Pick Your All-Time Hawkeye Lineup

[The-Dude-Abides]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

 

[Headgearsucks]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

Lincoln or TJ Williams maybe 149 only won it once at 149 but had 1 loss

 

[dtripp26]

This weekend has been too long to tackle this list...but yeah, Lincoln over Metcalf every day.

 

[AndreTheHawk]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

Yep, you're close. Tough to leave out Randy Lewis, and Lincoln Mac is a no-brainer. lb for lb Joe Williams is the most badass Hawk there ever was IMO. He sleepwalked to 3 Titles.

 

[The-Dude-Abides]

Yep, you're close. Tough to leave out Randy Lewis, and Lincoln Mac is a no-brainer. lb for lb Joe Williams is the most badass Hawk there ever was IMO. He sleepwalked to 3 Titles.

Yep, definitely LewBoo too, not to mention Terry.

Call me crazy, but I think Metcalf beats McIlravy if they meet in their respective primes.

Love watching old clips of Joe Williams. Such an incredible athlete.

 

[Mattski]

Call me crazy, but I think Metcalf beats McIlravy if they meet in their respective primes.

You're crazy . Actually I think it's relatively close but LM was just a bit better based on his overall collegiate and post collegiate career. Olympic bronze, world silver and world bronze, he was legit top 3 in the world for a decent stretch... Brent never reached that level with any consistency and I think the small talent gap between them is the reason. I'd say Lincoln wins 7-8 out of 10 matches between the two of them.

 

[cphawkinthelou]

Good stuff, boys...

 

[sdvike]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

Premature but current 184 with a healthy career is in the mix in 4 years.

 

[giveitall]

Ill take Whitmer at 125 for nostalgia. He could have added 3.5lbs to each bicep I'm sure.

 

[Kinnick 4 Prez]

My list is different as I have only watched Iowa wrestling the last 13-14 years.
125 - Spencer
133 - Ramos
141 - Eierman
149 - Lugo
157 - Young
165 - Marinelli
174 - Kemerer
184 - Angelo
197 - Buchanan
Hwt - Cass

I was debating between Bull and Mikey. Mikey finished higher but Bull won 4 B1G titles.

I'll keep an eye on this thread as I'm curious what you guys think. I get Brands, Banachs, Williams are all legit. I need to read up more on Iowa wrestling 70s-00s.
I know names but not accomplishments.

 

[LaQuintaHawk]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

Lee and Lou anchoring each end with Jimmy Z batting clean up is all I need to see

 

[sdvike]

My list is different as I have only watched Iowa wrestling the last 13-14 years.
125 - Spencer
133 - Ramos
141 - Eierman
149 - Lugo
157 - Young
165 - Marinelli
174 - Kemerer
184 - Angelo
197 - Buchanan
Hwt - Cass

I was debating between Bull and Mikey. Mikey finished higher but Bull won 4 B1G titles.

I'll keep an eye on this thread as I'm curious what you guys think. I get Brands, Banachs, Williams are all legit. I need to read up more on Iowa wrestling 70s-00s.
I know names but not accomplishments.

Good list. I was never impressed with Young although that takedown in Minny was a thing of beauty. I would put St John in for Young. Id also take Cali over Bull but like you say that's a close call.

 

[Head Guy]

You have to have Ricco Chipperelli in your lineup

 

[The-Dude-Abides]

My list is different as I have only watched Iowa wrestling the last 13-14 years.
125 - Spencer
133 - Ramos
141 - Eierman
149 - Lugo
157 - Young
165 - Marinelli
174 - Kemerer
184 - Angelo
197 - Buchanan
Hwt - Cass

I was debating between Bull and Mikey. Mikey finished higher but Bull won 4 B1G titles.

I'll keep an eye on this thread as I'm curious what you guys think. I get Brands, Banachs, Williams are all legit. I need to read up more on Iowa wrestling 70s-00s.
I know names but not accomplishments.

Tons of good stuff on YouTube these days. Is recommend starting with this dual. Just listen to that Carver crowd. Same as it ever was.

 

[Kinnick 4 Prez]

Good list. I was never impressed with Young although that takedown in Minny was a thing of beauty. I would put St John in for Young. Id also take Cali over Bull but like you say that's a close call.

I was there for that. So awesome. Goofs thought they had a score coming and Young tossed him. Thing of beauty.
I didn’t know who else to put at 157.

 

[KarlRamrahd]

My list is different as I have only watched Iowa wrestling the last 13-14 years.
125 - Spencer
133 - Ramos
141 - Eierman
149 - Lugo
157 - Young
165 - Marinelli
174 - Kemerer
184 - Angelo
197 - Buchanan
Hwt - Cass

I was debating between Bull and Mikey. Mikey finished higher but Bull won 4 B1G titles.

I'll keep an eye on this thread as I'm curious what you guys think. I get Brands, Banachs, Williams are all legit. I need to read up more on Iowa wrestling 70s-00s.
I know names but not accomplishments.

I honest to goodness can't tell if this is serious.

 

[sdvike]

I was there for that. So awesome. Goofs thought they had a score coming and Young tossed him. Thing of beauty.
I didn’t know who else to put at 157.

The best part was the Gopher getting up stunned with blood running down his face. CY did have a lethal explosion just didn't use it often enough.

 

[Babbahganoosh]

125
Spencer Lee (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Silver)
Terry Mcann (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 3rd, Olympic Gold)
Matt McDonough (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)

133
Barry Davis (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Silver, World Bronze and Silver)
Terry Brands (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Bronze, 2X World Champ)
Eric Juergens (2X NCAA Champ, 2X NCAA 3rd)
Brad Penrith e (NCAA Champ, 2X NCAA 2nd, World Silver)

141
Randy Lewis (2X Olympian, Olympic Gold, 2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 4X AA (horrific elbow injury))
Tom Brands (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Gold, World Champ)
Mark Ironside (2X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, 67 match win streak)

149
Brent Metcalf (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 3X World Team Member)
Troy Steiner ( NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 4X AA, Multi time zuS National Team member)

157
Lincoln McIlravy (3X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Bronze, Workd Silver, Workd Bronze)
Chuck Yagla (2X NCAA Champ, 3X AA, 1980 Olympian)
TJ Williams (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Career Best Win Percentage)

165
Jim Zalesky (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Longest Winning streak at 89)
Mark Perry (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, NCAA 3rd)

174
Joe Williams (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, 2004 Olympia, 2X World Bronze)
Marty Kistler (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)

184
Chris Campbell (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)
Royce Alger
(2X NCAA Champ, 3X AA, World Silver)

197
Ed Banach (3X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Gold)
Duane Goldman (NCAA Champ, 3X NCAA 2nd)
Lee Fulhart (NCAA Champ, 4 X AA)
Steven Buchanan (NCAA Champ, 4 X AA)

HWT
Lou Banach (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 3rd, Olympic Gold)
Steve Mocco (2X NCAA Champ, 2 X NCAA 2nd, Olympian)

 

[The-Dude-Abides]

125
Spencer Lee (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Silver)
Terry Mcann (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 3rd, Olympic Gold)
Matt McDonough (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)

133
Barry Davis (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Silver, World Bronze and Silver)
Terry Brands (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Bronze, 2X World Champ)
Eric Juergens (2X NCAA Champ, 2X NCAA 3rd)
Brad Penrith e (NCAA Champ, 2X NCAA 2nd, World Silver)

141
Randy Lewis (2X Olympian, Olympic Gold, 2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 4X AA (horrific elbow injury))
Tom Brands (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Olympic Gold, World Champ)
Mark Ironside (2X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, 67 match win streak)

149
Brent Metcalf (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 3X World Team Member)
Troy Steiner ( NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, 4X AA, Multi time zuS National Team member)

157
Lincoln McIlravy (3X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Bronze, Workd Silver, Workd Bronze)
Chuck Yagla (2X NCAA Champ, 3X AA, 1980 Olympian)
TJ Williams (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Career Best Win Percentage)

165
Jim Zalesky (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, Longest Winning streak at 89)
Mark Perry (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, NCAA 3rd)

174
Joe Williams (3X NCAA Champ, 4X AA, 2004 Olympia, 2X World Bronze)
Marty Kistler (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)

184
Chris Campbell (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd)
Royce Alger
(2X NCAA Champ, 3X AA, World Silver)

197
Ed Banach (3X NCAA Champ, NCAA 2nd, Olympic Gold)
Duane Goldman (NCAA Champ, 3X NCAA 2nd)
Lee Fulhart (NCAA Champ, 4 X AA)
Steven Buchanan (NCAA Champ, 4 X AA)

HWT
Lou Banach (2X NCAA Champ, NCAA 3rd, Olympic Gold)
Steve Mocco (2X NCAA Champ, 2 X NCAA 2nd, Olympian)

Good stuff! Those are some bad hombres. Gotta give Campbell his medals though--world gold in 81, then a decade later takes vacation time from his lawyer job without telling anyone and wins world silver in 90. Capped off with Olympic bronze at age 37 in 1992! He is probably my favorite Hawk of all time. Such a technically brilliant wrestler, super interesting and intelligent guy, and Gable said he was the most talented wrestler he ever coached. Doesn't get enough appreciation imo.

 

[sdvike]

Never won a title but Desanto would still get my vote as one of the all time great Hawks.

 

[1980sHawk!]

Based on fan involvement and sheer entertainment value, not accolades:

125 Davis (pace and ability to get the crowd fired up)
133 T Brands (Either one, brutal and punishing)
141 Lewis (maybe the most gifted to ever wear the black and gold)
149 Metcalf (pace, and violence, played the bad guy role to perfection)
157 Linc (another SD talent, Like Lewis maybe one of the best all time, could stack up points quickly)
165 Jimmy Z (What he did to Nate Carr in the dual cements Jimmy as a legend)
174 Brinzer (a punchers chance from any position)
184 Royce/Rico (I couldn't decide, Royce through sheer brute strength or Rico because of flash and style. Both pinners, the fall guy and the butcher)
197 Banach (pinner, if we were within 12 going into 190 we still had a chance!)
HWT Banach (In my opinion a very under rated HWT historically, remember he was at times wresting guys 200 lbs bigger, also a pinner!)

 

[Squatch96]

125-Barry Davis-Gable
Jody Strittmatter-Zalesky
Spencer Lee-Brands
133-Terry Brands-Gable
Eric Jurgens-Zalesky
Cory Clark-Brands
141-Tom Brands-Gable
Doug Schwab-Zalesky
Montell Marion-Brands
149-Lincoln Mcilravy-Gable
Ty Eustice-Zalesky
Brent Metcalf-Brands
157-Jim Zalesky-Gable
T.J. Williams-Zalesky
Derek St.John-Brands
165-Marty Kistler-Gable
Eric Luedke-Zalesky
Mark Perry-Brands
174-Joe Williams-Gable
Tyler Nixt-Zalesky
Jay Borschel-Brands
184-Chris Campbell- Gable
Jessman Smith-Zalesky
Sammy Brooks-Brands
197-Ed Banach-Gable
Ryan Fulsaas-Zalesky
Stephen Buchanan-Brands
HWT-Lou Banach-Gable
Steve Mocco-Zalesky
Tony Cassioppi-Brands

 

[Gonzo_Bloor]

Yep, you're close. Tough to leave out Randy Lewis, and Lincoln Mac is a no-brainer. lb for lb Joe Williams is the most badass Hawk there ever was IMO. He sleepwalked to 3 Titles.

I had a sociology class with Joe and sat by him most of the time, super cool and nice dude.

 

[Gonzo_Bloor]

I'm gonna cheat and bump Barry Davis up to 133.

125 - Spencer Lee
133 - Barry Davis
141 - Randy Lewis
149 - Brent Metcalf
157 - Lincoln McIlravy
165 - Jim Zalesky
174 - Joe Williams
184 - Chris Campbell
197 - Ed Banach
HWT - Looooouuuu

 

[Sharkey1203]

In the interest of something to discuss on this dead board, who would you put on your All-Time Iowa lineup? Have to take some liberties with changes in weight classes, but here's what I've got:

125: Spencer Lee. Hard to imagine leaving Barry off this team, but Spencer is that guy.
133: Tom Brands
141: Mark Ironside
149: Brent Metcalf (might be controversial)
157: Jimmy Z
165: Joe Williams next topic
174: Royce Alger
184: Chris Campbell (wrestled 177 in college, but won all his medals at 90kg I believe, so calling him a 184 for this)
197: Ed Banach (similar to Campbell, but wrestled 190 his last year and internationally at 90kg, so he's a 197 now)
Hwt: Lou Banach

Thoughts? Am I close?

Love it, but I have Rico at 174. Alger may be better, but Rico was fun as hell to watch.

 

[blcoach80]

This is an awesome thread. Well done Dude Abides!

 

[chipackhawk]

Bruce Kinseth needs to be at least in the discussion at 149/57 - most outstanding wrestler at the NCAA tournament and knocked off Dave Schultz a couple of times deserves that.

 

[Sdwrestler_20]

125 - Spencer Lee (3x NC, Olympic Silver)
133- Randy Lewis (2x NC, Olympic Gold)
141- Tom Brands (3x NC, Olympic Gold, World Gold)
149- Lincoln McIlravy (3x NC, Olympic Bronze)
157- TJ Williams (2x NC, 98-1 at Iowa)
165- Joe Williams (3x NC, 2x World Bronze)
174- Royce Alger (2x NC, World Silver)
184- Chris Campbell (2x NC, Olympic Bronze, World Gold and Silver)
197- Ed Banach (3x NC, Olympic Gold)
285- Lou Banach (2x NC, Olympic Gold)

 

[Squatch96]

Bruce Kinseth needs to be at least in the discussion at 149/57 - most outstanding wrestler at the NCAA tournament and knocked off Dave Schultz a couple of times deserves that.

Pretty sure hes one of the last wrestlers to pin his way through ncaas as well

 

[Dannyj]

125-Barry Davis-Gable
Jody Strittmatter-Zalesky
Spencer Lee-Brands
133-Terry Brands-Gable
Eric Jurgens-Zalesky
Cory Clark-Brands
141-Tom Brands-Gable
Doug Schwab-Zalesky
Montell Marion-Brands
149-Lincoln Mcilravy-Gable
Ty Eustice-Zalesky
Brent Metcalf-Brands
157-Jim Zalesky-Gable
T.J. Williams-Zalesky
Derek St.John-Brands
165-Marty Kistler-Gable
Eric Luedke-Zalesky
Mark Perry-Brands
174-Joe Williams-Gable
Tyler Nixt-Zalesky
Jay Borschel-Brands
184-Chris Campbell- Gable
Jessman Smith-Zalesky
Sammy Brooks-Brands
197-Ed Banach-Gable
Ryan Fulsaas-Zalesky
Stephen Buchanan-Brands
HWT-Lou Banach-Gable
Steve Mocco-Zalesky
Tony Cassioppi-Brands

You should put Duane Goldman in at 197-Gable

 

[Squatch96]

You should put Duane Goldman in at 197-Gable

Hes a great option the gable all time is always gonna be a tough one it was also very tough to leave Royce off the list in my opinion

 

[VakAttack]

If we're using current weight cutting rules, etc, I think you guys are counting on people at the wrong weights.

I would go:

125: Spencer Lee
133: Randy Lewis (Terry Brands second team? Barry Davis maybe?)
141: Tom Brands
149: Brent Metcalf
157: Lincoln McIlravy (TJ Williams second team)
165: Jim Zalesky
174: Joe Williams
184: Chris Campbell
197: Little Banach
HWT: Big Banach (Steve Mocco second team)

 

[MSU158]

If we're using current weight cutting rules, etc, I think you guys are counting on people at the wrong weights.

I would go:

125: Spencer Lee
133: Randy Lewis (Terry Brands second team? Barry Davis maybe?)
141: Tom Brands
149: Brent Metcalf
157: Lincoln McIlravy (TJ Williams second team)
165: Jim Zalesky
174: Joe Williams
184: Chris Campbell
197: Little Banach
HWT: Big Banach (Steve Mocco second team)

That is an absolute monster lineup. Could any other program compete? OkState has so much history, they probably could. PSU has been so ridiculous lately and just added 4xers and even a 5xer. Would be interested to see what their absolute best rosters would look like...

All-Time Cowboys: The Best Ever OSU Wrestlers for Each Weight Class | Pistols Firing

Pulling from that blog:

125: Uetake
133: John Smith
141: Arndt
149: Stanley Henson
157: Pat Smith
165: Dieringer
174: Pendleton
184: Rosholt
197: Baum
285: Jimmy Jackson

Only 3 guys from the modern era makes it difficult to compare, but there are a LOT of NCAA titles in that group and very few career losses...

My best stab at PSU:

125: Prescott/Megaludis
133: Abe
141: Nick Lee
149: Retherford
157: Nolf
165: Taylor
174: Starocci/Ruth/Nickal
184: Brools/Starocci/Ruth/Nickal/Wright
197: Nickal/Brooks/Davis/Wright
285: McCoy/Kerkvliet


Iowa mops them up at the first 3 weights, but, from 149-197 PSU is absolutely stacked...

 

[jammen]

125) Falck
133) Luke Eustice
141) Pfaffinger
149)Ty Eustice
157)
165) Kennedy
174) Link
184) Glazier
197) Berge
hvy) Stoll

There are more but the crappy Iowa site only goes back to the 2007 roster.

 

[The-Dude-Abides]

That is an absolute monster lineup. Could any other program compete? OkState has so much history, they probably could. PSU has been so ridiculous lately and just added 4xers and even a 5xer. Would be interested to see what their absolute best rosters would look like...

All-Time Cowboys: The Best Ever OSU Wrestlers for Each Weight Class | Pistols Firing

Pulling from that blog:

125: Uetake
133: John Smith
141: Arndt
149: Stanley Henson
157: Pat Smith
165: Dieringer
174: Pendleton
184: Rosholt
197: Baum
285: Jimmy Jackson

Only 3 guys from the modern era makes it difficult to compare, but there are a LOT of NCAA titles in that group and very few career losses...

My best stab at PSU:

125: Prescott/Megaludis
133: Abe
141: Bartlett?
149: Retherford
157: Nolf
165: Taylor
174: Starocci/Ruth/Nickal
184: Starocci/Ruth/Nickal/Wright
197: Nickal/Davis/Wright
285: McCoy/Kerkvliet


Iowa mops them up at the first 3 weights, but, from 149-197 PSU is absolutely stacked...

I think you'd have to go with Nick Lee at 141. It also seems crazy to leave Brooks out, but with Starocci, Nickal, and Ruth in there, you might have to.

 

[MSU158]

I think you'd have to go with Nick Lee at 141. It also seems crazy to leave Brooks out, but with Starocci, Nickal, and Ruth in there, you might have to.

Good calls. I drew a blank on 141, for some reason. Also, shame on me for Brooks. They are just so ridiculously stacked from 174-197 that I brainfarted there...

 

[InTheCircle]

That is an absolute monster lineup. Could any other program compete? OkState has so much history, they probably could. PSU has been so ridiculous lately and just added 4xers and even a 5xer. Would be interested to see what their absolute best rosters would look like...

All-Time Cowboys: The Best Ever OSU Wrestlers for Each Weight Class | Pistols Firing

Pulling from that blog:

125: Uetake
133: John Smith
141: Arndt
149: Stanley Henson
157: Pat Smith
165: Dieringer
174: Pendleton
184: Rosholt
197: Baum
285: Jimmy Jackson

Only 3 guys from the modern era makes it difficult to compare, but there are a LOT of NCAA titles in that group and very few career losses...

My best stab at PSU:

125: Prescott/Megaludis
133: Abe
141: Nick Lee
149: Retherford
157: Nolf
165: Taylor
174: Starocci/Ruth/Nickal
184: Brools/Starocci/Ruth/Nickal/Wright
197: Nickal/Brooks/Davis/Wright
285: McCoy/Kerkvliet


Iowa mops them up at the first 3 weights, but, from 149-197 PSU is absolutely stacked...

I’ll take Mcllravy, Zalesky and Williams all day, and you guessed it, twice on Sunday. Mcllravy matches Nolf technically, he wins late. Taylor improved markedly after college. Zalesky by 3 in college. Star wouldn’t sniff a TD against Williams, Williams 4-1. This is using the 3 pt. TD.

 

[Gobblin]

Spencer Lee/Barry Davis
Randy Lewis/Terry Brands
Tom Brands/Mark Ironside
TJ Williams/Brent Metcalf
Lincoln McIlravy/Bruce Kinseth
Joe Williams/Jim Zalesky
Royce Alger/Mark Perry
Chris Campbell/Rico Chiaparelli
Ed Banach/Duane Goldman
Lou Banach/Steve Mocco

 

[The-Dude-Abides]

Good calls. I drew a blank on 141, for some reason. Also, shame on me for Brooks. They are just so ridiculously stacked from 174-197 that I brainfarted there...

It's nuts to leave a 4x off the list, but I'm not sure I would take Brooks over Nickal or Ruth in their primes, and not sure where else you can put him. Really hard to compare them all at their various weights. Might have to leave CStar out even.

The more I think about it, I'd probably go with some combo of Ruth/Nickal/Brooks at 74-97, with CStar as first alternate.

 

[Slayton09!]

Lincoln McIlravy 149 for sure!