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ScrewDuke1

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Adams and Shows should never officiate another UK game the rest of their careers. They are both blind as bats and clearly refuse to see the court fairly.
Agreed. Just awful. Its not why we lost...but the officiating was a crap show. That one play where JQ was fouled like 3 different times by 3 different players going for a rebound and not called...just for the refs to whistle a little touch foul on UK 5 seconds later was something else.

I'm really tired of awful officiating in sports. I'm tired of these sports leagues doing absolutely nothing about it too. Then again...maybe they want it to be like the way it i$.
 

Ash Williams

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Have you watched the video? She very clearly backs up before going forward. No reason to do that if you're intentionally trying to run over the person.



You're literally worrying about the safety of the people who gunned down one of your fellow Americans today, from being gunned down. It's bizzarro world.

You're such a dips hit.

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UKbrassowTipIn93

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Watch the video. She didn't "gun your car at an armed government agent." She reversed away from said agent, then turned away from him and accelerated away. It's impossible to argue she was gunning for that agent.


Love you guys are going with "she bumped him"

The democrat party encourages this behavior, violence is what they want because changing law is too much work
 

cole@854

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Watch the video. She didn't "gun your car at an armed government agent." She reversed away from said agent, then turned away from him and accelerated away. It's impossible to argue she was gunning for that agent.

1.All false.
2. She reversed with officers grabbing the car and ordering her out.
3. She moved ahead quickly approximately 6 feet before veering right. During that time she clipped the leg of the agent who luckily moved or he would have been ran over.
4. You're truly a clueless buffoon.
 

cole@854

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This is an awesome synopsis of the incident....


Whether the driver intended to run down the officer is irrelevant.

What matters is that she was in control of a 4,000-pound vehicle (a vehicle can instantly become a lethal weapon)

After being ordered out of the vehicle by law enforcement, she refused to comply and instead attempted to flee.

In doing so, she accelerated.

Directly in front of her vehicle was an ICE agent.

He had no way of knowing whether she intended to strike him or whether she simply failed to turn in time. But intent is not something an officer can safely assume in a split second.

What he did know was that a 4,000 ton vehicle was accelerating straight toward him. He knows the driver was just moments before ordered to exit the vehicle and had already made clear she had no intent to comply or respect law enforcement. Video footage appears to show the car at least brushing his left leg as it accelerates.

He had only a moment to react to what, from his perspective, was an imminent threat to his life.

To label that response “murder” is reckless and dangerous. The rhetoric from Jacob Frey and others is incendiary rhetoric that jumps to massive conclusions for the sole purpose of inciting violence.

Blaming the ICE agent ignores the basic realities of use of force laws and likely won't have much standing in court
 

Fanon

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1.All false.
2. She reversed with officers grabbing the car and ordering her out.
3. She moved ahead quickly approximately 6 feet before veering right. During that time she clipped the leg of the agent who luckily moved or he would have been ran over.
4. You're truly a clueless buffoon.
??? You're saying exactly the same thing. She clearly reverses, which she never would've done if she was intentionally trying to ram. Makes no sense. Then she very clearly turns away from the officer, not towards, which is so obvious you yourself have to say so even while somehow arguing the opposite.
 

Ash Williams

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This is an awesome synopsis of the incident....


Whether the driver intended to run down the officer is irrelevant.

What matters is that she was in control of a 4,000-pound vehicle (a vehicle can instantly become a lethal weapon)

After being ordered out of the vehicle by law enforcement, she refused to comply and instead attempted to flee.

In doing so, she accelerated.

Directly in front of her vehicle was an ICE agent.

He had no way of knowing whether she intended to strike him or whether she simply failed to turn in time. But intent is not something an officer can safely assume in a split second.

What he did know was that a 4,000 ton vehicle was accelerating straight toward him. He knows the driver was just moments before ordered to exit the vehicle and had already made clear she had no intent to comply or respect law enforcement. Video footage appears to show the car at least brushing his left leg as it accelerates.

He had only a moment to react to what, from his perspective, was an imminent threat to his life.

To label that response “murder” is reckless and dangerous. The rhetoric from Jacob Frey and others is incendiary rhetoric that jumps to massive conclusions for the sole purpose of inciting violence.

Blaming the ICE agent ignores the basic realities of use of force laws and likely won't have much standing in court
I bet the next time somebody thinks of using a car to ram ICE agents they'll reconsider.
 

Joe-King

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This is an awesome synopsis of the incident....


Whether the driver intended to run down the officer is irrelevant.

What matters is that she was in control of a 4,000-pound vehicle (a vehicle can instantly become a lethal weapon)

After being ordered out of the vehicle by law enforcement, she refused to comply and instead attempted to flee.

In doing so, she accelerated.

Directly in front of her vehicle was an ICE agent.

He had no way of knowing whether she intended to strike him or whether she simply failed to turn in time. But intent is not something an officer can safely assume in a split second.

What he did know was that a 4,000 ton vehicle was accelerating straight toward him. He knows the driver was just moments before ordered to exit the vehicle and had already made clear she had no intent to comply or respect law enforcement. Video footage appears to show the car at least brushing his left leg as it accelerates.

He had only a moment to react to what, from his perspective, was an imminent threat to his life.

To label that response “murder” is reckless and dangerous. The rhetoric from Jacob Frey and others is incendiary rhetoric that jumps to massive conclusions for the sole purpose of inciting violence.

Blaming the ICE agent ignores the basic realities of use of force laws and likely won't have much standing in court

After she reversed, she started forward. If you watched closely the agent heard or seen the tires start forward, that's when he drew, and she hit the gas.
 

Joe-King

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No doubt Pope is done at UK. He might get a third year...hell Mitch kept Stoops after a 4 win season...and had to have two 4 win seasons in a row to finally fire him.

He seems like a great guy. But the UK job is just too big for him.
Mitch does not have the balls to pull the plug. Pope will ride this out as long as HE wants to.
 

FireMitch1996

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No one's disputing he's in front of her vehicle. He put himself there. She clearly turns away from him. Watch the video for yourself. And quoting a roach like Asmongold is hilarious. Pretty representative of the level of political discourse around here.
Lemme guess you’re a Hasan guy 😂 such a dweeb. Get out in the real world and off of Reddit. Almost 90% chance you come from a wealthy family that divorced & your mom married another wealthy guy, you felt left out because your real dad didn’t love you & your step dad didn’t put up with you. Typical privileged guy screaming about privilege & crying about how hard life is.
 
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FireMitch1996

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??? You're saying exactly the same thing. She clearly reverses, which she never would've done if she was intentionally trying to ram. Makes no sense. Then she very clearly turns away from the officer, not towards, which is so obvious you yourself have to say so even while somehow arguing the opposite.
You’re misled if you think intent matters at all here. If someone is waiving a gun around and “accidentally” points it at someone, they have the right to shoot that person. Intent doesn’t matter. Such a bozo that doesn’t understand the law. Look up Tousis v Billiot. This is an open & shut case.
 

Joe-King

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Fanon

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Lemme guess you’re a Hasan guy 😂 such a dweeb. Get out in the real world and off of Reddit. Almost 90% chance you come from a wealthy family that divorced & your mom married another wealthy guy, you felt left out because your real dad didn’t love you & your step dad didn’t put up with you. Typical privileged guy screaming about privilege & crying about how hard life is.
An Asmon fan calling someone else a dweeb. Classic. Caught any roaches recently? :ROFLMAO:

 

Fanon

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You’re misled if you think intent matters at all here. If someone is waiving a gun around and “accidentally” points it at someone, they have the right to shoot that person. Intent doesn’t matter. Such a bozo that doesn’t understand the law. Look up Tousis v Billiot. This is an open & shut case.
Of course capital protects their enforcers. But the case you keep referencing isn't a direct 1-to-1 comparison. Plenty of aggravating factors went into Tousis's case that aren't present here. Namely a 115 mph chase that had already given officers reason to believe he was erratic.
 

FireMitch1996

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Of course capital protects their enforcers. But the case you keep referencing isn't a direct 1-to-1 comparison. Plenty of aggravating factors went into Tousis's case that aren't present here. Namely a 115 mph chase that had already given officers reason to believe he was erratic.
& a woman refusing to listen to federal officers while intentionally trying to agitate & cause chaos isn’t reason to believe shes erratic? While driving a car at them, or even close to them while federal officers are trying to actively pull her out of a car??? Okay 😂