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megablue

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Regarding unauthorized immigrants population in the country, here is a recent article ... fwiw:
Here are some other links ... fwiw:
 
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Classy_Bowls

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50M hahahahaha You & JD give the issue a bad name with the exaggerations.

That's how you get your rocks off on a Sunday morning I guess.
No, you woke up in your usual TDS contrarian self today.

I’ll trust the President and the VP over some TDS Trump hating RINO anyway of the week.

you’re wrong on 5-8 million and can’t prove it.
 

warrior-cat

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And people wonder why some of us are not wanting to send any more support to the Ukraine. If you make this point in the Ukraine thread you are automatically labeled a comrade and a Putin supporter. Same people who have been for years now saying just a little more money/equipment and Russia will be defeated. Every three to 6 months, more of the same while Zelensky and his cronies (not to mention dims and rinos) keep getting richer.
 

vhcat1970

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No, you woke up in your usual TDS contrarian self today.

I’ll trust the President and the VP over some TDS Trump hating RINO anyway of the week.

you’re wrong on 5-8 million and can’t prove it.
I can't prove anything that you'd ever accept. Of course a loyal Club MAGA member would believe their bs.

That said, from Trump's Dept of Homeland Security:

"Aug 8, 2025 — This report provides estimates of the illegal alien population living in the United States. It includes breakdowns by period of entry, ..."

shows around 11M total illegals here as of 2022. I take you think 40M+ came in in 2023 & 2024.


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  • the Migration Policy Institute, which has estimated the population at 13.7 million in 20231
  • the Center for Migration Studies, which has estimated the population at 11.7 million in 20232
  • the Pew Research Center, which has estimated the population at 11 million in 2022, accounting for 3.3% of the total U.S. population and 23% of the total foreign-born population3
  • the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which estimated the population at 11.0 million in 20224

If people wouldn't state so many falsehoods, I wouldn't have a need to be contrarian. They need doses of reality.
 

Classy_Bowls

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I can't prove anything that you'd ever accept. Of course a loyal Club MAGA member would believe their bs.

That said, from Trump's Dept of Homeland Security:

"Aug 8, 2025 — This report provides estimates of the illegal alien population living in the United States. It includes breakdowns by period of entry, ..."

shows around 11M total illegals here as of 2022. I take you think 40M+ came in in 2023 & 2024.


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  • the Migration Policy Institute, which has estimated the population at 13.7 million in 20231
  • the Center for Migration Studies, which has estimated the population at 11.7 million in 20232
  • the Pew Research Center, which has estimated the population at 11 million in 2022, accounting for 3.3% of the total U.S. population and 23% of the total foreign-born population3
  • the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which estimated the population at 11.0 million in 20224

If people wouldn't state so many falsehoods, I wouldn't have a need to be contrarian. They need doses of reality.
Actually my point is. No one knows the true amount. But sure isn’t anything absurd as only 5-8 million. That’s Biden gaslighting numbers. No true America First supporter believes in only “5-8 million”

Absurdity
 

vhcat1970

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Actually my point is. No one knows the true amount. But sure isn’t anything absurd as only 5-8 million. That’s Biden gaslighting numbers. No true America First supporter believes in only “5-8 million”

Absurdity
Yes, no one knows if it was 7,853,401 or 7,853,402. Typical stating of an accepted truth to give credence to what follows.

I gave you numbers sources. You reject them - which is why I didn't bother presenting them originally as I knew you would - because nothing can change your Trump & JD loyalty blindness.

I am truly not a Tucker & Fuentes supporter & of course believe they believe JD is right. LOL to all their antisemitic BS.
 

Classy_Bowls

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Yes, no one knows if it was 7,853,401 or 7,853,402. Typical stating of an accepted truth to give credence to what follows.

I gave you numbers sources. You reject them - which is why I didn't bother presenting them originally as I knew you would - because nothing can change your Trump & JD loyalty blindness.

I am truly not a Tucker & Fuentes supporter & of course believe they believe JD is right. LOL to all their antisemitic BS.

you gave no credible source. You used Biden reports.

come up with better propaganda
 

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vhcat1970

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you gave no credible source. You used Biden reports.

come up with better propaganda
Show me Trump/JD reports. I've seen none or I'd show them. As is, JD is just trying to score points with gross exaggerations. No way in hell it's 10s of millions. Sheet like that causes me to look for alternatives. It's unnecessary.

I read 2M have deported since Trump took office. That's pretty ineffective if there are 50M here. If there are 15M, that's pretty good.
 

vhcat1970

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Fayette County Public Schools is 60% non white because of legal immigration. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
This is nonsensical. The big reason is whites not having kids compared with other groups plus whites going to private schools & home schooling. Think Sayre, Lex Christian Academy, & Lex Cath are 60% non-white? 20%?
 

warrior-cat

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You’re telling me Zelensky and the Ukrainian government are actually corrupt and not the shiny white knights they’ve been made out to be? Get outta here….
Yeah, isn't it funny that the things we have been saying for about 3 years or so have been proven time and again yet, this stuff is swept under the rug or forgotten when "self-proclaimed experts" in the Ukrainian thread scream foul and follow-up with the liberal lefts "what about this" deflection (soon to show up here).
 

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vhcat1970

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These are the ones they know about. Under Biden there were many, many more who came over not being counted. There have been countless videos by people filming it over the years.
FAIR claims in the report provided by Gassy that they accounted for unknowns/uncounted in their estimate that are over & above the numbers in government & other reports.
 

vhcat1970

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Watch out! TDS afflicted posters here will now try to find a false report sent out by other TDS afflicted morons who will say that this is incorrect. If they use False, I will sue them for copyright infringement.
Great !! Then Trump for sure doesn't need to heat up the economy with $2K rebates from the tariffs' income.
 

Classy_Bowls

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Thanks. It's probably dropping with deportations.

What makes that source credible?

Regardless, that's 31M+ less than what JD said and much closer to the 15M I've seen.

So you still believe JD's 50M+ ?

I don’t know the real numbers. I trust the VP and I think he knows more than any of us what the true number is.

but it’s not 5-8 million
 

warrior-cat

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Great !! Then Trump for sure doesn't need to heat up the economy with $2K rebates from the tariffs' income.
False. The more money that he can give back to the people the better. If we weren't paying for the moochers in this and other countries, we could fix the deficit in short order all the while taking care of our own.
 

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Have any of you read some of these Epstein emails?



Or this one about "blowing Bubba" which is apparently not referencing Clinton.

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People on here harp on illegal drivers killing people - bad but small - and don't GAS about Americans doing far more of it - bad & large. Why do that facts make it dumb? Strange to me that people here only care about the small.

Small or large is irrelevant. We can try to control the large and we have laws to help prevent the # of highway deaths on the road each year, plus organizations/education/etc, to help prevent DUI's, speeding, traffic laws, and so forth.

Those killed by an illegal would still be alive.

This may the worst analogy ever on this thread.