Playing Devils Advocate

[Ewooc]

Don't get me wrong I am all aboard the Frost train. As with any new coach hire there is no gaurantee, but taking a step back, has Frost really done enough in 2 years at UCF to prove he can compete with the Big boys winning in the the AAC vs the BIG10 is a differnet world. I think many want him for sentimental reasons as much as or more than talent reasons. Where as lets say we go with a guy who has proven he can win games. Les Miles, Chip Kelley, Bob Stoops,even Mike Leach. While these guys may not pull at our 90s heart strings they prove they can coach.

Also firing MR will cut all ties with the Calibraska recruiting and guessing we lose many current players as well. If we hire frost we would have a unproven coach, with low talent roster, going into one of the toughest schedules in the last 20 years. If he gets 3 or 4 wins next year are we all ok with that?

Like I said I would love Frost to come here and have success. This is another turing point in Neb football history. We need to make sure as much as possible Frost is the guy to get it done. If we make the wrong call one way or another, and Nebraska fails with the next coach. I don't see us coming back from that. I belive it is now or never for Neb football. Remember Bo was a coach "everyone" wanted too.

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Don't get me wrong I am all aboard the Frost train. As with any new coach hire there is no gaurantee, but taking a step back, has Frost really done enough in 2 years at UCF to prove he can compete with the Big boys winning in the the AAC vs the BIG10 is a differnet world. I think many want him for sentimental reasons as much as or more than talent reasons. Where as lets say we go with a guy who has proven he can win games. Les Miles, Chip Kelley, Bob Stoops,even Mike Leach. While these guys may not pull at our 90s heart strings they prove they can coach.

Also firing MR will cut all ties with the Calibraska recruiting and guessing we lose many current players as well. If we hire frost we would have a unproven coach, with low talent roster, going into one of the toughest schedules in the last 20 years. If he gets 3 or 4 wins next year are we all ok with that?

Like I said I would love Frost to come here and have success. This is another turing point in Neb football history. We need to make sure as much as possible Frost is the guy to get it done. If we make the wrong call one way or another, and Nebraska fails with the next coach. I don't see us coming back from that. I belive it is now or never for Neb football. Remember Bo was a coach "everyone" wanted too.

Is the Calibraska ties even that strong? Most of the so-called Calibraska recruits last year commited else where. Gebbia is the only CA 2017 commit on the team. There is only 6 CA scholarship kids on the roster, one of which (Lindsey) played his HS football in NV and family is from Ohio. And there is only one CA commit for 2018. Also, not one kid from CA on the roster currently starts. Please stop using "Calibraska" like its a big thing. It's not a thing or at least it's immaterial. Not some reason to try to keep Riley for

 

[Buicklife]

Don't get me wrong I am all aboard the Frost train. As with any new coach hire there is no gaurantee, but taking a step back, has Frost really done enough in 2 years at UCF to prove he can compete with the Big boys winning in the the AAC vs the BIG10 is a differnet world. I think many want him for sentimental reasons as much as or more than talent reasons. Where as lets say we go with a guy who has proven he can win games. Les Miles, Chip Kelley, Bob Stoops,even Mike Leach. While these guys may not pull at our 90s heart strings they prove they can coach.

Also firing MR will cut all ties with the Calibraska recruiting and guessing we lose many current players as well. If we hire frost we would have a unproven coach, with low talent roster, going into one of the toughest schedules in the last 20 years. If he gets 3 or 4 wins next year are we all ok with that?

Like I said I would love Frost to come here and have success. This is another turing point in Neb football history. We need to make sure as much as possible Frost is the guy to get it done. If we make the wrong call one way or another, and Nebraska fails with the next coach. I don't see us coming back from that. I belive it is now or never for Neb football. Remember Bo was a coach "everyone" wanted too.

This is the B1G West...we aren't the "big boys"

 

[dinglefritz]

Don't get me wrong I am all aboard the Frost train. As with any new coach hire there is no gaurantee, but taking a step back, has Frost really done enough in 2 years at UCF to prove he can compete with the Big boys winning in the the AAC vs the BIG10 is a differnet world. I think many want him for sentimental reasons as much as or more than talent reasons. Where as lets say we go with a guy who has proven he can win games. Les Miles, Chip Kelley, Bob Stoops,even Mike Leach. While these guys may not pull at our 90s heart strings they prove they can coach.

Also firing MR will cut all ties with the Calibraska recruiting and guessing we lose many current players as well. If we hire frost we would have a unproven coach, with low talent roster, going into one of the toughest schedules in the last 20 years. If he gets 3 or 4 wins next year are we all ok with that?

Like I said I would love Frost to come here and have success. This is another turing point in Neb football history. We need to make sure as much as possible Frost is the guy to get it done. If we make the wrong call one way or another, and Nebraska fails with the next coach. I don't see us coming back from that. I belive it is now or never for Neb football. Remember Bo was a coach "everyone" wanted too.

Obviously by my posting history, I have been a Riley supporter. The only thing that scares me about Frost is how short his track record is at running a program. IMO, he would be fine but you don't know until he's done it at a big time school and there's only one way to find out. It's a gamble either way. The AD's job is not as cut and dried as some on here would like it to be. There are millions of dollars at stake here. I am thankful that we hired an experienced AD with a steady hand to make the decisions that have to be made in the near future. I am also glad the RG included Tom in the AD selection process.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

Obviously by my posting history, I have been a Riley supporter. The only thing that scares me about Frost is how short his track record is at running a program. IMO, he would be fine but you don't know until he's done it at a big time school and there's only one way to find out. It's a gamble either way. The AD's job is not as cut and dried as some on here would like it to be. There are millions of dollars at stake here. I am thankful that we hired an experienced AD with a steady hand to make the decisions that have to be made in the near future. I am also glad the RG included Tom in the AD selection process.

On the flip side one could ask: what does Riley's very long track record show us? If you are honest in answering that question, and don't spin it by blaming the fact that he was at OSU for many years, then a reasonable person could conclude that what he has done so far at Nebraska is precisely what he has always done.
I am not criticizing you dingle for supporting Riley. I respect that point of view very much. But I hear all the time from various people that Frost has no real track record as a head coach. But in his limited time he has been successful. He HAS been a head coach now for almost two years and he has been successful. He was also successful as a coordinator. Meanwhile, Riley is doing here what he has always done. That is why I lean toward firing him. He just does not instill in me hope for the future or a sense of confidence that he actually knows how to put together a successful program. So I am willing to take that chance on Frost.

 

[Ewooc]

This is the B1G West...we aren't the "big boys"

Lol While true it is still bigger than 95% of the AAC schools

 

[Ewooc]

Obviously by my posting history, I have been a Riley supporter. The only thing that scares me about Frost is how short his track record is at running a program. IMO, he would be fine but you don't know until he's done it at a big time school and there's only one way to find out. It's a gamble either way. The AD's job is not as cut and dried as some on here would like it to be. There are millions of dollars at stake here. I am thankful that we hired an experienced AD with a steady hand to make the decisions that have to be made in the near future. I am also glad the RG included Tom in the AD selection process.

Thats right too. In order to get Frost and compete with the other programs wanting him. I am guessing we are going to need to pay him. 4-6 Million. That is high for a relatively unproven HC. We could probably pay 4-6 million and get a Les Miles or Chip Kelley who have more of a proven track record. Less risk from the AD stand point

 

[dinglefritz]

On the flip side one could ask: what does Riley's very long track record show us? If you are honest in answering that question, and don't spin it by blaming the fact that he was at OSU for many years, then a reasonable person could conclude that what he has done so far at Nebraska is precisely what he has always done.
I am not criticizing you dingle for supporting Riley. I respect that point of view very much. But I hear all the time from various people that Frost has no real track record as a head coach. But in his limited time he has been successful. He HAS been a head coach now for almost two years and he has been successful. He was also successful as a coordinator. Meanwhile, Riley is doing here what he has always done. That is why I lean toward firing him. He just does not instill in me hope for the future or a sense of confidence that he actually knows how to put together a successful program. So I am willing to take that chance on Frost.

IMO there is merit to both sides of the discussion. That is why I am glad we hired an experienced guy and included Tom in the discussion. IMO, Tom did what he felt he had to do in naming Frank so I'll cut him some slack in that. The Pelini hire was a horrible mistake and he admits that now. That said, his blessing is almost required for us to move forward whether that's retaining Riley or hiring somebody else. I'm fine with whatever the decision is because I think we have good honest guys with a good understanding of football making the decisions. I am just going to be patient and let things play out. Regardless of what happens I wish nothing but the best for Riley and his staff. I would love to sit down and just visit with the guy some time.

 

[dinglefritz]

Thats right too. In order to get Frost and compete with the other programs wanting him. I am guessing we are going to need to pay him. 4-6 Million. That is high for a relatively unproven HC.

The number I've heard between buyouts and salaries is between 15-20 MILLION dollars. It isn't just swapping Riley for Frost. This is HUGE money.

 

[Phillipe]

IMO there is merit to both sides of the discussion. That is why I am glad we hired an experienced guy and included Tom in the discussion. IMO, Tom did what he felt he had to do in naming Frank so I'll cut him some slack in that. The Pelini hire was a horrible mistake and he admits that now. That said, his blessing is almost required for us to move forward whether that's retaining Riley or hiring somebody else. I'm fine with whatever the decision is because I think we have good honest guys with a good understanding of football making the decisions. I am just going to be patient and let things play out. Regardless of what happens I wish nothing but the best for Riley and his staff. I would love to sit down and just visit with the guy some time.

I missed the quote where TO said hiring Pelini was a "horrible mistake". Do you have a link? That looks like a fun read.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

IMO there is merit to both sides of the discussion. That is why I am glad we hired an experienced guy and included Tom in the discussion. IMO, Tom did what he felt he had to do in naming Frank so I'll cut him some slack in that. The Pelini hire was a horrible mistake and he admits that now. That said, his blessing is almost required for us to move forward whether that's retaining Riley or hiring somebody else. I'm fine with whatever the decision is because I think we have good honest guys with a good understanding of football making the decisions. I am just going to be patient and let things play out. Regardless of what happens I wish nothing but the best for Riley and his staff. I would love to sit down and just visit with the guy some time.

Good post. I agree 100%

 

[dinglefritz]

I missed the quote where TO said hiring Pelini was a "horrible mistake". Do you have a link? That looks like a fun read.

He said it in more than one radio interview in the last year. I can't help it if you're too busy flipping burgers to listen to sports radio.

 

[Pennsyhusker_rivals246774]

I missed the quote where TO said hiring Pelini was a "horrible mistake". Do you have a link? That looks like a fun read.

I don't have a link but I do remember reading an interview with Osborne (King of the understatement! Lol) where he said, in typical Osborne style, that in retrospect the Pelini hire was probably not a good idea. The subtext being that Pelini was a jerk

 

[Phillipe]

He said it in more than one radio interview in the last year. I can't help it if you're too busy flipping burgers to listen to sports radio.

Yes, when I become more refined like you, I will start listening to sports talk radio in Nebraska. Well done.

Yeah, so you're gonna stick with the Burger King thing. Interesting choice. I hope you get a lot of mileage out of it. It certainly works better than to back up any of the nonsense you say.

 

[Ewooc]

The number I've heard between buyouts and salaries is between 15-20 MILLION dollars. It isn't just swapping Riley for Frost. This is HUGE money.

So how does that all work? I know we have to buy out Riley. Do we have to buy out all his assistants too? Do we have to buy out Frosts current contract with UCF or would Frost just be out that money because he left on his own

 

[dinglefritz]

So how does that all work? I know we have to buy out Riley. Do we have to buy out all his assistants too? Do we have to buy out Frosts current contract with UCF or would Frost just be out that money because he left on his own

Diaco would get his full salary. The other assistants would get something depending on when their contract was terminated I'm sure. Remember we're paying assistants and coordinators especially a bunch more money now than we did under Bo. Then Frost has a buyout clause to get out of his contract and I don't know exactly what that is. So essentially we would have to pay 2 full staffs at minimum for 2 years. UCF a lump sum, and then whatever the balance of Riley's contract is. It's a PILE of cash to change coaches. I just smirk at the posters on here saying "we have the money, open the checkbook". It's not that simple and I would bet a good share of them have never donated more than a hundred bucks to NU.

 

[inWV]

Not a total Frost homer, but as to the Frost/experience angle, Bob Stoops won a title (I know it was with Blakes recruits) in his second season of being a HC and only being a coordinator prior to that. Gus M made the BCS game at Auburn after one year HC at Arkie State.
Making the call on a college HC isn't exactly like a box of chocolates, but you don't know exactly what you'll get.

 

[jimbosc]

The number I've heard between buyouts and salaries is between 15-20 MILLION dollars. It isn't just swapping Riley for Frost. This is HUGE money.

This is UCF - no way Frost's buyout is that high. Matt Campbell's is $9.4M at ISU - year 1 salary $4M + $9.4 buyout + $2.5M for fired staff still on contract = $15.9M. That is a Power 5 school that intentionally wanted to make Campbell's contact hard to buy out.
UCF has not done that - Frost was not a sure thing when hired. They have thrown some money at Frost and staff (going forward) - but not restructured his deal.

 

[MOHUSKER]

Diaco would get his full salary. The other assistants would get something depending on when their contract was terminated I'm sure. Remember we're paying assistants and coordinators especially a bunch more money now than we did under Bo. Then Frost has a buyout clause to get out of his contract and I don't know exactly what that is. So essentially we would have to pay 2 full staffs at minimum for 2 years. UCF a lump sum, and then whatever the balance of Riley's contract is. It's a PILE of cash to change coaches. I just smirk at the posters on here saying "we have the money, open the checkbook". It's not that simple and I would bet a good share of them have never donated more than a hundred bucks to NU.

Taking one single factor makes that simple, Nebraska getting a full Big Ten share and the new TV deal means almost 30 million this year alone and 30 million each year forward. Money is NOT the deciding factor.

2017 Nebraska Big Ten Revenue- 22 million
2018 Nebraska Big Ten Revenue- 51.1 million

 

[dinglefritz]

This is UCF - no way Frost's buyout is that high. Matt Campbell's is $9.4M at ISU - year 1 salary $4M + $9.4 buyout + $2.5M for fired staff still on contract = $15.9M. That is a Power 5 school that intentionally wanted to make Campbell's contact hard to buy out.
UCF has not done that - Frost was not a sure thing when hired. They have thrown some money at Frost and staff (going forward) - but not restructured his deal.

I never stated that I knew what Frost's buyout was for sure. The issue isn't just Frost. It's Diaco. DL, Riley, the rest of Riley's staff, the rest of Frost's staff depending on their contracts. We'll be paying 2 staffs for a while in addition to Frost's buyout. Hell we're still paying Pelini.

 

[yunginsNU2]

The number I've heard between buyouts and salaries is between 15-20 MILLION dollars. It isn't just swapping Riley for Frost. This is HUGE money.

Also if fired...Riley would be what the the third coach being paid by the university and that doesnt include the new coach actually coaching games. Thats a lot of money being paid for no services.. i get that NU is geeting the full share finally but that money could be used for upgrades or better assistants.. just my .02

 

[chicolby]

Also if fired...Riley would be what the the third coach being paid by the university and that doesnt include the new coach actually coaching games. Thats a lot of money being paid for no services.. i get that NU is geeting the full share finally but that money could be used for upgrades or better assistants.. just my .02

To date, the misses on head coaches hasn't cost the program one penny. The stadium is still full. The Vals, Runzas and drinks are still selling. The parking spots are still occupied. The TV sets are still airing games and the athletic department is pulling in full share of B1G money.

I don't know what the average ticket price is, considering some seats are more than others, let's say $75 per ticket (don't beat me up if I'm off a bit here.). At 89,000 tickets sold, that equals, $6.675,000 per game. At 6 games per year that is somewhere north of $40 million in gate money alone. I recognize that the football team has to support other sports as well, but I'm trying to give an indication about the size of program we're talking about here, especially when you consider TV deals and athletic shoe deals put ticket money to shame.

The team can absolutely afford to pay a sizable salary to Frost or whomever the next coach is, even if they are still paying off fired coaches.

I have a strange suspicion that Riley will announce his retirement at the end of the year. I think there may still be some form of buy-out, but I don't think Riley is really loving his time at Nebraska. Of course, he's a professional and he's doing his job, but for a man in his 60s, who is already set financially, and frankly doesn't seem like the kind of guy to blow a lot of money anyway, I don't know if the pressure is worth it.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Don't get me wrong I am all aboard the Frost train. As with any new coach hire there is no gaurantee, but taking a step back, has Frost really done enough in 2 years at UCF to prove he can compete with the Big boys winning in the the AAC vs the BIG10 is a differnet world. I think many want him for sentimental reasons as much as or more than talent reasons. Where as lets say we go with a guy who has proven he can win games. Les Miles, Chip Kelley, Bob Stoops,even Mike Leach. While these guys may not pull at our 90s heart strings they prove they can coach.

Also firing MR will cut all ties with the Calibraska recruiting and guessing we lose many current players as well. If we hire frost we would have a unproven coach, with low talent roster, going into one of the toughest schedules in the last 20 years. If he gets 3 or 4 wins next year are we all ok with that?

Like I said I would love Frost to come here and have success. This is another turing point in Neb football history. We need to make sure as much as possible Frost is the guy to get it done. If we make the wrong call one way or another, and Nebraska fails with the next coach. I don't see us coming back from that. I belive it is now or never for Neb football. Remember Bo was a coach "everyone" wanted too.

IMO those Calibraska players are looking for a pro style program more so then MR. They are putting out the bucks to play 7x7 in hopes of playing on Sundays. If a player finds a program where he feels his skills and the education are a match then he will go there.

 

[Ewooc]

I have a strange suspicion that Riley will announce his retirement at the end of the year. I think there may still be some form of buy-out, but I don't think Riley is really loving his time at Nebraska. Of course, he's a professional and he's doing his job, but for a man in his 60s, who is already set financially, and frankly doesn't seem like the kind of guy to blow a lot of money anyway, I don't know if the pressure is worth it.

I have suspected the same thing. He just doesn't look like he is enjoying it. He looks so stressed during games and at pressers. He doesn't need the money. He seems like a stand up honest guy. I see him wanting to leave on his own terms with respect. He knows he is not getting the job done here. But I would understand if he takes the money as well. lol

 

[huskerfan1414]

While I agree many husker fans have frost as their first choice, I think it's a misconception that husker fans would be upset with anyone else on a large level, provided that coach has a good history.
For example, bob stoops. He won't be our coach, but if he was, people would get over the frost thing.
Same with Peterson, or Fuente or campbell
Just don't hire another coach with mike rileys record.

 

[Ewooc]

While I agree many husker fans have frost as their first choice, I think it's a misconception that husker fans would be upset with anyone else on a large level, provided that coach has a good history.
For example, bob stoops. He won't be our coach, but if he was, people would get over the frost thing.
Same with Peterson, or Fuente or campbell
Just don't hire another coach with mike rileys record.

You are correct. Frost is goal number 1 but if that doesn't happen the next guy better be top dog, big bucks hire.

 

[dinglefritz]

While I agree many husker fans have frost as their first choice, I think it's a misconception that husker fans would be upset with anyone else on a large level, provided that coach has a good history.
For example, bob stoops. He won't be our coach, but if he was, people would get over the frost thing.
Same with Peterson, or Fuente or campbell
Just don't hire another coach with mike rileys record.

There is a very vocal contingent that want nobody but Frost. IF we can Riley and hire anybody other than Frost, Tom had better come out and endorse the hire OR we'll never hear the end of it.

 

[huskerfan1414]

There is a very vocal contingent that want nobody but Frost. IF we can Riley and hire anybody other than Frost, Tom had better come out and endorse the hire OR we'll never hear the end of it.

Who?
Not being sarcastic.
Others who are in the frost and nobody else who are reading this please speak up!

 

[dinglefritz]

Who?
Not being sarcastic.
Others who are in the frost and nobody else who are reading this please speak up!

There's been several on here but hell Carriker said as much on the radio today. There will be former players that are pissed as hell if Frost isn't the first guy offered. Davison for one. Heck I'll be pissed if we pass him over for some middling MAC coach....oh wait that would be Frank. Frost is a very attractive candidate who checks a lot of boxes and is a great fit. Probably the best fit out there anyone could imagine. He's coached under some of the best coaches in college football. He played for Bill Walsh AND Tom Osborne. He's won early and often. When you look in the dictionary under "up and comer" there's a picture of Scott Frost. I still think it's a gamble but so are any of the other names I've heard and IF he comes and wins he would probably be our coach for a couple of decades.

 

[huskerfan1414]

There's been several on here but hell Carriker said as much on the radio today. There will be former players that are pissed as hell if Frost isn't the first guy offered. Davison for one. Heck I'll be pissed if we pass him over for some middling MAC coach....oh wait that would be Frank. Frost is a very attractive candidate who checks a lot of boxes and is a great fit. Probably the best fit out there anyone could imagine. He's coached under some of the best coaches in college football. He played for Bill Walsh AND Tom Osborne. He's won early and often. When you look in the dictionary under "up and comer" there's a picture of Scott Frost. I still think it's a gamble but so are any of the other names I've heard and IF he comes and wins he would probably be our coach for a couple of decades.

We will see.

 

[dinglefritz]

We will see.

In the NFL he was coached by Belichik, Gruden and Parcells.....Good heavens. He coached under Snyder and Chip in college. I think he's probably learned something. He's been a DC in college and an OC in college before becoming a head coach. The dude has an amazing resume. It's still a gamble but man if we can Riley what better gamble?

 

[inWV]

There are proven coaches that have won at a high level over a period of years. Saban, Urban, Chip K, Visor Boy back in the day. There are other coaches that have won, but have also been a bit up and down. List of several SEC coaches. For every mid-major coach or P5 coordinator that has come up and made a good go at a P5 team, there is one or more that didn't make it.
At this point, Frost isn't any more or less of a risk than any coach that comes short of a proven winner.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

In the NFL he was coached by Belichik, Gruden and Parcells.....Good heavens. He coached under Snyder and Chip in college. I think he's probably learned something. He's been a DC in college and an OC in college before becoming a head coach. The dude has an amazing resume. It's still a gamble but man if we can Riley what better gamble?

don't believe he coached under Snyder. It was the dufus and Frost bailed for NI.

 

[dinglefritz]

don't believe he coached under Snyder. It was the dufus and Frost bailed for NI.

You are correct. Snyder stepped down after 05, Frost was there in 06. Well he's seen how not to do things then too.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Diaco would get his full salary. The other assistants would get something depending on when their contract was terminated I'm sure. Remember we're paying assistants and coordinators especially a bunch more money now than we did under Bo. Then Frost has a buyout clause to get out of his contract and I don't know exactly what that is. So essentially we would have to pay 2 full staffs at minimum for 2 years. UCF a lump sum, and then whatever the balance of Riley's contract is. It's a PILE of cash to change coaches. I just smirk at the posters on here saying "we have the money, open the checkbook". It's not that simple and I would bet a good share of them have never donated more than a hundred bucks to NU.

Yep it's going to be expensive if Riley is fired in November then between Bo and him and Diaco it would be around 9 to 10 million. Frost has a 3 million buyout so 12 to 13 million plus depending on what we owe the other assistants.

I guess the AD will not be giving out non-athletic scholarships for awhile

 

[dinglefritz]

Yep it's going to be expensive if Riley is fired in November then between Bo and him and Diaco it would be around 9 to 10 million. Frost has a 3 million buyout so 12 to 13 million plus depending on what we owe the other assistants.

I guess the AD will not be giving out non-athletic scholarships for awhile

Frost has a $3M buyout IF he's FIRED per the Orlando Sentinel. The OS doesn't report the buyout for him if he wants to leave. I've seen internet sources with the buyout as high as $10M if he leaves on his own accord. I don't think that part of his contract had to be public record because it doesn't involve the school paying out any money. EDIT: another sports page says Frost's out would cost several times more than what Riley's would cost NU IF we were to fire him. So I've seen at least 3 sites that put it at somewhere around $10M and the Orlando Sentinel doesn't report his out. I see one site that looks sketchy which doesn't list a buyout if he's fired and they use the same formula that the OS lists if Frost were fired.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

Frost has a $3M buyout IF he's FIRED per the Orlando Sentinel. The OS doesn't report the buyout for him if he wants to leave. I've seen internet sources with the buyout as high as $10M if he leaves on his own accord. I don't think that part of his contract had to be public record because it doesn't involve the school paying out any money. EDIT: another sports page says Frost's out would cost several times more than what Riley's would cost NU IF we were to fire him. So I've seen at least 3 sites that put it at somewhere around $10M and the Orlando Sentinel doesn't report his out. I see one site that looks sketchy which doesn't list a buyout if he's fired and they use the same formula that the OS lists if Frost were fired.

contract

only one year at 850,000 that is the way I read it also but then it is a letter of understanding

 

[dinglefritz]

contract

only one year at 850,000 that is the way I read it also but then it is a letter of understanding

That's 2015. He got a contract extension in May that increased his salary to 2M and increased the school's buyout if they fire him to 1/2 of his remaining contract (4.125M) or 3M whichever is less. Multiple web news sites put his buyout to take a new job at a number near or at $10M. It is supposedly over 3x Riley's buyout if we fire him. I would assume we would have to pay Scott over 3M and maybe as much as 5M if we were to hire him and near $10M to UCF for the honor.

 

[Toms Wife]

I get it that Frost does have a bunch of winning head coaching experience. It would be nice to see a coach who in recent times has consistently won at a Power 5 school come here. However, there are about ten to twelve of those guys and nearly all aren't interested...with one exception.

Pac Ten: Shaw, Peterson

SEC: Saban

ACC: Swinny, Fisher, Richt

Big Ten: Urban, Franklin, Dantonio

Big Twelve: Patterson, Snyder, Gundy

 

[SnohomishRed]

That's 2015. He got a contract extension in May that increased his salary to 2M and increased the school's buyout if they fire him to 1/2 of his remaining contract (4.125M) or 3M whichever is less. Multiple web news sites put his buyout to take a new job at a number near or at $10M. It is supposedly over 3x Riley's buyout if we fire him. I would assume we would have to pay Scott over 3M and maybe as much as 5M if we were to hire him and near $10M to UCF for the honor.

I find very hard to believe Frost or any other young coach would agree to that large of a buyout at a stepping stone school. It would be helpful if you would post some links