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For those of you still hitting the vape, packed with Crimson crack...the only realistic path: LSU loses @Bama and then again at Kyle Field for their last game of the year (more likely, IMO, then Bama losing at home to LSU and then @Aubie). That doesn't happen then both Bama and LSU get in along with Clemson and tOSU And I'm still not sure we'd go over a 1-loss Oregon or Utah team in that scenario.

The winner of UGA and UF is not beating Bama or LSU in the SEC CCG so neither figure into the calculus here (and should that extremely unlikely upset happen, then its still two SEC teams).

And above all, we win out because Grinch goes back to the aggressive scheme he employed against UT, because the D is the same personnel as last year (which we were reminded of yesterday), and its scheme that gives them a fighting chance.
 
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I haven’t given up hope but the odds are very slim we make it even by winning out. If either Oregon or Utah win out they will have just as good of an argument to get in as our Sooners would. However lets be real as if LSU/Alabama have only 1 loss the PAc12 and B12 is going to get left out.

this is why I have an issue with only a 4 team playoff that could allow human opinion to allow a non conf champ to get in over a conf. champ with identical records.

Its why if people want playoff teams selected by humans the field needs to go to 8 to include the 5 P5 conf champs , 1 NP5 if undefeated or 1 loss, and 2 WC using some kind of scoring metric.
 
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As an outside fan, there's still a long ways to go and it's awfully hard to go undefeated anymore. Most of the rivalry games still to play. OSU still has Michigan and PSU. The SEC will beat each other up. The only one I see getting in for sure right now is Clemson who has a joke of a schedule in the ACC. Still not over for you guys.
 
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Phaeded said:
For those of you still hitting the vape, packed with Crimson crack...the only realistic path: LSU loses @Bama and then again at Kyle Field for their last game of the year (more likely, IMO, then Bama losing at home to LSU and then @Aubie). That doesn't happen then both Bama and LSU get in along with Clemson and tOSU And I'm still not sure we'd go over a 1-loss Oregon or Utah team in that scenario.

The winner of UGA and UF is not beating Bama or LSU in the SEC CCG so neither figure into the calculus here (and should that extremely unlikely upset happen, then its still two SEC teams).

And above all, we win out because Grinch goes back to the aggressive scheme he employed against UT, because the D is the same personnel as last year (which we were reminded of yesterday), and its scheme that gives them a fighting chance.
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But, OU is favored by 24 against KSU, so they will be undefeated this season.
Even though it looks like everything is clear, there is still a reason they play the games.
 
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Just win out and let's see what happens. Yeah, there's still a chance OU can make the CFP, but right now looks like three slots are going to be taken by Clemson, tOSU and the Bama/LSU winner. Even if the Pac12 and Big12 champs have only one loss, my gut tells me the Big12 and Pac12 get jumped by the Bama/LSU loser.
 
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Schoonerman said:
Just win out and let's see what happens. Yeah, there's still a chance OU can make the CFP, but right now looks like three slots are going to be taken by Clemson, tOSU and the Bama/LSU winner. Even if the Pac12 and Big12 champs have only one loss, my gut tells me the Big12 and Pac12 get jumped by the Bama/LSU loser.
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That is certainly something to hope for, Schoonerman.
Right now, I see a team in transition: with a defense that has to reinvent itself, a young offensive line still trying to come together as a unit and many young players getting playing time and making rookie mistakes. So I'm now focused on whatever improvements this team can make in these last 4, or more, games....aside from winning out the rest of the way.
Even if things work out for OU getting into the 4-team playoff, I don't see a championship coming. LSU, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and possibly Georgia and Florida I regard as better teams than OU.
So, here's hoping OU wins however many games left this season and letting the chips fall where they may.
 
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I would say there is practically no way OU makes it into the playoffs even if they win out. The Kstate is a bad loss and other teams will have better losses and better schedules. Looks like this year its going to bite us in the butt. Anyway, do we really want to make the playoffs and get trounced again? I can't see us playing with Ohio State or Bama.
 
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OUnabomber said:
I would say there is practically no way OU makes it into the playoffs even if they win out. The Kstate is a bad loss and other teams will have better losses and better schedules. Looks like this year its going to bite us in the butt. Anyway, do we really want to make the playoffs and get trounced again? I can't see us playing with Ohio State or Bama.
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The KSU loss could turn into a good loss if they win out but either way I agree that OU chances of getting in even if KSU does go 10-2 or even 9-3 are slim to none.
 
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IF we win out I think its quite possible OU could get in. Here is my take on how and why. If some of the undefeated teams slip up and drop, OU keeps winning and wins the Big 12 I don't see how the Playoff Committee would keep us out if there is a chance to pit OU with Hurts vs his former team granted Bama makes it in.
I think that matchup would be our only way in. How could they possibly not want that game and the attention it would bring?
Just a thought however I am one of those that does not think we belong there, at least not the team I saw Sat.
Too bad changes were not made on the Defensive side of the ball before Mayfield, Murray and Hurts came along.
 
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OUSOONER67 said:
IF we win out I think its quite possible OU could get in. Here is my take on how and why. If some of the undefeated teams slip up and drop, OU keeps winning and wins the Big 12 I don't see how the Playoff Committee would keep us out if there is a chance to pit OU with Hurts vs his former team granted Bama makes it in.
I think that matchup would be our only way in. How could they possibly not want that game and the attention it would bring?
Just a thought however I am one of those that does not think we belong there, at least not the team I saw Sat.
Too bad changes were not made on the Defensive side of the ball before Mayfield, Murray and Hurts came along.
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Agree with that last sentence. Remember when some used to be terrified of losing either Stoops because of the John Blake effect?
 
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I got made fun of, for pulling for UT against LSU. Not that it mattered. But had the Horns pulled it out, we'd still have had a fighting chance for the CCG.

Sometimes my brain wins out over emotions. That's much easier when the Horns' opponent has an SEC logo on their shirt, especially LSU.
 
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Whaddaya mean a chance, we'll be in the CCG unless we lose two of the last four...
 
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Whaddaya mean a chance, we'll be in the CCG unless we lose two of the last four...
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Close....but no cigar....yet.
If Baylor were to beat OU and not lose more than 2 Conf games and KSU wins out, BU and KSU will be your B12 CCG participants.
This is a scenario where OU only loses one more game.
 
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iasooner1 said:
Whaddaya mean a chance, we'll be in the CCG unless we lose two of the last four...
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Not if we lose to Baylor. If KState wins out, and Baylor beats us, then the best we could do is a tie with Baylor and KState with two losses each. With a loss to both of the other teams, we'd be the odd team out.

Right now, KState is playing the best ball in the conference, not just against us. They have an HC used to winning championships. They are hard to play against. They have a tougher schedule left. They go to Texas and Tech. Host West Virginia and Iowa State.
 
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