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notFromhere

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He used the same inflammatory language y'all accuse Democrats of. Show me where a Dem said to cut ICE's head off? Exactly.

Yet, you refuse to find or post one single quote in context to prove your position. Because you know full well there aren't any. Like any other disingenuous handle floating around these pages.

While everyone opposing you has posted maybe thousands of posts total about the "Nazi" rhetoric of Democrats across this country. NO ONE uses the term Nazi in describing someone on a public stage from a position of authority without expecting violence to follow against that person.

Nazis didn't follow the law. They executed and jailed legal citizens until they could do what they wanted. Illegals are here illegally. The illegals that are also illegally doing financial and physical harm to others should not be protected from the law. The people that refused to stop the Nazis were socialists and fascists that didn't tolerate others not like them. They refused to defend citizens because they were either afraid of the criminals the party attracted, or they wanted to be them.

The mental gymnastics you engage in have warped you irrevocably. I pray God shows you your error and your consequences so you can choose what is good
 

notFromhere

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Maybe one day, when someone holds a weapon up to these liars and threatens them with bodily harm FOR NO GOOD REASON while theyre doing their jobs, they will understand why she was shot and why multiple shots were fired. When someone attacks, you don't wait to see who's in the way behind you, you don't check their wheel alignment after they've hit you with the vehicle. You end the situation before someone else gets hurt.

She acted like a violent criminal who wasn't afraid to harm law enforcement. When a person like that threatens you, you don't kick the can down the road like a true leftist. You stop them. There was no other way in that split second situation. 1 or 3 shots it doesn't matter.
 

Bill Derington

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Like I wrote yesterday, it’s a tragedy the lady is dead. However, she entirely caused the situation to escalate to deadly force.

The Minnesota govt is trying to create a situation where if they’re arrested for fraud, they can claim it’s on political reasons. If it takes death and destruction, they don’t care.

The difference between now and 2020 is Trump isn’t going to let up, ICE isn’t leaving. They riot and you can bet your *** he’lll declare it an insurrection, and shut that sh$t down this time.

It was always going to get worse before it gets better, the closer to dismantling the fraud the uglier it’s gonna get.
 

notFromhere

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What don’t you idiots understand about “don’t stop until the threat is neutralized”. You’re so blinded by your idiocy that you don’t even understand basic defensive firearm training.

They understand completely. They're just lying. It's ideology over all things with them. When they are faced with it, they'll show who they really are.
 

SDC337

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Truer words have never been spoken.

Yep, same to you Dionysus. I'll never have any respect for you, likewise, nor take you seriously, either.

No one should. Anyone who does, here or anywhere, and in any capacity for that matter, is making a mistake to their own detriment. You won't get a serious discussion from me (you never have) just because you *under all your pseudonyms* demand it: you must prove yourself capable and sincere. You are neither.
 

Fanon

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Here. Relevant portion being this:

C. Use of Safe Tactics
1. Authorized Officers/Agents should seek to employ tactics and techniques that effectively bring an incident under control while promoting the safety of the officer/agent and the public, and that minimize the risk of unintended injury or serious property damage.

2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.
 
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Fanon

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Yet, you refuse to find or post one single quote in context to prove your position. Because you know full well there aren't any. Like any other disingenuous handle floating around these pages.

While everyone opposing you has posted maybe thousands of posts total about the "Nazi" rhetoric of Democrats across this country. NO ONE uses the term Nazi in describing someone on a public stage from a position of authority without expecting violence to follow against that person.

Nazis didn't follow the law. They executed and jailed legal citizens until they could do what they wanted. Illegals are here illegally. The illegals that are also illegally doing financial and physical harm to others should not be protected from the law. The people that refused to stop the Nazis were socialists and fascists that didn't tolerate others not like them. They refused to defend citizens because they were either afraid of the criminals the party attracted, or they wanted to be them.

The mental gymnastics you engage in have warped you irrevocably. I pray God shows you your error and your consequences so you can choose what is good
Insane ********. The socialists were the very ones opposing and fighting the Nazis. Literally in the streets of Berlin. We were the strongest opposition to fascism and the first ones to die to it. As we are today. Exactly what just happened to Renee Nicole Good.

You are supporting it. As you would have then.
 
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FireWentOut

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I had a long time friend use the "shoot the tires" scenario to me today. We have never agreed politically, but it never got in the way of a friendship until today. They were adamant this ICE agent committed murder, and I essentially ended the conversation once the tire part came out of their mouth. Explaining this would have been tiresome, and gotten us nowhere. We will be fine eventually once this blows over, but for the life of me I don't see how anyone w/ one ounce of common sense can't dissect what happened.
Most people have never faced an actual binary life or death situation before. They might have been in a situation where they could have been killed, but not where death was imminent if they didn't make an immediate moral choice that might be unpalatable for them. They really think they could talk their way out, or run away, or dodge, or pull off some miracle. Sometimes they might be right, but if they are wrong is it permanent game over. Their opinions are not based in reality.
 
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SDC337

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Here. Relevant portion being this:

C. Use of Safe Tactics
1. Authorized Officers/Agents should seek to employ tactics and techniques that effectively bring an incident under control while promoting the safety of the officer/agent and the public, and that minimize the risk of unintended injury or serious property damage.

2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

3. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.


4. Authorized Officers/Agents may use "objectively reasonable" force only when it is
necessary to carry out their law enforcement duties.

5. The “reasonableness” of a particular use of force is based on the totality of
circumstances known by the officer/agent at the time of the use of force
, and
weighs the actions of the officer/agent against the rights of the subject, in light of
the circumstances surrounding the event.2 Reasonableness will be judged from
the perspective of a reasonable officer/agent on the scene rather than with the
20/20 vision of hindsight.


6. The calculus of reasonableness embodies an allowance for the fact that law
enforcement officers/agents are often forced to make split-second decisions - in
circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving - about the amount
of force that is necessary in a particular situation.

7. A use of force is “necessary” when it is reasonably required to carry out the
Authorized Officer’s/Agent’s law enforcement duties in a given situation,

considering the totality of facts and circumstances of such particular situation.

A use of deadly force is “necessary” when the officer/agent has a reasonable
belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or
serious bodily injury to the officer/agent or to another person.
 

Fanon

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4. Authorized Officers/Agents may use "objectively reasonable" force only when it is
necessary to carry out their law enforcement duties.

5. The “reasonableness” of a particular use of force is based on the totality of
circumstances known by the officer/agent at the time of the use of force
, and
weighs the actions of the officer/agent against the rights of the subject, in light of
the circumstances surrounding the event.2 Reasonableness will be judged from
the perspective of a reasonable officer/agent on the scene rather than with the
20/20 vision of hindsight.


6. The calculus of reasonableness embodies an allowance for the fact that law
enforcement officers/agents are often forced to make split-second decisions - in
circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving - about the amount
of force that is necessary in a particular situation.

7. A use of force is “necessary” when it is reasonably required to carry out the
Authorized Officer’s/Agent’s law enforcement duties in a given situation,

considering the totality of facts and circumstances of such particular situation.

A use of deadly force is “necessary” when the officer/agent has a reasonable
belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or
serious bodily injury to the officer/agent or to another person.
None of which make this "reasonable" as the officer was directly contradicting his own training and explicit instructions, as linked. He created the imminent danger himself, against protocol. Not the driver.

This is specifically why the protocol was introduced. That's the whole point of bullet point 3.
 

SDC337

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None of which make this "reasonable" as the officer was directly contradicting his own training and explicit instructions, as linked. He created the imminent danger himself, against protocol. Not the driver.

This is specifically why the protocol was introduced.


You won't get a serious discussion from me (you never have) just because you *under all your pseudonyms* demand it: you must prove yourself capable and sincere. You are neither.
 

Tannerdad

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After watching all the vids, it’s clear to me the whole thing in Minn could have easily been avoided. Why in hell would you even stand in front of the car when these idiots are out there? Even cops know you should avoid putting yourself in bad situations. Just seems stupid and unnecessary.

But since he did do that, he was definitely in the right to eliminate the danger.

Totally avoidable and it’s going to cause riots and protests for some time.
 

TeamAmerica

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I'm following the lead of this thread as most, if not every regular has said in years past if you do not comply with an officer, we will not feel sorry for whatever consequences may come your way. Stupid games, stupid prizes. That line of thinking applies to Babbitt.

As far as today goes, we'll see what happens. My best guess is the temp isn't going to be turned down by either side and things will get worse, per usual. Great start to 2026. From what I've seen, the ICE agent wasn't almost run over nor did he have a mob on the other side of a door pushing towards him but the videos will now be seen around the world and a court may decide what ultimately happens to him. ICE is there for one reason and that's not to shoot and kill moms living in MN. I don't think the public is going to see this the way this thread sees this. There's a blindness and a submissiveness on the right for authority figures and everyone here has created this made-up fairytale that every single ICE agent has moral authority over the rest of us. They cannot be questioned and they are heroes.
why do you think her wife jumped out of the car to start filming?
 

SDC337

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Exactly. You straight up admit I'm being sincere and you aren't. Take your 'taqiyya' and shove it.

No.

6. Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.
However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject
where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a
significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others
and such force is necessary to prevent escape.7
 

Blu-ish

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After watching all the vids, it’s clear to me the whole thing in Minn could have easily been avoided. Why in hell would you even stand in front of the car when these idiots are out there? Even cops know you should avoid putting yourself in bad situations. Just seems stupid and unnecessary.

But since he did do that, he was definitely in the right to eliminate the danger.

Totally avoidable and it’s going to cause riots and protests for some time.
He may have thought she would stand down and not accelerate if he were in her path.

You've likely seen many videos of the left doing this when they block traffic.
 
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FireWentOut

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Insane ********. The socialists were the very ones opposing and fighting the Nazis. Literally in the streets of Berlin. We were the strongest opposition to fascism and the first ones to die to it. As we are today. Exactly what just happened to Renee Nicole Good.

You are supporting it. As you would have then.
LOL, this **** again. Nazism is just a more extreme form of socialism. Hitler was clear about his 25 point program and why there was division between democratic socialist and autocratic socialists. It was just a squabble inside of the same ****** political idea.

And Ms. Good is dead because she used her vehicle to bull rush an armed cop who was ordering her to comply. She gambled that her white liberal female status would protect her from arrest and when it didn't she panicked and did something suicidal. She was wrong and she paid for it with her life.
 

FireMitch1996

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Insane ********. The socialists were the very ones opposing and fighting the Nazis. Literally in the streets of Berlin. We were the strongest opposition to fascism and the first ones to die to it. As we are today. Exactly what just happened to Renee Nicole Good.

You are supporting it. As you would have then.
It’s so funny that you think you’re on the good side.
 

Fanon

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No.

6. Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.
However, deadly force is authorized to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject
where the officer/agent has a reasonable belief that the subject poses a
significant threat of death or serious physical harm to the officer/agent or others
and such force is necessary to prevent escape.7
Yes. The officer placed himself in that situation, explicitly against policy.
 
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Fanon

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LOL, this **** again. Nazism is just a more extreme form of socialism. Hitler was clear about his 25 point program and why there was division between democratic socialist and autocratic socialists. It was just a squabble inside of the same ****** political idea.

And Ms. Good is dead because she used her vehicle to bull rush an armed cop who was ordering her to comply. She gambled that her white liberal female status would protect her from arrest and when it didn't she panicked and did something suicidal. She was wrong and she paid for it with her life.
Again, more bull. He specifically destroyed all the unions with his actions, while decrying them and justifying the natural hierarchies of capital with his words. You're wrong in all facets.

She is the victim of a fascist gestapo whose budget is more than almost every country in the world. To oppress our own people. Y'all who support it are "wrong and she paid for it with her life."
 

tls

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My take on the gal in Minneapolis that was killed is pretty much the same as it was for Ashley Babbitt. And that is that if you put yourself in bad situations by doing dumb things, you might get shot. For the gal who died today, if I'm being honest the officer pulled his gun awful fast on her. But we also don't know what kind of BS was going on before the incident took place. Per my understanding she and her crew were harassing ICE all morning.
Babbitt clearly was unarmed which is a distinction to be noted. How about the Boylan woman beaten to death by a female cop?
 

Ash Williams

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After watching all the vids, it’s clear to me the whole thing in Minn could have easily been avoided. Why in hell would you even stand in front of the car when these idiots are out there? Even cops know you should avoid putting yourself in bad situations. Just seems stupid and unnecessary.

But since he did do that, he was definitely in the right to eliminate the danger.

Totally avoidable and it’s going to cause riots and protests for some time.
Why would that rape victim were such a short skirt? She should know to avoid a situation like that.