If we were programmed to only do good, inherently free will is gone.
Of course. You are right. This does not have to be the only way the world could exist or have to be. But … it is what it is … as they say.
I understand your argument, of course, but the world did not HAVE to be that way. For God, the ways to create a world and all that’s in it, should be an infinite number. That is how I see it.
Yep, I get what you are saying...
I understand. That is what I was taught and understood for many years. Thanks for your replies.
Yes. I understand the traditional theology, of course. I still have the question(s) and would certainly ask a creator "why did it you do it this way?" ... should I ever be afforded the opportunity. That ever being the case, I sense he would love me, certainly understand and appreciate my asking, as he would know me better than I know myself. Thanks, as always, for the reply.
There have been several well known atheists that has cried out to the Lord on their deathbed.
I relate to WildcatFanin Ohio and realize that believers certainly disagree, but with regards to "according to whom" ... here is but one of many explanations about how death is final and there is no afterlife. There are many very interesting videos of lengthy debates focused on this very issue of "is death final?" that you might enjoy watching on youtube. One is shown below, too. I find these discussions, debates and presentations fascinating ...
Unfortunately 99% of your response had nothing to do with what I posted. At all.
That's a good question. Here is a link that answers it (not a long read) in the same manner I would, but it's easier for me to provide link. Maybe it's nothing new to you, but again, it's how I would answer your question.
To be very blunt, it seems a bit like unnecessarily creating a problem so that he could provide a solution. Kind of similar to how Apple took out the headphone jack from the iPhone so that they could sell Air Pods.
I do have to say from everything I've read, Mary consented and she was only engaged at the time so no adultery technically.
I believe you said you started going to church again with your family, and that you liked the pastor. You should ask his opinion, am always curious to hear what pastors think on challenging questions such as those...
I know there are arguments for it and theological explanations, but God the Father sent his only son to earth to brutally die for the forgiveness of the sings of mankind ... why didn't he just simply forgive the sins ?? Why the sacrifice ?? I know that is always considered a mystery, of course, but it does beg the question of ... is this the only and best way he could've accomplished the forgiveness ??
I don't think it is any different than how we function as a society.
Just like last time, your post addresses nothing that I said, in the slightest. You clearly just enjoy trolling, which is how, according to your earlier post, you life your best life.
Even though our sins are supposedly forgiven by his death, I always understood that it was mankind’s original sin that drew the consequences of pain, sickness, suffering, misery, etc. that all became the unfortunate part of the human condition. So, Jesus’ death allowed his Father to forgive mankind’s sins and permit entrance to Heaven, but the the sad consequences of sin, via the human condition, still remained ?? So … my point is still … why the brutal death … just forgive them. I don’t get it.
I think you are conflating earthly consequences that result from sin with eternal consequence that results from sin.
Perhaps I did not write correctly, but I have always pretty much understood the distinctions you have made. Thanks for the reply.
