Pray for Arnold and The Apprentice ratings

bamaEER

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Good gracious this guy is a narcissistic dolt
And he's just getting started. Nice to see he pissed Australia off today. Nice work there.
 

MichiganHerd

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Looks as though the left wing nuts ignore the rest of the story. The producer of Apprentice, who happens to be in with the group that puts this on every year, introduced Trump. Trump then proceeded to squeeze in a quick joke. People in attendance actually laughed, as opposed to grumbling when Hussein preached to them about how un-Christian they all were in years past.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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And he's just getting started. Nice to see he pissed Australia off today. Nice work there.
I would love if he did that for real. That's hilarious. A move trolling of that proportion would likely bring a lot of people to his side.
 

WhiteTailEER

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Cmon man. You know better than that.

Only a little.
Way before he ever even ran for President, he always struck me as more of a caricature of a real person than an actual real person. His campaign and everything else, moved me a lot more towards the caricature side than the real person side.

FWIW, my feelings on Clinton are roughly the same. She has never seemed like a genuine person at all to me.
 

dave

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Only a little.
Way before he ever even ran for President, he always struck me as more of a caricature of a real person than an actual real person. His campaign and everything else, moved me a lot more towards the caricature side than the real person side.

FWIW, my feelings on Clinton are roughly the same. She has never seemed like a genuine person at all to me.
I agree that he is a caricature of himself/someone in a lot of ways. I was more commenting on him not being the person that some on here are trying to pretend he is. He is definitely an odd guy.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I agree that he is a caricature of himself/someone in a lot of ways. I was more commenting on him not being the person that some on here are trying to pretend he is. He is definitely an odd guy.
I will say that I can identify with him on a couple of things I've seen thus far and actually respect. Damn the consequences, he is making decisions for what he said he would do and he is surrounding himself with people infinitely qualified to perform the task at hand. I respect someone not afraid to make decision. I've always said that the only wrong decision is not making one. Dictate the tempo and be flexible to changing course as needed. That seems to be the case here. Ultimately, the one or two things endearing to me about him are proving to be true in that he is approaching this job in true executive fashion.

With that said, the man is odd from a personality standpoint. I don't get his inability to take criticism, justified or not. He should rise above that ****, and if he did, he would quickly move up the scale in my book. As it is now, all of his childish antics work against him.
 
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he is surrounding himself with people infinitely qualified to perform the task at hand.

You mean like nominating a Sec of Ed that has zero experience with public education?

You mean like nominating a Sec of Energy that couldn't even remember the name of the Department in a debate? and had no clue the DoE is over nuclear energy?

You mean like kicking out the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of an automatic seat at the Principals Committee (NSC) and including a political strategist?
 

dave

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You mean like nominating a Sec of Ed that has zero experience with public education?

You mean like nominating a Sec of Energy that couldn't even remember the name of the Department in a debate? and had no clue the DoE is over nuclear energy?

You mean like kicking out the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of an automatic seat at the Principals Committee (NSC) and including a political strategist?

1. Who cares. You are running a department and not running schools.

2. Don't care. We havent had an energy policy for 20 years so pfffffft.

3. That is just a lie. Both are free to come to all meetings, but neither is now required to come. Just be honest for 1 day of your life.
 
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You mean like kicking out the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of an automatic seat at the Principals Committee (NSC) and including a political strategist?

3. That is just a lie. Just be honest for 1 day of your life.

They have been kicked out of an automatic seat. That isn't a lie. You seem to be stuck on Alternative Facts.

The director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff no longer get automatic seats at the adults’ table—also known as the Principals Committee. Below the NSC, the Principals Committee is the most senior interagency body of the national security process. It’s the last stop before taking a major national-security decision to the president. It’s chaired by the national security adviser, and usually contains at least the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and until recently, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and director of national intelligence. Military and intelligence inputs have been considered essential ever since September 11, 2001.
 

dave

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They have been kicked out of an automatic seat. That isn't a lie. You seem to be stuck on Alternative Facts.

The director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff no longer get automatic seats at the adults’ table—also known as the Principals Committee. Below the NSC, the Principals Committee is the most senior interagency body of the national security process. It’s the last stop before taking a major national-security decision to the president. It’s chaired by the national security adviser, and usually contains at least the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and until recently, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and director of national intelligence. Military and intelligence inputs have been considered essential ever since September 11, 2001.
They were not kicked out of their seats. They are both invited to all meetings. They are no longer required to go. Get a clue idiot.
 
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They were not kicked out of their seats. They are both invited to all meetings. They are no longer required to go. Get a clue idiot.

The are no longer automatically included. They can be invited. They can also be excluded if the President decides to exclude them, while his political strategist has an automatic seat.

It's no surprise you can't see the stupidity of this.
 

dave

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The are no longer automatically included. They can be invited. They can also be excluded if the President decides to exclude them, while his political strategist has an automatic seat.

It's no surprise you can't see the stupidity of this.
Good grief. Your lie has already changed. They are invited to all meetings. Previously they were rquired to go to all meetings. Now they dont have to attend if their expertise is not required. Read fool.
 
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Good grief. Your lie has already changed. They are invited to all meetings. Previously they were rquired to go to all meetings. Now they dont have to attend if their expertise is not required. Read fool.

You clearly don't understand the meaning of words. I haven't changed my position on any statement. The "existance" of my statements are all above for everyone to read.
 

dave

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You clearly don't understand the meaning of words. I haven't changed my position on any statement. The "existance" of my statements are all above for everyone to read.
Your dishonest claims are there for all to see. Next thing you know you will tell me Trump can't fire the AG. PS, that is still there for everyone to see.
 

WVMade

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Looks as though the left wing nuts ignore the rest of the story. The producer of Apprentice, who happens to be in with the group that puts this on every year, introduced Trump. Trump then proceeded to squeeze in a quick joke. People in attendance actually laughed, as opposed to grumbling when Hussein preached to them about how un-Christian they all were in years past.
Who laughed? You do realize Bone Spur takes 20-30 suited cheerleaders with him?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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You mean like nominating a Sec of Ed that has zero experience with public education?

You mean like nominating a Sec of Energy that couldn't even remember the name of the Department in a debate? and had no clue the DoE is over nuclear energy?

You mean like kicking out the Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of an automatic seat at the Principals Committee (NSC) and including a political strategist?
I run multiple programs and I don't have the technical skill sets for the Programs I run. You don't have to have been in education to manage the Dept and budgets.
 

WhiteTailEER

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I agree that he is a caricature of himself/someone in a lot of ways. I was more commenting on him not being the person that some on here are trying to pretend he is. He is definitely an odd guy.

He is certainly odd. I freely admit my bias. It isn't politically driven in that he's GOP or anything like that, I just don't like him and never have. When he does good things, I'll mention them.

For instance, I think going to welcome home the body of the Seal team member killed in his raid was a good move.

I don't know what kind of person he is. If you go by a lot of things he says, to me he seems like a narcissistic POS. But then when you look at other things he says, he seems OK. He almost never seems rational though, which is my biggest worry with him as POTUS.
 

WhiteTailEER

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I run multiple programs and I don't have the technical skill sets for the Programs I run. You don't have to have been in education to manage the Dept and budgets.

Would you hire a Project Manager to run an IT project that has ZERO IT experience or education though? Would you hire a PM for a software project with zero experience or education in software? There are things about these positions what require expert judgment.

While I think some new eyes on our education system could be good. Somebody that basically has never set foot in a public school setting policies for all of them doesn't sit well with me. She couldn't answer very basic questions about education, which are things that should drive policy.

When you look at the qualifications for last DOE head and then look at Perry ... holy cow ... no comparison. PHD, professor at MIT ... vs ... Bachelors in Animal Husbandry or whatever.
 

bEER_Nation13

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Arnold is a very inspirational guy, much more accomplished than Trump, IMO. Of course Trump is President which is 1 of the biggest accomplishments you can achieve but I still think Arnie is more accomplished with better story.

Here is a comedy segment by Bill Burr. As Bill Burr says, he's been in the zone for over 4 decades!
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Would you hire a Project Manager to run an IT project that has ZERO IT experience or education though? Would you hire a PM for a software project with zero experience or education in software? There are things about these positions what require expert judgment.

While I think some new eyes on our education system could be good. Somebody that basically has never set foot in a public school setting policies for all of them doesn't sit well with me. She couldn't answer very basic questions about education, which are things that should drive policy.

When you look at the qualifications for last DOE head and then look at Perry ... holy cow ... no comparison. PHD, professor at MIT ... vs ... Bachelors in Animal Husbandry or whatever.
One of my first Projects was an engineering effort. My background is not in engineering. I worked very closely with my Project Engineer. We came in on schedule and on budget. He was free to drive engineering and I was free to cross coordinate assets, beat up vendors, and run top cover. It's all about managing your teams to do their thing.

Any person not in favor of a drastic shift of current policy and practice is not what I want. Shake the whole system to its core.