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Catfan in Tn.

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I’ll go on the record and say that I am okay with our united fruits regime change campaign in South American. I don’t mind to see us involved in Venezuela and Cuba… so long as we don’t let a power vacuum create more immigrants or Russian or Chinese influence in the area.

Also okay with anything to get Khamenei out. It’s surreal to see how different Iran looked in the early 70’s when they were close allies to us.

The Greenland trolling is a bad look, though. I think with all the news this weekend, this is the stuff I’d like to see tamed down. There’s no need to claim the island. We already have Thule air base up there and could reopen any of the others if needed.
It's the exact same imperialism whether it's Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, or Greenland. Being ok with some of it and not the rest is silly. Doesn't matter what Russia and China do we don't have the right to just invade whoever we want for whatever we want. If this is your position you better support China's invasion of Taiwan and Russia's of Ukraine too. Only way to be consistent.
 

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Folks, this is why we should not engage with posters like D-Sus and VH. You can point out a truth that undermines their stated belief and they will then move the ball in an irrelevant direction and act as if they scored some point. This post above is nothing short of stupid. The fact that Maduro was not a legitimate leader of Venezuela was not THE point, but a point that clarifies the discussion. The point WAS NOT that all illegitimate leaders should be deposed by foreign nations and D-Sus know that, or rather any rational human would know that. His response is to diffuse the revelation of his ignorance and attempt to string his stupid position along to keep other posters ensnared his stupid debates.
No, that was the exact point. He said specifically that it can't be considered "regime change" because Maduro wasn't legitimately elected. That was the exact contention, you're the one moving the goalposts to obfuscate.
 

notFromhere

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And THIS is one of the reasons he wasn't arresting people immediately relative to the election. That was over 5 years ago and most of the evidence here was destroyed by the globalist dems and rinos. If Maduro had evidence and they obtained it, showing that it was a conspiracy and naming names, there is no statute of limitations on the fraud or the treason.

Without the evidence the only thing they could do was another dog and pony show in congressional "hearings."

If they have the evidence, they may be able to arrest and remove people immediately from bureaucratic, nominated, and elected positions. Doing it is another thing altogether, of course, but the destruction of evidence is something we know was DEFINITELY occurring over the last (at least) 30 years, so it's possible getting this evidence was the goal
 

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Remember when this guy existed?

He never existed. He was always just saying what people wanted to hear to get elected. Which most politicians do. That's expected. The real problem is his voters not holding him accountable for it.

It's very simple. Would I completely abandon my principles if Zohran Mamdani told me that the billionaires were really my friends and were benevolently looking out for me? No. I would tell him to **** off, and support someone in line with my positions. That is the fundamental difference between right and left @HeismanWinner. We see it here every day, and I know you live it in your day-to-day life whenever you walk outside. Everyone you talk to at work gargles Trump's nuts no matter what he does. Who he placates. Who he betrays. Even them.

Switch sides. Advocate for strong worker's rights which include a strong border so our hard-earned wages aren't undercut. What makes America great should be honored, and we both know that isn't bombing brown people in other countries.

Trump is the exact same uniparty elite as the rest of them. The only reason he even spoke the language of the outsider is because he was too crass for their private club. But now he has power so he gets what he's always wanted. Inside. His goal was never to overthrow them, and the system they created for them. It was just to finally be accepted as one of them.
 
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Fanon

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How do we get the news to liberals that China had military personnel in Venezuela at the time we arrested their unelected leader?

The same Chinese military that was sending illegals into our country under Biden...

The same Chinese military that is threatening Taiwan and Japan...

I wish there was SOME way they could actually hear facts and process them for what they are without going through the filter of the media and DNC. Thinking for themselves isn't on the menu, though, and hasn't been for decades. They can't grasp that their opinions have been formed by human traffickers, international bankers, pedos, market manipulators, millionaires and billionaires who got their money through govt assistance, and drug runners.

Who's going to tell them? Who can make them hear it? Who can make the truth more important to them than handouts, entertainment, talking points/smack, and weed?
If Venezuela wants to deal with China that's their business. Maybe we should make ourselves more attractive than China and compete in the free marketplace of ideas? Or, no, we can just stop them by force like bullies do. Got to spend that military money on something, right?

Again, this is exactly what Russia did to Ukraine for looking westward. We are the same. Great powers playing great power games. We're saying the same thing practically, you're just somehow coming to the conclusion we're moral because of it? It's the opposite. We're a conquering imperial power, just like Russia. I expect to see full support for China taking Taiwan around here from now on. It's only consistent.
 

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Glad I have a bunch of shares of Chevron right now.....
Chevron is actually positioned to be the one faring the worst from this, as they were already operating in Venezuela. They stayed when the rest bounced. As such now with all the others coming back they'll get a piece of the pie that was formerly only Chevron's. More capacity will be brought online that'll only compete with what Chevron was already doing. Chevron are really the big losers in all of this. Funny that you don't even know enough about the situation to know that.
 
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HeismanWinner

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I told yall months ago that they've been on his list for a WHILE. He's a bigot of all kinds apparently
Oh no! You called me a bigot! Reee! 😂

You guys are every bit the same as leftists who lose their sht the moment anyone steps out of line on a topic. Without fail. Same names called every time someone doesn’t affirm you or goes “out of bounds” on a topic but then calls others “snowflakes.” Truly fascinating.

We can bash every gen but boomers apparently
We can bash any country but Israel
We can bash any politician but Trump
We can bash Muslims all day long or black criminals or whatever group except one

And no bells go off with folks on here. But I do get a kick out of people on here who weren’t even pro Trump a decade ago or had a completely different position just a year ago now flipping it cause it’s their guy. Amazing.
 

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Just for squirts and giggles, let's assume for a moment that Trump somehow cuts a deal to acquire Greenland during his remaining 3 years. Maybe Denmark sells it to us, maybe some other sort of joint arrangement is agreed upon, whatever. If a Dem happens to win back the White House in 2028, is there any doubt they will seek to undo the whole thing simply for the sake of destroying anything Trump accomplished? Same goes for Venezuela. Will they not try to dismantle or undo anything Trump accomplishes there? Like pardon and release Maduro and send him back to Venezuela with their apologies?
 

Fanon

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Even if you look at US centric Middle Eastern countries, like Jordan, UAE, and SA, they have benefited by choosing to align with us.

The drugs is only one issue with Venezuela. Their close ties with China and Russia are much more concerning. Add to the fact they have been threatening Guyana and the sham election in 24, and I see no issue with us taking action. This is seemingly an issue that aligns with both sides of the aisle and Dems lending their support on this could have done wonders at repairing the bridge between D's and R's.
Read the room. The majority of America did not support this. It's a time to build a coalition around OPPOSING this sort of thing, not supporting it. Look at all the snap polling. I understand we don't see eye-to-eye on plenty, but you need to seriously rethink your position on this one.

Why do we need to get involved with Colombia? There's no connection between their president and the drug trade.
Can deal with Colombia and Nicaragua after that if there's an appetite for that.
Listen to yourself. In a single post you say it isn't justified, then say well maybe we should do it anyway. That's disgusting. It isn't where the majority of America is. And it isn't where you should be either.
 

Bigmikeydelight

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It's the exact same imperialism whether it's Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia, or Greenland. Being ok with some of it and not the rest is silly. Doesn't matter what Russia and China do we don't have the right to just invade whoever we want for whatever we want. If this is your position you better support China's invasion of Taiwan and Russia's of Ukraine too. Only way to be consistent.
I like to think that we are in the business of building democracies. I know our track record is mixed on this, but if we can help shape Venezuela into a country that is more tangent with our view, it’s only going benefit both countries.

What Russia is doing is different. They are a fractured empire that are trying to reclaim land lost decades ago. Ukraine had its faults, some here try to embellish those faults, but following a run towards the west, seemed to be on the same track as other Soviet countries.

My BIL is a second generation American and his parents left Taiwan in the 70’s to study in the US. They speak a common language, but mainland China and Taiwan are two different and distinct countries.

I am okay with Russia and China flexes their muscles to increase the sphere of influence as long as their actions lead to growth around the world. The Silk Road initiative by China will by all accounts help dozens of countries. I fine with that competition. What I don’t want to see is countries bullied for the sake of a new era of colonialism.

Maduro and Chavez were not good leaders and the people in Venezuela have suffered for 2 decades. I’m fine with intervention there. There’s no reason to intervene in Colombia and Greenland, though. Hopefully I’ve articulated my stance clearly on this.
 

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"The West opened its borders, a kind of reverse colonization, providing welfare and thus remittances, while extending to these newcomers and their families not only the full franchise but preferential legal and financial treatment over the native citizenry. The neoliberal experiment, at its core, has been a long self-punishment of the places and peoples that built the modern world."





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This is why y'all are called fascist. Because you have fascist ideology. You are fascists. Goebbels could've written that.
 

Fanon

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We went over these numbers the other day, but all told there were around 10k American deaths from 9/11 and its fallout. Not even including the Iraq War, which should be. 20 times that, as he said, would be around 200k. There's no possible way to stretch the numbers to get to 200k cocaine deaths, even over years and years put together. @TeamAmerica is full of ****.
 

Bigmikeydelight

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Read the room. The majority of America did not support this. It's a time to build a coalition around OPPOSING this sort of thing, not supporting it. Look at all the snap polling. I understand we don't see eye-to-eye on plenty, but you need to seriously rethink your position on this one.



Listen to yourself. In a single post you say it isn't justified, then say well maybe we should do it anyway. That's disgusting. It isn't where the majority of America is. And it isn't where you should be either.
I think that if you and I were having a conversation a year ago, I would be steadfast on a lot of the same sticking points you have. I think after the election, I needed to figure out why all the talking heads on our side was wrong on basically everything election wise.

I started posting here a year ago to figure out how so many missed the mark. I’ve tried to be open minded to the right to help round my own opinion on things. I think ultimately the right and the left want a successful America.

By moderating my opinions, I can enjoy successes in the 2nd Trump admin. If you were to ask me what successes occurred during the first term, I have a hard time answering that and I’m not sure that’s fair. Glass half full, I can look back and say “Man, Trump was able to do x, y, z” and then provide evidence. If the worst case scenarios happen, I can at least say I gave him his fair shake.
 

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Hat tip: Matt Machowiak.



Loudmouths should STFU.

Now do donations to colleges. Foreign donations to colleges totals over 60B per year. Makes for a nice little money laundering scheme.

Qatar, Arab Emirates, Saudis, and China are pouring money into American educational institutions. The Ivy League is the largest. Lots of politicians and lobbyists are connected to those Ivy League institutions as alumni, professors, and board members, and those institutions donate heavily to both parties. Texas A&M is one of the largest receivers of those donations outside the Ivy.
 

Catfan in Tn.

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We went over these numbers the other day, but all told there were around 10k American deaths from 9/11 and its fallout. Not even including the Iraq War, which should be. 20 times that, as he said, would be around 200k. There's no possible way to stretch the numbers to get to 200k cocaine deaths, even over years and years put together. @TeamAmerica is full of ****.
You said cocaine doesn't kill Jack squat.
How many do you think should die before it’s a big deal?
 

FireWentOut

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Looks like Massachushits has finally just said screw it and decided to limit how much a person can drive.