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As I said and you have kind of prove my point. The only time these "moderate muslims" take a stand is when it is being done to them. Outside of that, they sing in the streets when it happens to us.
The president calling them "Islamic Terrorist" is not the tipping point but, it goes a long way in facing the facts for what they are.
Article from Forbes on the possible effect ending long-term unemployment insurance had on the data (similar to the energy policy):
Unemployment Is Dropping, Thanks To A Republican Policy In January, in his annual State of the Union address, President Obama bragged that "our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999." It's great news, to be sure. But according to a new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research, the recent improvement in the labor market may be due to a policy change that Obama adamantly opposed: ending extended unemployment benefits.[/I]
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Unemployment Is Dropping, Thanks To A Republican Policy In January, in his annual State of the Union address, President Obama bragged that "our economy is growing and creating jobs at the fastest pace since 1999." It's great news, to be sure. But according to a new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research, the recent improvement in the labor market may be due to a policy change that Obama adamantly opposed: ending extended unemployment benefits.[/I]
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if only the shooter had been a conservative, the truth could've been told. Somethings never change......
Like the guy who killed people at the DC family group because he was mad at Chick Fil-A and the OWS guys that were caught planning to blow up bridges and the GOP convention, he will be forgotten very quickly.
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Well I guess that proves what we all have been suspecting - Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post and Bill Nye the Science Guy hate Muslims!
Neil deGrasse Tyson? Seriously?
Facts are facts on how such tragedies are treated by the media. When James Holmes shot up the Colorado theater a national media member's first reaction was to do a name search of local Tea Party members to find a match. And then even worst was the leap to judgement, instantly, after the Gabby Giffords mass shooting.Originally posted by Deeeefense:
Well I guess that proves what we all have been suspecting - Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post and Bill Nye the Science Guy hate Muslims!
Neil deGrasse Tyson? Seriously?
Tea Parties!
Palin's gunsights!
Yesterday, after we find out the UNC shooter was a liberal atheist and had several run-ins about parking with the victims, their friend goes on CNN and blames the shooting on Fox and Bobby Jindal hate toward Muslims. Ishitunot.
Sounds as reasonable as some arguments we see on here.
1. I have.
2. The entirety of my political expression does not consist of The Paddock. Nor are my posts here a comprehensive outlook of all things political. See 3.
3. Paddock skews heavily conservative, and I pick and choose the issues I discuss. So I could be the 1000th to argue with Deefense or CardKilla or whoever, or engage in selected discussions with the other 85%. I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage in every topic, sorry.
~ 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Maybe painting with such a broad brush isn't helpful. The reality is that there are way too many Muslims that are sympathetic towards terrorist groups. And there are also many (anywhere from the vast majority to a majority... give or take some because polls vary wildly by region, question, and when the survey is taken) that abhor and reject the hijacking of their religion. Similar to my disgust with groups like Westboro Baptist (not equating the two, so everyone calm down... I know how the Paddock works
). Speaking in these absolutes, besides being literally untrue, I'm just not sure how it's supposed to accomplish anything. It's great AM radio (and I guess Internet message board) fodder. Again, I disagree that the president calling them Islamic terrorists does anything helpful. Okay, so you "fac[e] facts." Now what? "Hey, moderates, your religion is terrorism" doesn't seem like a great way to engage. Islamic is literally what the terrorists want to be perceived as, and it provides a facade (however fake) of legitimacy. Removing their attempted legitimacy and exposing them for the cowardly murderers that they are seems like a far better strategy. I really just don't understand the desire of so many to make this a religious war (a Crusdade?).
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That strategy has failed and is making things worse. Yemen has helped prove that. How can anyone really defend Obama's position on this after that? Seriously, the only people who can are the koolaid drinkers and agenda driven lemmings. While our enemies around the world are terrorizing, raping, and killing people including American hostages, the clown in the white house is making silly videos trying to make fun of his critics while trying to save his legacy (Obamacare). These enemies are islamic and muslims so, call them what and who they are and deal with it. If you and Obama are afraid or in support of these idiots, step aside and let someone else lead.Originally posted by Big_Blue79:
~ 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Maybe painting with such a broad brush isn't helpful. The reality is that there are way too many Muslims that are sympathetic towards terrorist groups. And there are also many (anywhere from the vast majority to a majority... give or take some because polls vary wildly by region, question, and when the survey is taken) that abhor and reject the hijacking of their religion. Similar to my disgust with groups like Westboro Baptist (not equating the two, so everyone calm down... I know how the Paddock works
Again, I disagree that the president calling them Islamic terrorists does anything helpful. Okay, so you "fac[e] facts." Now what? "Hey, moderates, your religion is terrorism" doesn't seem like a great way to engage. Islamic is literally what the terrorists want to be perceived as, and it provides a facade (however fake) of legitimacy. Removing their attempted legitimacy and exposing them for the cowardly murderers that they are seems like a far better strategy. I really just don't understand the desire of so many to make this a religious war (a Crusdade?).
IDGAF if it's Obama, Bush, Ronald Reagan's ghost, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, you, me, or The Gimp from Pulp Fiction, so save the "koolaid drinker" attack. I just want the best solution, period. So nice try.
And screw you for even insinuating I support terrorists, btw. I kept a civil tone and asked questions, you lobbed personal insults. Truly a warrior move. I'm done with this conversation.
The best solution has not been tried yet imo. Strike a nerve did I? It was by design. I said if you or Obama were afraid or in support. I seriously question his motives concerning this and the welfare of this nation. To me, anyone who supports his position on this is either in line with his stance (which is completely wrong) or truly ignorant to what is going on and I don't mean that as an insult. That last part simply means that people really cannot see the harm in his strategy here. Again, appeasment never works in the real world.
Is there anything more pointless than arguing over whether the dude who shot the UNC students committed a hate crime? He's never going to step foot outside of prison for the rest of his life. In the words of Hillary Clinton, "what difference does it make" whether he killed them over parking or because they were Muslims.
After reflection and sobering up (one too many last night) I must apologize for insinuating you siding with terrorist. I do not believe you would and it was a stupid comment. I do however believe that Obama really does not have a clue as to how to proceed. I have very strong feelings for this country and fear for her status going forward. Mine is a position defensive in nature and somtimes comes on too strong.
Good to see the Secretaries of State of various states testifying to Congress that Obama's excutive dictate of amnesty will bring in a new era of unchecked voter fraud.
But, I'm sure again we'll hear from Defense and the rest of the lefty dipshits on here that voter fraud doesn't actually exist.
But, I'm sure again we'll hear from Defense and the rest of the lefty dipshits on here that voter fraud doesn't actually exist.
I don't know the full scoop on it, but it has to with that leader meeting all the criteria for the anti-Christ. Christian moms are outraged!!!
How is Tsipras any different than 90% of American liberals? Other than the fact that he leads Greece.
I have no clue. Don't know anything about him other than he is an Atheist and now is being hailed as the devil reincarnate.
Don't forget the massive amounts of tax fraud Obama has unlocked for illegals! Now with Obama issued SS#'s, illegals can not only file taxes, THEY CAN FILE BACK TAXES AS WELL! And thanks to EITC welfare program, can get tens of thousands in free Obama money! Hell fire, this deal is so fracked up illegals are gonna be claiming their children back home in Mexico or Guatemala or El Salvadore as being US dependents.
All about creating a whole new class of dependent Democrat voters, since the ones already here are not behaving as they should at the polls all the time.
That's not even tax fraud. That's perfectly legal.
Edit: The tax filing part is perfectly legal. Who they claim as dependents may not be.
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Edit: The tax filing part is perfectly legal. Who they claim as dependents may not be.
This post was edited on 2/13 8:58 AM by Bill Cosby
Howard Dean saying that he questions Scott Walker's ability to be President because he didn't graduate from College. He has proven he is more than qualified to be a Governor without a College Degree. It only disqualifies him from being President in the eyes of certain Democrats.
I was thinking about that the other day.
Obama's only accomplishment was he went to a fancy college and law school. That was all he ever did other than getting elected to office.
He's been an utter failure as POTUS in every sense of the word. But by golly, he was the editor of the Havard Law Review.
Scott Walker on the other hand made something of himself in spite of not having a college degree.
I really hope if Walker is running for President, the left harps on how much of an idiot and a loser he is because he didn't go to a fancy college.
Obama's only accomplishment was he went to a fancy college and law school. That was all he ever did other than getting elected to office.
He's been an utter failure as POTUS in every sense of the word. But by golly, he was the editor of the Havard Law Review.
Scott Walker on the other hand made something of himself in spite of not having a college degree.
I really hope if Walker is running for President, the left harps on how much of an idiot and a loser he is because he didn't go to a fancy college.
I'm waiting for those that attacked the "community organizer" to start defending the "warranty salesman".
Joe Biden graduated from College. Anyone really think that makes him qualified to be President?
I think the real issue with Scott Walker is not so much his lack of a bachelors degree, but rather how frequently he repeats his desire of returning to college for degree completion. Walker dropped out his senior year at Marquette. People grow tired of the rhetoric because numerous options exist and have been out there for many, many years. Coincidentally, Arnold Schwarzenegger completed his own undergrad degree via correspondence from University of Wisconsin-Stout in 1979.
To be fair, Walker is also a huge non-traditional education advocate, and has pushed distance learning initiatives through the University of Wisconsin system. He knows about available options, but appears too lazy to act, preferring instead to wait until the "right program comes along".
I was hired at my present employer 10 years ago this month, and said in the interview I fully intended on obtaining my MBA in the immediate future. Didn't happen, doesnt look like it will happen anytime soon. Hasn't harmed my career or progress here.
Life happens, Walker not finishing a few hours his last year in college to get a piece of paper is the biggest of no big deals
might help him connect and relate better with all the working class/middle class whites who were turned off by Romney but equally repulsed by the modern Democrat party, and sat at home in 2012. Certainly moreso than The Queen Of Learjets and Chauffeured SUV's.
Life happens, Walker not finishing a few hours his last year in college to get a piece of paper is the biggest of no big deals
might help him connect and relate better with all the working class/middle class whites who were turned off by Romney but equally repulsed by the modern Democrat party, and sat at home in 2012. Certainly moreso than The Queen Of Learjets and Chauffeured SUV's.
You aren't going to have to hope, it's as sure as the sun rising going to be a thread they pile on with him. And it's going to be hilarious.
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