Poll. Who won first debate?
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Doesn’t change my opinion, or my vote, but Biden was clear in his delivery. Trump was all over the place. Trump’s inability to convey his policy and his record on jobs and on race was a byproduct of his not adequately preparing for the debate. Biden was polished, I don’t agree with his policies, but Trump was unable to connect Biden’s positions to how it would be a failure and the talking points to them are easy to smash Biden with.
First time I’ve actually sat through a prolonged period and listened to Trump in a long time. I came away bolstered on why I focus on policy and not his mouth.
What debate.......the one between Trump and Chris Wallace?
All jokes aside.....Biden held up and accounted himself well....Trump was his usual bombastic self. The choice is between the radical left that will and does control Biden and the more moderate in the Country.
As of now I'm sticking to my prediction from two years ago.....Biden will be the next POTUS.....I hope I am wrong.
All jokes aside.....Biden held up and accounted himself well....Trump was his usual bombastic self. The choice is between the radical left that will and does control Biden and the more moderate in the Country.
As of now I'm sticking to my prediction from two years ago.....Biden will be the next POTUS.....I hope I am wrong.
In business I always focused on people and results....Trump is arrogant (a New Yorker) but he gets results...Joe Blow ..47 years and nothing...My choice is clear ....my investments tell me so
Biden won this one in a landslide. Rather, I should say Trump gave this one away in awesome fashion.
Now, before folks go off in a tizzy, you must remember that by Friday people won't even remember what the questions and topics were. They'll remember how the two candidates came across.
They'll remember Trump came across as interrupting, rude, angry, and lacked empathy. They'll remember how he argued way more than what he answered.
This debate was an opportunity for Trump to project empathy and confidence that things are good and only going to get better. Instead, he tried to heckle, talk over, and out shout Biden who promptly let him make a fool of himself.
One good thing about this is this gives Biden confidence that he can handle Trump in the next two debates. He won't have to catch Covid or something and (dis)gracefully bow out. This will allow Trump at least a couple of more chances to improve his stock before November 3rd.
The damage may have already been done and too great to overcome.
Now, before folks go off in a tizzy, you must remember that by Friday people won't even remember what the questions and topics were. They'll remember how the two candidates came across.
They'll remember Trump came across as interrupting, rude, angry, and lacked empathy. They'll remember how he argued way more than what he answered.
This debate was an opportunity for Trump to project empathy and confidence that things are good and only going to get better. Instead, he tried to heckle, talk over, and out shout Biden who promptly let him make a fool of himself.
One good thing about this is this gives Biden confidence that he can handle Trump in the next two debates. He won't have to catch Covid or something and (dis)gracefully bow out. This will allow Trump at least a couple of more chances to improve his stock before November 3rd.
The damage may have already been done and too great to overcome.
Trump had so many chances to land some solid punches but he missed them because he was out there just flailing wild punches. Trump wasn't disclipined in his attack tonight. I saw so many openings that he missed.
I don't think anyone "won" as much as the American voters "lost". This whole debate process...the moderator, the format, the ridiculous time limits for answering questions "two minutes, tell us how you are going to end man made climate change?"....the whole thing is just a performance charade for T-V vidiots. There was no substantive policy discussion between them because they spent the entire time calling each other "liar" or making unsubstantiated charges.
A better format would be like the old Lincoln-Douglas debates...where the two simply extemporaneously discuss their policy plans (without the self righteous moderator) in an open forum amicably using their command of the facts and their ability to articulate sound proscriptions on how they would run the country. I was bored 30 minutes into it.
Big waste of time for the voters who are already confused and ill informed because of the three ring circus reporting of the news media, which this was designed to fill as part of their ongoing freak show.
A better format would be like the old Lincoln-Douglas debates...where the two simply extemporaneously discuss their policy plans (without the self righteous moderator) in an open forum amicably using their command of the facts and their ability to articulate sound proscriptions on how they would run the country. I was bored 30 minutes into it.
Big waste of time for the voters who are already confused and ill informed because of the three ring circus reporting of the news media, which this was designed to fill as part of their ongoing freak show.
Agreed. He was just out there throwing hay makers, and he wasn't "targeting" his attacks. You could tell he was over coached...just looking to land a few zingers. Biden on the other hand was just a talking points robot....not even aware of how often he contradicted himself trying to make his boilerplate comments sound plausible. "We're going to lower taxes, by increasing them".
Give me a break!
100% agree.
Trump just needs to make Biden prove why he'd be a better choice for us? Forget about always trying to trash him, Biden does that to himself. Trump just needs to talk about his accomplishments and his record with hard cold facts...it's a fabulous record and Biden has no better answers to it or better ideas and can't even talk about better results.
Trump's record is his strength, Biden doesn't have one but Trump never fully exposed that fact!
Everything Biden said about the environment came straight for The Green New Deal by AOC but then he flat out says he doesn't support the Green New Deal. Talking in circles. He flat out disrespected Bernie Sander but all his economic info was straight from Bernies plan.
'Ya know, reading your post it kinda pisses me off one of their votes counts as much as mine! I mean I can discuss in intimate detail the flaws and economic fallacies inherent in AOC's new green deal...half of that crowd you mentioned doesn't even know what it is? They probably think it's reparations for Blacks from past slavery or something. [eyeroll]
I'm ticked....I spend considerable amounts of time studying this sh*t and my informed vote gets cancelled out by an absentee ballot sent in by a dead person or some illegal from three States away!
Just Damn.
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Me to bro. I studied political science in College and have been interested for decades. My friends and I have discussions on foreign policy and issues here in the US all to be cancelled out by some bum that is very low information and only to vote blue because that is what big brother says yo do
The only poll that counts is the one on election day. Leftists can't cheat if it isn't close. Go vote...and bring a friend.
No winners last night. But America lost bigly. Chris Wallace killed the media last night...I am really pissed that in America, we cannot have a honest debate without bias driving an agenda.
My daughters and two other honor students watched the debate at our house last night....why...their liberal friends said they needed a safe space. All were engaged...all were rolling their eyes and their take away was that C. Wallace asked questions that put Trump in a defensive position which caused him to appear aggressive.
Chris Wallace basically called him a racist...that is how he brought up race relations...really?
My daughters and two other honor students watched the debate at our house last night....why...their liberal friends said they needed a safe space. All were engaged...all were rolling their eyes and their take away was that C. Wallace asked questions that put Trump in a defensive position which caused him to appear aggressive.
Chris Wallace basically called him a racist...that is how he brought up race relations...really?
I'm not sure there was a winner last night. Most people will claim victory for whatever candidate they happen to support.
My personal take is that Trump was basically speaking to his mainstream supporters, while not giving a **** about trying to capture more support from the smaller group of undecided voters. It seems his goal was to simply further divide the Biden supporters, in an effort to suppress the far left progressive vote, by having them sit out the election. I'm not sure that's a sound strategy, but I feel that was what he focused on doing last night.
My personal take is that Trump was basically speaking to his mainstream supporters, while not giving a **** about trying to capture more support from the smaller group of undecided voters. It seems his goal was to simply further divide the Biden supporters, in an effort to suppress the far left progressive vote, by having them sit out the election. I'm not sure that's a sound strategy, but I feel that was what he focused on doing last night.
I got the sense that Wallace biases his questions. Why throw Tulsa and Charlottesville into questions about safety? Things are 20X worse in NYC, Minneapolis, Kenosha, and of course Portland.
Also, why feed “I Don’t Know Joe” job numbers from his time in office? He should know those facts. And the question was stupid because those jobs were all services sector while manufacturing jobs were going to Asia/Mexico. Actual unemployment was horrendous under Biden and many were not even counted because they had given up looking for work. Our plant shut down during Biden’s term and I know what it was like to look for a job at that time.
Wallace did the country a huge disservice last night.
The winners of the debate are the people that didn't watch it. Last night, for the first time in a long time I watched more than snippets of a debate and as anyone else who watched can testify, it was a complete joke. Of course, I won't watch the next debates. Why should I?
These debates aren't something that randomly happens. Someone put them on and has control over how they're conducted. Those people are the ultimate villains in this. How can events like this happen again and again?
First off they need time limits longer than two minutes. Next, they need a button to cut off the mic of the person who is not supposed to be talking. And third, they need to cut the mic of the person that is supposed to be talking when they wander off topic.
Rogan offered to have Trump and Biden on his show for a four hour discussion. It would be infinitely better than what we got last night. Last night is one more bullet in the nail of the mainstream establishment. THE ESTABLISHMENT PUT ON THAT EVENT LAST NIGHT!!! That is why people are sick of the establishment and tuning out of mainstream media. All over the country we have small operations with 1, 2, 3 people creating shows and putting discussion on the Internet that are light years better than what we saw last night.
These debates aren't something that randomly happens. Someone put them on and has control over how they're conducted. Those people are the ultimate villains in this. How can events like this happen again and again?
First off they need time limits longer than two minutes. Next, they need a button to cut off the mic of the person who is not supposed to be talking. And third, they need to cut the mic of the person that is supposed to be talking when they wander off topic.
Rogan offered to have Trump and Biden on his show for a four hour discussion. It would be infinitely better than what we got last night. Last night is one more bullet in the nail of the mainstream establishment. THE ESTABLISHMENT PUT ON THAT EVENT LAST NIGHT!!! That is why people are sick of the establishment and tuning out of mainstream media. All over the country we have small operations with 1, 2, 3 people creating shows and putting discussion on the Internet that are light years better than what we saw last night.