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Lost In FL

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Bigmikeydelight said:
We have to implement policies to protect the bottom denominator, unfortunately. If they allowed yourself and other to pull out, insolvency happens much quicker.
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i understand [hey btw, good to see you bigmikey. how is your little one doing? growing like crazy i hope.], but it is going insolvent either way...you don't have to be a clown math savant to see that.

I would be happy with an option to opt out, keeping my 6.2% and letting the gov't continue to take the 6.2% from my employer.

when most of the young ppl opt out, but continue to pay the 6.2%, the debt owed by the gov't in a generation decreases dramatically because they will never draw out.
 
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CaughtTheCat

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I’m old enough to remember that back in 2015 the Lolita Express and Epstein Island were nothing more than right wing conspiracies. All the lefties and media told us that.

Now, those same people are attempting to use an email saying Trump was left alone with a “victim”, even though said “victim” wrote in a book AND testified that Trump was nothing but kind to her and did nothing inappropriate. LMFAO.

The left is never to be taken seriously. Ever.
 
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Lost In FL said:
Yes, if you retire ASAP and meet or beat life expectancy, you make out real well.

Now i'm not fluent yet on the retirement rules (yes i'm old, but not OOOOLLLD like somes on here lol), but here is my problem with the current system. When you die, your family gets what? 250 dollars?

Instead if i could keep my 12.4% for SS and invest it privately, over 45 years (20 to 65), then i'd have 4.8million to live off of and then give away to my family when i die. To top it off, the future taxpayer would be unburdened by this has-been. haha

i know ... the problem is our people are too stupid to invest that 12.4% and they end up broke. But i would ask ... why should our children's children have to pay because tommy and susie were too fing stupid to save money? that seems like a tommy and susie problem.

Bottom line: most of the gov't handouts whether paid into or not, reward bad decisions. and each generation becomes more dependent upon daddy gov't.
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Bush tried to do that in 2002 and both Parties soundly rejected it.
 
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ukalumni00

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Like others have said, if they had clear evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein garbage they would have released it by now. These are the same people who released the grab them by the pu$$y soundbite as the 2016 October surprise, the Clinton Dossier, and the list goes on and on. Most of it was fake and none of it worked yet we are supposed to believe they have tapes of him with underage girls and nobody leaked it yet? Give me a break... JMO, I think this case may be even bigger than we think and ALOT of very powerful people and making sure it does not get released.

Also, glad to see Trump's admin talking a lot more about the economy and understanding people are still hurting. If they can start bringing prices down to a level people really notice and actually come up with a legitimate plan to replace Obamacare then the midterms will be a cakewalk.
 
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HeismanWinner said:
I agree with you but the "Dems voted against releasing them" thing they're running with is misleading.

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The November 12 Procedural Objection Explained
  • Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) sought unanimous consent for an immediate vote right after the petition succeeded. House rules require bipartisan leadership clearance for such requests; without it, the chair (Rep. Steve Womack, R-Calif.) ruled it out of order.

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  • Democrats' objection ensured the bill follows the discharge process (seven legislative days to "ripen," then two days for scheduling), preventing a rushed vote that could be challenged or tied to unrelated shutdown legislation.

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    Burchett called it "politics," but Democrats noted the files were available under Biden (2019–2025) without GOP obstruction.


  • X posts amplifying the "block" claim (e.g., from conservative users) often omit this context, framing it as outright opposition despite the petition's Democratic backing. "
While Burchett's frustration is genuine—he supports transparency and has pushed for it independently—the "block" was a routine House procedural matter, not a substantive rejection of the bill:
  • What Actually Happened: Unanimous consent requests need informal buy-in from bipartisan leadership (or at least no objection) and proper coordination. Burchett's bid failed because he hadn't secured the required sign-off from Democratic leaders, leading the chair (Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark.) to rule it out of order. Democrats' objection ensured the bill follows the discharge petition's rules, preventing a potentially challengeable rushed vote amid the post-shutdown chaos.

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  • Democratic Support Remains Strong: As noted previously, Democrats drove the discharge petition (nearly all 214 signers) and released the emails to build public pressure. Reps. like Robert Garcia have called out Republicans for "feigning transparency" to "give cover" to Trump.

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    The bill is still on track for a floor vote the week of November 17, thanks to that petition.

    nytimes.com +1
  • Burchett's Own Stance: He hasn't signed the petition himself, which some critics (including on X) call out as inconsistent.

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    His move appears partly aimed at preempting Democratic momentum and scoring points against Speaker Johnson, who initially resisted the vote.
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I love that they've gotten the Democrat base to actually DEMAND the release of the evidence, in spite of the old guard politicians' objections. I hope that was this administration's goal, because it would be masterful if it was.
 
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notFromhere

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TheFrontRunner said:
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ICE agents need to carry around a sleeve of red MAGA baseball caps to put on these guys or pull out of the aliens' pockets as they are arresting them. These idiot liberal heads will explode when they see an illegal alien being arrested wearing one. Problem solved.

Liberals before "GFY, ICE agents!!"

Liberals after "ARREST THOSE MAGA MFERS!!!"
 
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TheFrontRunner said:




"Oh, OF COURSE. Privately, we were having conversations all the time!"

"Chuck Schumer, this probably ended his career!"

"And frankly, privately, the Democrats would recognize the position of their far left was crazy. But they all feel a little bit like they're being held hostage by their far left."












"They don't care if the troops don't get paid! They don't care if you cause billions of dollars in lost productivity. They don't care if you shut down the airline industry, which they were very close to doing. They just want to get Trump!"

"And they don't care if they have to burn the entire country down in order to get Trump. That's what they want to do. And I think that it shows how STUPID that approach is politically, because normally you would expect the president of United States to get blamed for a shutdown."

"The American people were smart enough to recognize that the Democrats were the ones who were sort of holding this hostage."

"They were saying that unless you give us everything that we want, unless you give us $1.5 trillion of benefits, health care for illegal aliens, we're going to destroy the country. We're going to keep the government shut down indefinitely!"
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All this is likely true. Just don't think Dims won't win the midterms because of it if the economy isn't humming.
 
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Monday Nitro said:
Katie Couric is the worst of the worst that goes out of their way to pledge their undying loyalty to the Liberal cult of insanity.
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Katie Couric is irrelevant. No one had even though of her until she did that bit. Now because she acted like an *** she gets a few seconds back in the public eye to stoke her dying career before she flames out for good. Good riddance.
 
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notFromhere

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FireWentOut said:
Katie Couric is irrelevant. No one had even though of her until she did that bit. Now because she acted like an *** she gets a few seconds back in the public eye to stoke her dying career before she flames out for good. Good riddance.
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She's probably still making bank off inventing that one shot coffee maker of hers. What's the slogan for that stuff now?

"Forever chemicals in every cup?"

"Good til the second 100 shots?"

"Why does my coffee taste like plastic?"

Maybe the trend is dying and she's got to go back to broadcasting. It happens. A lot of people had to find other work when the ngos got defunded. Surprised she abandoned the coffee gig though.
 
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