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notFromhere

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Sep 7, 2016
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The mind races with all the “conspiracy theories” we’ve heard about rigged voting machines.

Is it remotely possible that it’s all true and that he spills on it to save his *** a long prison sentence?

If he lives, I have no doubt he'll do his best singing.

I don't know if it will lead to any prosecutions, if we'll ever get to hear or see the evidence, nor if any if this will matter past being a distraction while the rest of our country continues to be destroyed.

We still haven't seen the epstein grand jury transcripts, the lists, and we still haven't seen Hils in cuffs and charged in spite of everyone knowing shes guilty. Why would we think any of this really matters to anyone except those who financially benefit from recouping their losses in Venezuela?
 

TheFrontRunner

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TheFrontRunner

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Very well put. A good read.




"While we ostensibly captured Maduro based on legitimate, outstanding US drug charges from 2020, the real reason for the military operations early this morning is that neutralizing Maduro's Venezuela had become a strategic imperative for the USA.

Under Maduro, Venezuela had become the Latin American crossroads for all of the USA's principal enemies. Maduro was nurturing relationships with Russia, Hezbollah and Iran. Worst of all, Venezuela was eagerly becoming a part of Red China's Belt & Road initiative.

As America's enemies were lining up Venezuela as their base of operations in the Western Hemisphere to cause mischief and destruction for the USA, Maduro was at the same time making Venezuela a crossroads, safe haven and enabler for all manner of narcoterrorist operations, ranging from Colombia's FARC to Mexico's Sinaloa cartel.


On top of all that, Venezuela had become a key player in the illegal alien invasion of the USA, shipping its very worst to the USA in a deliberate and comprehensive destabilizing operation that might have worked had Donald Trump not won in 2024.

Next in importance: oil. The global and regional ambitions of both China and Russia are in large part dependent on the politics of petroleum, and the USA just deprived both of the cudgel afforded by friendly Venezuelan oil. Trump opponents say "It's about oil" as if that was a bad thing. Yeah, it's about oil.

Finally, all of this was in keeping with the most essential and fundamental foreign policy mandate of the USA almost since the nation's inception: the Monroe Doctrine. Operations like what Maduro was running simply cannot be allowed in the Western Hemisphere. Trump was right for falling back on this most basic of doctrines that protects the USA's sovereignty.

So was Maduro seized because of some five year-old drug charges? Yes. Legally--yes. However, like so many strategic issues in the world today, an action needed to be backed by the fine points of law, and it was. But the reality is that the Maduro takedown was a Monroe Doctrine-driven necessity that has greatly enhanced the power and national security of the USA.


Congratulations, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth and the rest of the Trump national security team: you boldly took the steps necessary to defend the USA. Well done."
 

Marley2

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Dec 30, 2024
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Our country is sunk without a trace. Even if we had the political will to prosecute and jail the people that are behind all of this rampant fraud, there are not enough prosecutors or courts to handle the enormity of this huge volume of crime. And then Democrat judges would just throw everything out. There is no way to clean this up.

Abolish the IRS, and shut down welfare programs.

That'll do it right quick.
 

AustinTXCat

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Jan 7, 2003
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Very well put. A good read.




"While we ostensibly captured Maduro based on legitimate, outstanding US drug charges from 2020, the real reason for the military operations early this morning is that neutralizing Maduro's Venezuela had become a strategic imperative for the USA.

Under Maduro, Venezuela had become the Latin American crossroads for all of the USA's principal enemies. Maduro was nurturing relationships with Russia, Hezbollah and Iran. Worst of all, Venezuela was eagerly becoming a part of Red China's Belt & Road initiative.

As America's enemies were lining up Venezuela as their base of operations in the Western Hemisphere to cause mischief and destruction for the USA, Maduro was at the same time making Venezuela a crossroads, safe haven and enabler for all manner of narcoterrorist operations, ranging from Colombia's FARC to Mexico's Sinaloa cartel.


On top of all that, Venezuela had become a key player in the illegal alien invasion of the USA, shipping its very worst to the USA in a deliberate and comprehensive destabilizing operation that might have worked had Donald Trump not won in 2024.

Next in importance: oil. The global and regional ambitions of both China and Russia are in large part dependent on the politics of petroleum, and the USA just deprived both of the cudgel afforded by friendly Venezuelan oil. Trump opponents say "It's about oil" as if that was a bad thing. Yeah, it's about oil.

Finally, all of this was in keeping with the most essential and fundamental foreign policy mandate of the USA almost since the nation's inception: the Monroe Doctrine. Operations like what Maduro was running simply cannot be allowed in the Western Hemisphere. Trump was right for falling back on this most basic of doctrines that protects the USA's sovereignty.

So was Maduro seized because of some five year-old drug charges? Yes. Legally--yes. However, like so many strategic issues in the world today, an action needed to be backed by the fine points of law, and it was. But the reality is that the Maduro takedown was a Monroe Doctrine-driven necessity that has greatly enhanced the power and national security of the USA.


Congratulations, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth and the rest of the Trump national security team: you boldly took the steps necessary to defend the USA. Well done."

Makes lotsa sense.
 

Nightwish

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Jul 10, 2025
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I'm still marveling at this thread's lack of backbone and awareness. Studies should be done about it. For years, folks said they wanted the US to stop playing world police and that he wouldn't bomb random countries; that he was different. Trump's not a neocon obsessed with bombs and regime changes. Well now we're responsible for another regime change. I'm sure this will go swimmingly as all the others have gone. McCain would be proud! I'm sure Bolton is happy too. And none of you actually care about Venezuelans either lol. This thread spent years yelling "screw the world for not loving Donald like we love him" and now you're going to pretend you care about Venezuelans...

So what's next? Regime change (which I'm certain will go smooth) in a place none of you care about and then what, steal Greenland? After that, invade Mexico and take on that responsibility? You know he's not stopping at Venezuela and his supporters are already trolling Greenland that it's next. If I told you a few years ago this thread would be cheerleading bombs dropped and forced regime changes as Trump declares Venezuela our responsibility, man lol.

National polling will be interesting this year regarding all of this. Americans want tariffs ended, inflation down, and more control at the border. That was it. No one was pining for Trump to play military big boy and make us responsible for regime changes. Spin that all you like but it's true.
 

SDC337

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Feb 14, 2021
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So wait, America is now in control of and running the country of Venezuela? LMAO

Yeah, this thread would've had an absolute fit over us doing this up until this morning. Man, what happened to "let's only focus on OUR country" and "no more bombings and war" and look at this thread now. Some here actually would celebrate if Trump tried to take over Canada or Mexico.

 

SDC337

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Feb 14, 2021
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Very well put. A good read.




"While we ostensibly captured Maduro based on legitimate, outstanding US drug charges from 2020, the real reason for the military operations early this morning is that neutralizing Maduro's Venezuela had become a strategic imperative for the USA.

Under Maduro, Venezuela had become the Latin American crossroads for all of the USA's principal enemies. Maduro was nurturing relationships with Russia, Hezbollah and Iran. Worst of all, Venezuela was eagerly becoming a part of Red China's Belt & Road initiative.

As America's enemies were lining up Venezuela as their base of operations in the Western Hemisphere to cause mischief and destruction for the USA, Maduro was at the same time making Venezuela a crossroads, safe haven and enabler for all manner of narcoterrorist operations, ranging from Colombia's FARC to Mexico's Sinaloa cartel.


On top of all that, Venezuela had become a key player in the illegal alien invasion of the USA, shipping its very worst to the USA in a deliberate and comprehensive destabilizing operation that might have worked had Donald Trump not won in 2024.

Next in importance: oil. The global and regional ambitions of both China and Russia are in large part dependent on the politics of petroleum, and the USA just deprived both of the cudgel afforded by friendly Venezuelan oil. Trump opponents say "It's about oil" as if that was a bad thing. Yeah, it's about oil.

Finally, all of this was in keeping with the most essential and fundamental foreign policy mandate of the USA almost since the nation's inception: the Monroe Doctrine. Operations like what Maduro was running simply cannot be allowed in the Western Hemisphere. Trump was right for falling back on this most basic of doctrines that protects the USA's sovereignty.

So was Maduro seized because of some five year-old drug charges? Yes. Legally--yes. However, like so many strategic issues in the world today, an action needed to be backed by the fine points of law, and it was. But the reality is that the Maduro takedown was a Monroe Doctrine-driven necessity that has greatly enhanced the power and national security of the USA.


Congratulations, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth and the rest of the Trump national security team: you boldly took the steps necessary to defend the USA. Well done."

 

AustinTXCat

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Jan 7, 2003
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They are just completely clueless; love to pontificate about how smart they are, how dumb you must be for thinking differently to them, but they are clueless useful idiots... the lot of them.




But but but the Donald committed 'Crime of the Century'. "Let them eat cake", according to resident leftists. Never-mind USA, Canada, Mexico and other countries in Western Hemisphere have struggled absorbing 8 million Venezuelan refugees since 2014. Nope, to that crowd, money grows on GD trees.
 

Beatle Bum

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Sep 1, 2002
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For those non-TDSers who say Trump acting in Venezuela contradicts his campaign rhetoric, can you explain how this contradicts what we saw from Trump’s international policy from term 1? To me, Trump on international matters has been a steroid pumped version of term 1. He seems less restrained and more confident in how he addresses the world, but not inconsistent.
 

Classy_Bowls

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Aug 29, 2024
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I'm still marveling at this thread's lack of backbone and awareness. Studies should be done about it. For years, folks said they wanted the US to stop playing world police and that he wouldn't bomb random countries; that he was different. Trump's not a neocon obsessed with bombs and regime changes. Well now we're responsible for another regime change. I'm sure this will go swimmingly as all the others have gone. McCain would be proud! I'm sure Bolton is happy too. And none of you actually care about Venezuelans either lol. This thread spent years yelling "screw the world for not loving Donald like we love him" and now you're going to pretend you care about Venezuelans...

So what's next? Regime change (which I'm certain will go smooth) in a place none of you care about and then what, steal Greenland? After that, invade Mexico and take on that responsibility? You know he's not stopping at Venezuela and his supporters are already trolling Greenland that it's next. If I told you a few years ago this thread would be cheerleading bombs dropped and forced regime changes as Trump declares Venezuela our responsibility, man lol.

National polling will be interesting this year regarding all of this. Americans want tariffs ended, inflation down, and more control at the border. That was it. No one was pining for Trump to play military big boy and make us responsible for regime changes. Spin that all you like but it's true.

lol, does Don get the $25 million bounty that your god heroes Biden and Kamala put on Muduro? Lol

By the way, Mr Tolstoy, how’s those Iowa polling doing? You were very confident on those. Hahaha
 

warrior-cat

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Oct 22, 2004
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As per usual, the fully TDS afflicted libs are ENTIRELY on the wrong side of the issue as the pure joy and thankfulness is universal among Venezuelans. You’d think they’d reconsider their nonsense after seeing the outpouring of emotion from countless Venezuelan citizens.
Most dims hate America and anytime we have a president that actually does something that reflects well on America or helps American citizens, they rise up in protest.
 
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Meanwhile, 107K drug overdose deaths in 2023, with 70% attributed to Fentanyl.




If it was about fentanyl, why not raid Mexico or even China? This is about oil and its driven by the cia who also drove the iraq invasion.

The only positive i see is it will drive the price of oil down and put pressure on Russia to give ground on the Ukraine issue. Without this, Russia had all the leverage and could hold out forever.

If he was indicted in new York, it wont be a layup getting a conviction. What if he gets acquitted?