NFL highly paid player, he will have to put in the work to get in shape to cash in on what could be there in the future if he keeps working hard at it. We usually hear about this guy looking like this, or that, and then once the season starts and we see these kids on the field, they look the same as before. With this kid, it's obvious he has put in the work to become the force every Kentucky fan knows he can be in the future. It's starting to look like the future is now. With this kid in the best shape of his life, we're talking a huge difference he could be for this year's football team. I give him a lot of credit. It's not easy to lose the gut he had and replace it with nothing but muscle. Now that he is in shape, it's time for him to show it on the field.
 

WildCard

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Elam looks good. In this case, less is more. That was the important first step to becoming the player everyone wants him to be.

Peace
 

huck

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I hope you all know more about it than, I think I do... poor line, poor linebackers = big points for them. I kinda think, to be a good defensive guy.... you got to be able to move, especially when you on a team of plugs.... good luck us.... but if Elam is only going to stand there with thumbs up his ***.... we dont have a chance.
 

Anon1660081258

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The point of a 3-4 NT is to consume 2-2.5 blockers in most situations. If that results in him appearing to "stand there with his thumbs in it" well... so be it. He is a set up man, not a playmaker. That is the role. Solo tackles are gravy at the position, not the biscuit.
 

JHB4UK

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done a fantastic job getting into better shape. strangely in his post practice evaluations it has not sounded like Stoops has been thrilled with his play though.
 

Big John Stud

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That's great, I hope it helps his horrific technique which was the real problem with his play last year.
 

Beatle Bum

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done a fantastic job getting into better shape. strangely in his post practice evaluations it has not sounded like Stoops has been thrilled with his play though.

I hear this too. Elam needed to get into shape. But, Stoops clearly does not want that to be Matt's goal. He wants Matt to learn and consistently use technique. Stoops clearly is not satisfied and I wonder if he fears Matt is satisfied. Being big and in shape is not enough. I think Stoops wants Elam to more than serviceable.
 
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Southern Miss fan here and no, I'm not here to get banned from the site and talk a lot of smack. Looking forward to a hard fought game and honestly, I'm not sure who is going to win this one. One thing is certain, you guys will know after this game how much improvement Matt Elam has made. The strong point of our offensive line is our center, Cameron Tom. That will be a fun battle to watch! Good luck to you guys and lets hope for a competitive, injury free game!

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Nuke99m.

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Elam's problem was that when he got tired, he tended to stand up out of his stance. This enabled an offensive lineman to take him on one on one. That in turn enabled the guard to brush off double teaming Elam and block the linebacker. This was one of our problems against the run last year once Lewis went down.

We will see if he can participate in several plays in a row without losing his wind this season.
 

Big John Stud

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Elam's problem was that when he got tired, he tended to stand up out of his stance. This enabled an offensive lineman to take him on one on one. That in turn enabled the guard to brush off double teaming Elam and block the linebacker. This was one of our problems against the run last year once Lewis went down.

We will see if he can participate in several plays in a row without losing his wind this season.
Tired had nothing to do with it. He had the same poor technique in the 1st quarter as he did in the 4th.
 

Blueaz

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I hope you all know more about it than, I think I do... poor line, poor linebackers = big points for them. I kinda think, to be a good defensive guy.... you got to be able to move, especially when you on a team of plugs.... good luck us.... but if Elam is only going to stand there with thumbs up his ***.... we dont have a chance.
huh...don't you know that is the new defensive technique?
 
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WildCard

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Elam's problem was that when he got tired, he tended to stand up out of his stance. This enabled an offensive lineman to take him on one on one. That in turn enabled the guard to brush off double teaming Elam and block the linebacker. This was one of our problems against the run last year once Lewis went down.

We will see if he can participate in several plays in a row without losing his wind this season.
What you were seeing, more often than not, was a zone or a "combo" block, not a true double team block. The fact is most offenses today do not use a "true" double team block anymore.

Back in the "power football" days (60s and 70s), yes, you would often see a double team on a NG by the C and play side OG usually in an effort to get the NT off the LOS and become a hinderance to backside pursuit. FB leads through on the LB and you have the classic isolation play.

Today's zone blocking schemes are more about wider splits, footwork and sealing DLs off to create "running lanes" rather than trying to knock them off the LOS and create a specific point of attack "hole". Spread sets move some of the second level defenders out and the deeper handoff (i.e., shotgun handoff or "stretch" handoff from under center) allow the RB to "find a lane" rather than simply plunge into the 4 hole or whatever.

Aside from "conditioning" I thought Elam's other problems were at least somewhat related to his enormous girth. He now should be able to get into a better stance and show more explosion from his stance. There is a common misconception about "holding your gap" (or "gaps" if playing an even technique, i.e., 0, 2 or 4)

DLs, regardless of size, are not taught to "catch a block"; they must explode into the blocker and "deliver the blow" to gain a momentum advantage at the LOS. I guess what I am trying to say is you want to hold your gap BUT you want to "move" the LOS into the offensive backfield. Doing so essentially blows up ANY run play between the OTs. When that happens on a regular basis you will have pretty much stopped any run game.

Peace
 
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DACats86

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Southern Miss fan here and no, I'm not here to get banned from the site and talk a lot of smack. Looking forward to a hard fought game and honestly, I'm not sure who is going to win this one. One thing is certain, you guys will know after this game how much improvement Matt Elam has made. The strong point of our offensive line is our center, Cameron Tom. That will be a fun battle to watch! Good luck to you guys and lets hope for a competitive, injury free game!

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Thanks - looking forward to the game as well. Hope you are able to make it to Lexington. Personally, I have a lot of respect for the southern Miss program and its players. Tom will be a test for Elam, but he does get to practice against one of the SEC's best centers every day...
 
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Thanks - looking forward to the game as well. Hope you are able to make it to Lexington. Personally, I have a lot of respect for the southern Miss program and its players. Tom will be a test for Elam, but he does get to practice against one of the SEC's best centers every day...
Yea. I heard that UKs center was one of the top in the nation too. Should be a good battle. My main concerns are on the perimeter of the line. Both of our tackles are inexperienced. I hope Mullens has time to throw the ball.

Our d-line is small but very athletic and quick. We usually don't do well in the 2nd half against SEC lines but we will see what happens.
 
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The point of a 3-4 NT is to consume 2-2.5 blockers in most situations. If that results in him appearing to "stand there with his thumbs in it" well... so be it. He is a set up man, not a playmaker. That is the role. Solo tackles are gravy at the position, not the biscuit.

^^^BINGO!^^^
 

Soupbean

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I hear this too. Elam needed to get into shape. But, Stoops clearly does not want that to be Matt's goal. He wants Matt to learn and consistently use technique. Stoops clearly is not satisfied and I wonder if he fears Matt is satisfied. Being big and in shape is not enough. I think Stoops wants Elam to more than serviceable.
Any chance coach is intentionally slow playing Matt just to keep expectations eased on him since the weight loss. I'm sure he knows fans are expecting an explosion now.
 

Anon1660081258

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Any chance coach is intentionally slow playing Matt just to keep expectations eased on him since the weight loss. I'm sure he knows fans are expecting an explosion now.
Does anyone know what % of snaps he has played in the scrimmages? I could see the staff "managing" his pre-season for several reasons. He certainly looks ready for a full dance card.
 

EnPassant

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The point of a 3-4 NT is to consume 2-2.5 blockers in most situations. If that results in him appearing to "stand there with his thumbs in it" well... so be it. He is a set up man, not a playmaker. That is the role. Solo tackles are gravy at the position, not the biscuit.

That's just not true. On most plays there are 6 OL (incl the TE) blocking a 6 man front (nickel defense) - you don't see true double teams much less 2.5 (lol) - it's an even match up.

Just YouTube a game from last year -it's mostly opposing centers handling him relatively easily - he can't disengage and has no lateral movement.

The weight loss can't hurt, but folks constantly making excuses for him like "nose guards aren't supposed to do anything" is just wrong. He's been a below average DL and thats why if not for an injury he wouldn't have started for a 2-6 SEC team. That's a little cruel but it's just fact.

Kids like Boom and no 21 could start for anyone - UK has some really good players - Elam ain't one however. Not yet anyway.
 

JMalone4UK

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Yea. I heard that UKs center was one of the top in the nation too. Should be a good battle. My main concerns are on the perimeter of the line. Both of our tackles are inexperienced. I hope Mullens has time to throw the ball.

Our d-line is small but very athletic and quick. We usually don't do well in the 2nd half against SEC lines but we will see what happens.
Judging Shannon Dawson on last year, I'd say giving his QB time to get the ball off isn't his strong suite. Ran a ton of plays that took forever to develop.