Poor IU-Bloomington

CommodoreCard

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Move our 1point loss to them over to the “Bad Loss” column.

All that talent and Archie is coming up short. (No pun intended)
 
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Cue Card

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Pitt just destroyed #11 Florida State. They won’t be a “bad loss” if they win a few more of those.
Agreed. I like their team, especially their frosh guards. They're going to be a solid team for the next few years if they stay in school.

BTW, that win against FSU jumped them UP 13 spots to #52. They still have a ways to go.
 

Cue Card

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A loss to # 52 is hardly considered a bad loss, especially when it's on he road. Now a loss to a team ranked #100 or lower at home would be considered a bad loss! Just an FYI to all you NCAA tourney experts.
That is true, but of the 5 thus far, the Pitt loss is the worst in reference to rankings. ;)
 

CatsPaws270

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Surprised Nebraska isn't ranked. KenPom and Net have them as a top 10-15ish team. None of their losses are what you'd consider "Bad losses"
 

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Last night during the Virginia game, the announcer made a comment regarding the rankings/polls. One poll had Duke (prior to their loss) as #1 and another had Virginia #1. I think Virginia was ranked #4 in the other poll. The announcer said that was the biggest disparity between polls ever.
 

CatsPaws270

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Last night during the Virginia game, the announcer made a comment regarding the rankings/polls. One poll had Duke (prior to their loss) as #1 and another had Virginia #1. I think Virginia was ranked #4 in the other poll. The announcer said that was the biggest disparity between polls ever.
The actual "voting" polls are just about record and preseason rankings. If you lose...you drop. Those voters go by that model.

Computer models are imperfect...but they don't overreact to 1 close loss to a good team. Just because team A is undefeated...it doesn't mean team B isn't a better team because they lost to another top 5 team. The best team is the best team.

For example...Murray State was #25 in the "polls" entering the conference tournament. They lost the OVC title on a buzzer beater. They drop out...and then go to the NIT. The computers knew Murray played a light schedule and never rewarded them for the 16-0 OVC record.
 

nccardfan

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The actual "voting" polls are just about record and preseason rankings. If you lose...you drop. Those voters go by that model.

Computer models are imperfect...but they don't overreact to 1 close loss to a good team. Just because team A is undefeated...it doesn't mean team B isn't a better team because they lost to another top 5 team. The best team is the best team.

For example...Murray State was #25 in the "polls" entering the conference tournament. They lost the OVC title on a buzzer beater. They drop out...and then go to the NIT. The computers knew Murray played a light schedule and never rewarded them for the 16-0 OVC record.
Obviously you’re missing the point. What the announcer was trying to say was that usually both polls have it close as to who is #1 or #2.
 

CatsPaws270

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Obviously you’re missing the point. What the announcer was trying to say was that usually both polls have it close as to who is #1 or #2.
I think those computer rankings are influencing newer/younger voters. The old guys stick to that wins/losses formula...while the younger voters look at the analytics a little more.