Playing Devils Advocate
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Get real, man. Who really cares about the very vocal contingent, whomever they are? Will they stop buying tickets and Husker clothing? This board is nothing but a bunch of vocal contingents none of whom have a clue about the best choice for HC.
The only guy’s opinion I care about is that of Moos. Hopefully he gets it right or we will start another five year plan in five years...or less in the case of Riley. But I doubt Moos loses a wink of sleep worrying about vocal contingents or silent contingents.
IT IS THE SCHOOL BUYOUT.. It's what the school has to PAY him if they fire him. Per the Orlando Sentinel it's one half of his remaining contract (which would be 4.125M) OR 3M whichever is less. The COACH's buyout is what he would have to pay them to get out of his contract and that is not listed. It's different and the USA Today article does not list that. The SCHOOL's buyout in most cases for a public university has to be published as it is a liability to the school. What the coach has to PAY is NOT a liability so it does not have to be reported. LOOK AT THE DESCRIPTION ON THEIR WEBSITE OF WHAT THAT COLUMN IS IN YOUR OWN FREAKING LINK. It's what the schools owe them IF they FIRE THEM.
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You wanna listen to Jason Peter for the next 3 years (cuz that's all the next guy will get if he doesn't have Tom's blessing) ***** and moan about how they're soft and don't do it the Nebraska way? It's him, some other former players and whole bunch of well...I'm not gonna start another pissing match. You know who they are.
I think that is what I said so save me BOLD AND CAPS
I DON'T NEED YOUR CAPS AND BOLD TO AGREE WITH ME
so are you agreeing with me or him.? You replied to him. He thinks it's the amount NU would have to pay UCF and that is incorrect.
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USA doesn't say what the coaches have to pay if they leave and I don't know where you read NU into anything concerning Frost leaving.
Just because you don't want it to be real doesn't mean it isnt.
Take off the goggles Bubbles...
We were discussing now much Frost would have to pay to leave UCF and multiple people have posted links to the USA Today article indicating "yep that's his buyout" which in fact is not true for him IF he decides to leave UCF. You replied to his link by saying "I agree". I took that to mean you agree that is what Frost has to pay UCF. IF you don't believe that then you need to be more clear in how you respond. I make mistakes and own up to them. You posted a similar link to newsday and then deleted it after you realized it's a sketchy website. I dislike the idea that we have money so it's no big deal to just spend it at any cost. It's how trustees bankrupt an organization (city, church, school you name it) and then have to go begging for more when an anticipated revenue stream dries up. I'm one of the 1%ers that get hit up any time there's a want. I want people to be informed of the costs of going after Frost. Not saying we shouldn't. He's my first choice if we can Riley.
so just to be clear on this you believe that Frost and his agent negotiated a contract that pays the university up to say 10 million if he leaves and only pays Frost 3 Million if he is fired? Not only that it was an extension to the original deal after he had showed he could win, and he got what? A 300,000 raise
That would be one of the worst contracts ever. The only way I could see that being true is if Frost truly wants to stay and finish his career at UCF
Exactly. Nobody is going to sign a contract worth 4.5 million with a 10 million dollar penalty for leaving early. Just because it is on multiple web sites doesn't make it a fact. I've also seen it on multiple web sites that if MR goes 6-6 we will keep him.
That is what I like the most. If he finds success here, I don't see him leaving. So to be able to have a coach and system in place for 20+ years is very intersting.
I didn't say it was fact. In fact I said that as far as we know, Frost's actual buyout is not publicly available. I would bet that Ronnie and Moos know what it is though. 5-6 years ago, McElwain signed a deal with a $5 million dollar poison pill with CSU. I would be very surprised if Frost's out is less than McElwain's was. Salaries and buyouts haven't gone down since then. They do it to show commitment to the university and to get a better current cash salary for themselves and their staff. They know that IF they get to be a hot commodity somebody will pick up the tab. If they don't, they've taken home more money. In coaching you get what you can when you can. There's no guarantee you'll have a job next year.
I wouldn’t even recognize Jason Peter’s voice and don’t know who “they” are. The only noisy voices I hear are on this board. Maybe that’s an advantage of living 1000 miles from Lincoln. I trust Moos will do the right thing.
you get some pretty ignorant callers to sports radio talk shows and Sports Nightly who go off about the walk on program and "the Nebraska way" etc. Jason Peter goes on a rant on Big Red Wrap Up or a radio show weekly it seems like and he's all over Frost's bones right now. Personally Frost is the only option for me right now IF we make a change. We had better at least kick his tires if we make a move.
I think the whole "short track record" thing was an important point when Frost was kind of a Husker only fanboy crush.
We could sit around and legitimately argue experience, vice bringing in maybe a Mullen or a Campbell or a coach with a bit longer of a resume.
But since Frost is "the name" now, you have other fan bases that don't care that he's coached less than 20 games, they are still egging their AD on to throw $5 million at him.
Frost's resume doesn't stop the national talking heads from pimping him either.
Once the cat was out of the bag about how good this guy might be, the length of resume became pretty irrelevant.
We could sit around and legitimately argue experience, vice bringing in maybe a Mullen or a Campbell or a coach with a bit longer of a resume.
But since Frost is "the name" now, you have other fan bases that don't care that he's coached less than 20 games, they are still egging their AD on to throw $5 million at him.
Frost's resume doesn't stop the national talking heads from pimping him either.
Once the cat was out of the bag about how good this guy might be, the length of resume became pretty irrelevant.