Pope’s way in over his head!

One2Three

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I just cannot get over Kentucky paying a $6 million buyout to BYU
It makes sense, though, considering Mitch’s history, right? The $20 million NIL for a bunch of role players, paying BYU $6 million for a coach who hadn’t even won a single tournament game. This is a guy who gives out ridiculous contracts among the likes of Cal, Stoops and even BCG had contract troubles.
 

dynastydreamuk

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Said it when it happened like we all did... what kind of hire was that?

Mitch needs to go .... terrible hires for the major sports: Gillespie, Joker, Elsy, now Pope.

Pope is our Kenny payne just not as bad...never would have been considered if not at UK alum.

We are in the pay for players era and we have no superstars at UK!!!! At Kentucky!!! The one maybe is one coming back from a major injury...big men are rarely huge impact anyway. Our best player was 6th man at Florida last year. Love Aberdeen and chandler.

We should have offered Nate Oats the same money we offered Dan Hurley... and scott drew should never have been choice #1 or 2... Mitch juChandler. Why is obvious to all.of us and not our AD? Like Pope was 20th on my list...did we really fall that far or Mitch just had to make some "holy hire" hence why scott drew and Pope were 2 and 3rd on the list. We didn't even ask Bruce pearl.... didn't offer nate oats formerly or with a dollar amount he couldn't say no to. Hell so many other proven winners we could have tried to ask.

Did Pope even ever have a 30 win season? I think Kelsey had atleast 2.


Then we pay him 5 million a year when he would have came for 3... we did a 5 year contract and should have done 3 years... gave him an extra year for his sweet 16 ...I said that was dumb when it happened and people fought me over it. And he has a buyout


Mitch sucks...thats mitch's legacy as AD... suck
 

One2Three

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Said it when it happened like we all did... what kind of hire was that?

Mitch needs to go .... terrible hires for the major sports: Gillespie, Joker, Elsy, now Pope.

Pope is our Kenny payne just not as bad...never would have been considered if not at UK alum.

We are in the pay for players era and we have no superstars at UK!!!! At Kentucky!!! The one maybe is one coming back from a major injury...big men are rarely huge impact anyway. Our best player was 6th man at Florida last year. Love Aberdeen and chandler.

We should have offered Nate Oats the same money we offered Dan Hurley... and scott drew should never have been choice #1 or 2... Mitch juChandler. Why is obvious to all.of us and not our AD? Like Pope was 20th on my list...did we really fall that far or Mitch just had to make some "holy hire" hence why scott drew and Pope were 2 and 3rd on the list. We didn't even ask Bruce pearl.... didn't offer nate oats formerly or with a dollar amount he couldn't say no to. Hell so many other proven winners we could have tried to ask.

Did Pope even ever have a 30 win season? I think Kelsey had atleast 2.


Then we pay him 5 million a year when he would have came for 3... we did a 5 year contract and should have done 3 years... gave him an extra year for his sweet 16 ...I said that was dumb when it happened and people fought me over it. And he has a buyout


Mitch sucks...thats mitch's legacy as AD... suck
…we payed BYU $6 million for Pope and they’re a top 10 team with the NBA Draft first pick..
 

TFCat11

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…we payed BYU $6 million for Pope and they’re a top 10 team with the NBA Draft first pick..
Yep, essentially paid for Dybantsa and Wright/ Saunders for them, and they gave the credit to the Utah Jazz owner!

How many top 5 players has the Jazz’s owner bought this recruiting class?

Coincidence??? I don’t think so!
 
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UKBB4Ever

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No way. Embarrassing against 2 rivals. If they were competitive close losses fine but this embarrassing.?
That's exactly it. It's not the losses. even though everyone hates to lose. It's just not competing. There's no preparation. Our offense is hope we make it. Our defense is hope they miss.
 
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UKBB4Ever

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He also thought Tubby was the man for the job in 1998. He was right when he had Pitino’s players but never amounted to anything afterwards.
No he didn't. Pitino never once endorsed Tubby. Pitino recommended Williard.
 

Tim0808

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Something that’s different with Pope is, he’ll resign with some dignity and respect before it gets too out of control…
I am not so sure. Listening to him talk, I think he thinks he is too smart not to be successful at this job. He understands the assignment! I think we will have to drag him out of Lexington.
 

Tim0808

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No he didn't. Pitino never once endorsed Tubby. Pitino recommended Williard.
The fans wanted Donovan, but Pitino recommended Tubby because he thought Tubby could handle the fan base and Donovan was too young and inexperienced.
 

UKBB4Ever

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The fans wanted Donovan, but Pitino recommended Tubby because he thought Tubby could handle the fan base and Donovan was too young and inexperienced.
He absolutely did not recommend Tubby. He did CM that he didn't think Donovan was ready. But he lobbied for Williard to succeed him.
 

RunninRichie

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But the incoming class UK has locked in for next year will right the ship.
The incoming class looks l
Said it when it happened like we all did... what kind of hire was that?

Mitch needs to go .... terrible hires for the major sports: Gillespie, Joker, Elsy, now Pope.

Pope is our Kenny payne just not as bad...never would have been considered if not at UK alum.

We are in the pay for players era and we have no superstars at UK!!!! At Kentucky!!! The one maybe is one coming back from a major injury...big men are rarely huge impact anyway. Our best player was 6th man at Florida last year. Love Aberdeen and chandler.

We should have offered Nate Oats the same money we offered Dan Hurley... and scott drew should never have been choice #1 or 2... Mitch juChandler. Why is obvious to all.of us and not our AD? Like Pope was 20th on my list...did we really fall that far or Mitch just had to make some "holy hire" hence why scott drew and Pope were 2 and 3rd on the list. We didn't even ask Bruce pearl.... didn't offer nate oats formerly or with a dollar amount he couldn't say no to. Hell so many other proven winners we could have tried to ask.

Did Pope even ever have a 30 win season? I think Kelsey had atleast 2.


Then we pay him 5 million a year when he would have came for 3... we did a 5 year contract and should have done 3 years... gave him an extra year for his sweet 16 ...I said that was dumb when it happened and people fought me over it. And he has a buyout


Mitch sucks...thats mitch's legacy as AD... suck
My thoughts to a T. Oats was the hire.
 
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Tim0808

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He absolutely did not recommend Tubby. He did CM that he didn't think Donovan was ready. But he lobbied for Williard to succeed him.
Not the way I remembered it. I remember CM saying Rick recommend Tubby. Several fans thought Rick did that so Donovan would not out shine him at UK. You can even Google who Rick Pitino recommended and it will tell you Tubby. I do not remember Willard's name really coming up during this hire. It was a quick hire.
 

JesusCal92

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This may be true in the end but it’s not because he lost two games to two damn good teams before thanksgiving, which is virtual preseason
 

JesusCal92

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When UK beat Duke last year in the cc Pope was the Vince Lombardi of college basketball. Should show you how meaningless the early season is because Duke was a way better team with the first overall pick
 

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Make a thread on this. Thanks
The cancer is clearly Oweh and Garrison. I could see Mo D and/or Aberdeen being the guys barking back. They both came from well coached teams, that made a final four and won a title.

I'd rather have Aberdeen and Mo D all day before Oweh and Garrison.
 
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We could see someone kicked off the team or opting to leave. And who the hell knows what that means for their NIL.

Something tells me it might be oweh. The way hes playing, probably mad hes not in the NBA. But thats a total guess. It cpuld be Jelavic who misunderstood English and got in a fight.
I hear the Balkan's don't take shiz from anyone! I didn't even consider it was Jelly.

But one other consider is that what if it was Jasper? He barely played in the u6 game.

I think it was Oweh/Garrison that started it or said something to piss people off.
 
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I hear the Balkan's don't take shiz from anyone! I didn't even consider it was Jelly.

But one other consider is that what if it was Jasper? He barely played in the u6 game.

I think it was Oweh/Garrison that started it or said something to piss people off.

It's a complete guess, but I just can't see incoming players being the ones to gripe. All freshman just a **** ton of money, the transfers are coming from lesser schools. Jelavic is a euro player, and they have 10x the work ethic our youth has, so I dont think it's him. That sort of leads me to believe it's returning players. Maybe wanted more money? Maybe not happy with their roles?

Again, total guess.
 
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It's a complete guess, but I just can't see incoming players being the ones to gripe. All freshman just a **** ton of money, the transfers are coming from lesser schools. Jelavic is a euro player, and they have 10x the work ethic our youth has, so I dont think it's him. That sort of leads me to believe it's returning players. Maybe wanted more money? Maybe not happy with their roles?

Again, total guess.
My #1 guess is Oweh. My #2 guess is Garrison.

Aberdeen and Mo D come from good coaching teams and has a ton of experience of what makes a good team. I think both of them bought in what a good team is. You can tell by how they try and play. Its light and day difference from Oweh and Garrison.

But one thought is maybe Jasper said something to one of them and it exploded. I think Japer comprehends what UK is. It could have been something bottled up from the bs and lack of effort and attitude from those 2. Just another thought. But Jasper barely played against UofL. So, not sure if that is the reason or something else.

It's all speculation at the end of the day. Pope needs to discipline whoever it was.
 

chasingwildcat

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I think he should have three years because of first year sweet sixteen

But if we suck this year and next year, he needs to go

We need to back to EE or even FF pretty soon, otherwise we will become another Indiana
 
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