Playoff is a JOKE

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I don’t have a problem making a provision to include an undefeated team but there was no (good) reason to include either of these two.
 
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If you want to play that game, Miami shouldn't have been, that's just a fact. They lost at home to Louisville. The G5 should only get 1 team, and that should've been Tulane. JMU and Miami's spots should've gone to Vandy and BYU, but they don't put butts in the seats.
 

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If you want to play that game, Miami shouldn't have been, that's just a fact. They lost at home to Louisville. The G5 should only get 1 team, and that should've been Tulane. JMU and Miami's spots should've gone to Vandy and BYU, but they don't put butts in the seats.
Miami just got a MAMMOTH win on the road in front of 100K people so there went that argument.
 

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There’s no perfect solution. The games involving the G5 team(s) probably won’t be good most years, but you can’t just straight up ban them from getting their shot while still saying they’re part of the same division. It’s really no different than the 16 seeds being part of the basketball tournament even though there’s teams left out of the field who would probably beat them. At some cutoff point, you just accept that the teams being left out weren’t championship quality anyway and live with some first round blowouts as part of trying to maintain a system that gives everyone a chance to prove it on the field.
 

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Mammoth. Beat a team that didn't beat a single currently ranked sec team. Miami lost at home to Louisville and away to SMU. You lose 2 games in the acc, you shouldn't get it. Tulane beat the acc champ going away.
The thread says the two games werent worth watching. They werent. Has zero to do with Miami but guess what? That was a competitive game and they actually won on the road. Take them out and put Vandy or BYU in. Whatever. Tulane and JM had zero business in the playoffs. Waste of space.
 
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There’s no perfect solution. The games involving the G5 team(s) probably won’t be good most years, but you can’t just straight up ban them from getting their shot while still saying they’re part of the same division. It’s really no different than the 16 seeds being part of the basketball tournament even though there’s teams left out of the field who would probably beat them. At some cutoff point, you just accept that the teams being left out weren’t championship quality anyway and live with some first round blowouts as part of trying to maintain a system that gives everyone a chance to prove it on the field.

Just go based on ranking. If a g5 is ranked high enough, good for them. There cant be participation trophies.

Vandy and Texas both should've been in over nd imo. Either of those teams would've been a real problem.

Nd literally played no one. Plus they have that completely ridiculous side agreement with the championship committee. That side agreement should absolutely be the subject of a lawsuit.
 
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We’ll inevitably see a split. Where G5s do their own thing or maybe they join up with the FCS tournament.

I feel like there’s great football played at that level and the tournament is actually the correct model of how to do things.

FCS maybe needs to expand to take on some G5s.

P4(more like P3) playoffs needs to expand. Texas, USC, Michigan, ND all probably need to get in. Would’ve been better games, plus those are gigantic brands.
 
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If the goal of the committee is to truly determine the best team in the country, then letting GO5 teams in is counter to their goal and is essentially just trying to be politically correct. ND was mentioned but Vandy is also a very competitive team that should have a chance to compete IMO.
Maybe the lopsided scores will have a impact in the future
 

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I think NIL & transferring every year is widening the gap between P4 & G% and even P2 with P3 & P4. Will only get bigger imo. Need another subdivision between BCS & FCS for G5.
 
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UKWildcats1987

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It should be the 12 best teams. Eliminate conference champion bids. I guess u have to leave 1 charity g5 bid due to legal issues apparently.
 

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Let the mid majors have their own national championship bracket. Wasted picks with Tulne and JMU.
I don’t know why they don’t just call it D2 and go from there. That’s what they are
 

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You are correct, 2 of Vandy, ND or Texas should have been there instead of the 2 group teams.
I agree with you and others - however, it's obvious it is about money, TV ratings and NIL now. So, the more logical answer is rather than stick with the ridicoulous 12 team playoff number - go to 24! It is now going to be like the NCAA Basketball tournament. Instead of fighting it - make is something fun and more football for more programs to get excited about - even though we all know who will be playing late in the "playoffs". We now have 47 - yes 47 football bowl games. Do you complain about all of them? If you are a Kentucky - you like to go to fun places and have fun at a bowl city. So, make it fun and give more people a chance.

Make the playoffs 24 teams! That will be 23 bowl games! Seed the top 8. Then pair off the other 16 with winners advancing. The entire season becomes more meaningful as many teams will be in the hunt until the last couple of weeks of the season. Let all the conference champions in the playoffs that are now eligible - but seed every team. It really will not make the season any longer for most teams - plus as everyone says - who does't like more college football!

More money raised, the minor bowls are no longer totally minor and fewer opt outs of game by star players - as their teams will have a chance to advance and win the National title. If everyone just thinks about this a little - it can be a great thing for all involved - except the top teams who think they are the only ones who deserve to be playing. Just think - the SEC would probably get 10 teams in the playoffs! It was kind of obvious yesterday that poor old Kentucky was better than Tulane. Not saying UK should have been in the 24 team field - but saying that strength of schedule and conferences do mean something.

Go Big Blue!
 

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I think NIL & transferring every year is widening the gap between P4 & G% and even P2 with P3 & P4. Will only get bigger imo. Need another subdivision between BCS & FCS for G5.
Have thought this for a good while. Last year's final four was OSU, Penn State, Texas and Notre Dame, all with huge fanbases and loads of money.

This year, the final 8 include OSU, Bama, Georgia, Miami, Oregon - all same type of schools as last year, plus Mississippi (lots of solid tradition plus SEC $$$), and the two newbies on the block, IU and Tex Tech. But Tech has an oil sugar daddy that basically bought and paid for their roster as well, and seems like IU (like most large B10 schools) has buckets of money too. Don't be surprised if the final 4 this year is OSU, Bama, Georgia and Oregon.

Even when a school in G5 or the lower levels of P4 gets lucky and has a few star players, unless the rules are changed substantially (highly unlikely) it will be well nigh impossible to hang on to them more than one year if a much richer school makes them an offer they can't refuse.
 
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If the goal of the committee is to truly determine the best team in the country, then letting GO5 teams in is counter to their goal and is essentially just trying to be politically correct. ND was mentioned but Vandy is also a very competitive team that should have a chance to compete IMO.
Maybe the lopsided scores will have a impact in the future

Partially blame the ACC. If they used the 2 highest ranked teams to play in the ACC Championship game, one of the G5 schools would not have been in it. The stupid tie breaker allowed Duke in the Championship game. It should have been UVA vs Miami.
 
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Or better yet make it 8 teams max. I think a 4 team playoff was the right number myself.

I dont have a problem with 4, 8, or 16, I am just not a big fan of the 4 byes. But regardless of how many the number is the first 1 or 2 out are going to complain. The 2 group teams both gave poor showings. Now I can't tell you if ND, Texas or Vandy would have been better, but I think they would .
 

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Miami won, won even with a bunch of mistakes. Like leaving 9 pts. on the board with shanked FG's. They overcame that and proved they were the better team. It sucks, but its the truth.
Replace JMI and Tulane with any of Texas, ND or Vandy and I would have watched those games on TNT, as would have millions.
 

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I also like the thought of the mid-majors having their own tournament. My vote is for 16 D1 and 16 mid-majors (Call them D1-A). That gives all of those smaller schools a legitimate shot at winning a title instead of getting thrown to the wolves.
 
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If you want to play that game, Miami shouldn't have been, that's just a fact. They lost at home to Louisville. The G5 should only get 1 team, and that should've been Tulane. JMU and Miami's spots should've gone to Vandy and BYU, but they don't put butts in the seats.

Wilson's a wildman........

a man in a suit and tie is laughing while sitting at a table .