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atlkvb

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Once proof emerges of the FISA requests to gather intelligence on Trump, the Left will then turn its attention to claiming Trump lied and said Obama ordered it.

Once no proof emerges to back the charge of Russians colluding with Trump, the Media will then try to blame Trump for creating the impression they did not try to influence the election when he knew all along they actually did.

Once no evidence emerges of any Trump official meetings to discuss influencing the election with Russians, the Media will then try to promote the idea that Trump actually crushed a full investigation into his ties with the Russians, which is why he still refuses to release all of his financial information.

The media will blame Trump for allowing Russians to hack the DNC, and they will blame him for planting bad information with them (Media) while whitewashing all of the bad information that was actually gathered on him while he was working with them.(Russians) This is impeachable.

The Left will accuse Republicans of hiding Russian involvement in the election in order to set Obama up and blame him for trying to expose their (Russian) activity.

Trump will be accused of using Russians to frame Obama and pin their (Russians) hacking and spying on the Dems and the Left. The actual spying on the Left will be blamed on Russians who were being paid by Trump to dig up dirt on the Democrats.

The Democrats in Congress will demand the entire Trump cabinet resign because of their attempts to destroy the Government by firing career bureaucrats. They will claim it's a political "cleansing" by Trump and his anti-Government forces, and the firings are impeachable offenses.

Democrats and the Left will claim Trump hates America, that's why he's alienating us from all of our Foreign trading partners, so he can tax their goods & create mass hatred against all Foreign nations to start World War III, so his rich corporate financiers can take over afterwards and run everything.

Trump will be accused of eliminating all Federal health and safety standards just so his rich corporate friends can steal as much extra money as possible from people by offering them crappy products at high prices and polluting the sh*t out of our air and water since they no longer have to pay anymore to clean up their messes. (this also is an impeachable offense)

Trump will be accused of lining the pockets of his fat cat business donors who hold all the Military contracts that Trump is signing to build up the Armed forces. He will be accused of using taxpayer money to fund his corporate buddies toys, and sticking U.S. taxpayers with the bill. (impeachable)

Trump will be accused of creating new "Nazi style" internment camps rounding up all Latinos or Hispanic immigrants, then using them illegally as bargaining chips to threaten Mexico with so many people they cannot ever possibly hope to take care of. The end result will be to force these immigrants into slave labor camps where they won't get paid with any money doing hard labor for rich corporations, but the Media will accuse Trump of keeping their pay to claim Mexico is repaying costs of the wall. (impeachable)

Nancy Pelosi will accuse Trump of brainwashing supporters making them think the economy is really turning around when in fact he is only bleeding us dry to pay off his rich friends. (impeachable)

Chuck Schumer will accuse Trump of sending up worthless appointees to fill sub cabinet level positions in order to frustrate Democrats into just approving everyone. In reality he will claim the nominees all have ties to Russia. He will charge Trump's whole idea is to get them approved so fast and in such huge numbers that the Dems won't have a chance to vet them all properly or investigate their ties to Russia so they can easily funnel Government money being cut from the budget to help Trump's businesses being run by Putin in Russia. (impeachable)

Finally in my last prediction the Media will claim Trump wants Marshall Law to silence them, and lock them up in the White House basement so they can only report on what Trump wants them to see or hear. (impeachable)
 
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DvlDog4WVU

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Once proof emerges of the FISA requests to gather intelligence on Trump, the Left will then turn its attention to claiming Trump lied and said Obama ordered it.

Once no proof emerges to back the charge of Russians colluding with Trump, the Media will then try to blame Trump for creating the impression they did not try to influence the election when he knew all along they actually did.

Once no evidence emerges of any Trump official meetings to discuss influencing the election with Russians, the Media will then try to promote the idea that Trump actually crushed a full investigation into his ties with the Russians, which is why he still refuses to release all of his financial information.

The media will blame Trump for allowing Russians to hack the DNC, and they will blame him for planting bad information with them (Media) while whitewashing all of the bad information that was actually gathered on him while he was working with them.(Russians) This is impeachable.

The Left will accuse Republicans of hiding Russian involvement in the election in order to set Obama up and blame him for trying to expose their (Russian) activity.

Trump will be accused of using Russians to frame Obama and pin their (Russians) hacking and spying on the Dems and the Left. The actual spying on the Left will be blamed on Russians who were being paid by Trump to dig up dirt on the Democrats.

The Democrats in Congress will demand the entire Trump cabinet resign because of their attempts to destroy the Government by firing career bureaucrats. They will claim it's a political "cleansing" by Trump and his anti-Government forces, and the firings are impeachable offenses.

Democrats and the Left will claim Trump hates America, that's why he's alienating us from all of our Foreign trading partners, so he can tax their goods & create mass hatred against all Foreign nations to start World War III, so his rich corporate financiers can take over afterwards and run everything.

Trump will be accused of eliminating all Federal health and safety standards just so his rich corporate friends can steal as much extra money as possible from people by offering them crappy products at high prices and polluting the sh*t out of our air and water since they no longer have to pay anymore to clean up their messes. (this also is an impeachable offense)

Trump will be accused of lining the pockets of his fat cat business donors who hold all the Military contracts that Trump is signing to build up the Armed forces. He will be accused of using taxpayer money to fund his corporate buddies toys, and sticking U.S. taxpayers with the bill. (impeachable)

Trump will be accused of creating new "Nazi style" internment camps rounding up all Latinos or Hispanic immigrants, then using them illegally as bargaining chips to threaten Mexico with so many people they cannot ever possibly hope to take care of. The end result will be to force these immigrants into slave labor camps where they won't get paid with any money doing hard labor for rich corporations, but the Media will accuse Trump of keeping their pay to claim Mexico is repaying costs of the wall. (impeachable)

Nancy Pelosi will accuse Trump of brainwashing supporters making them think the economy is really turning around when in fact he is only bleeding us dry to pay off his rich friends. (impeachable)

Chuck Schumer will accuse Trump of sending up worthless appointees to fill sub cabinet level positions in order to frustrate Democrats into just approving everyone. In reality he will claim the nominees all have ties to Russia. He will charge Trump's whole idea is to get them approved so fast and in such huge numbers that the Dems won't have a chance to vet them all properly or investigate their ties to Russia so they can easily funnel Government money being cut from the budget to help Trump's businesses being run by Putin in Russia. (impeachable)

Finally in my last prediction the Media will claim Trump wants Marshall Law to silence them, and lock them up in the White House basement so they can only report on what Trump wants them to see or hear. (impeachable)
A couple are a little far fetched, a couple are spot on.
 

WVPATX

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Once proof emerges of the FISA requests to gather intelligence on Trump, the Left will then turn its attention to claiming Trump lied and said Obama ordered it.

Once no proof emerges to back the charge of Russians colluding with Trump, the Media will then try to blame Trump for creating the impression they did not try to influence the election when he knew all along they actually did.

Once no evidence emerges of any Trump official meetings to discuss influencing the election with Russians, the Media will then try to promote the idea that Trump actually crushed a full investigation into his ties with the Russians, which is why he still refuses to release all of his financial information.

The media will blame Trump for allowing Russians to hack the DNC, and they will blame him for planting bad information with them (Media) while whitewashing all of the bad information that was actually gathered on him while he was working with them.(Russians) This is impeachable.

The Left will accuse Republicans of hiding Russian involvement in the election in order to set Obama up and blame him for trying to expose their (Russian) activity.

Trump will be accused of using Russians to frame Obama and pin their (Russians) hacking and spying on the Dems and the Left. The actual spying on the Left will be blamed on Russians who were being paid by Trump to dig up dirt on the Democrats.

The Democrats in Congress will demand the entire Trump cabinet resign because of their attempts to destroy the Government by firing career bureaucrats. They will claim it's a political "cleansing" by Trump and his anti-Government forces, and the firings are impeachable offenses.

Democrats and the Left will claim Trump hates America, that's why he's alienating us from all of our Foreign trading partners, so he can tax their goods & create mass hatred against all Foreign nations to start World War III, so his rich corporate financiers can take over afterwards and run everything.

Trump will be accused of eliminating all Federal health and safety standards just so his rich corporate friends can steal as much extra money as possible from people by offering them crappy products at high prices and polluting the sh*t out of our air and water since they no longer have to pay anymore to clean up their messes. (this also is an impeachable offense)

Trump will be accused of lining the pockets of his fat cat business donors who hold all the Military contracts that Trump is signing to build up the Armed forces. He will be accused of using taxpayer money to fund his corporate buddies toys, and sticking U.S. taxpayers with the bill. (impeachable)

Trump will be accused of creating new "Nazi style" internment camps rounding up all Latinos or Hispanic immigrants, then using them illegally as bargaining chips to threaten Mexico with so many people they cannot ever possibly hope to take care of. The end result will be to force these immigrants into slave labor camps where they won't get paid with any money doing hard labor for rich corporations, but the Media will accuse Trump of keeping their pay to claim Mexico is repaying costs of the wall. (impeachable)

Nancy Pelosi will accuse Trump of brainwashing supporters making them think the economy is really turning around when in fact he is only bleeding us dry to pay off his rich friends. (impeachable)

Chuck Schumer will accuse Trump of sending up worthless appointees to fill sub cabinet level positions in order to frustrate Democrats into just approving everyone. In reality he will claim the nominees all have ties to Russia. He will charge Trump's whole idea is to get them approved so fast and in such huge numbers that the Dems won't have a chance to vet them all properly or investigate their ties to Russia so they can easily funnel Government money being cut from the budget to help Trump's businesses being run by Putin in Russia. (impeachable)

Finally in my last prediction the Media will claim Trump wants Marshall Law to silence them, and lock them up in the White House basement so they can only report on what Trump wants them to see or hear. (impeachable)

1. If any evidence is uncovered that Trump Tower was somehow surveilled (remember Politico published a piece just yesterday on how that could be done without FISA warrant), the media and the Dems will claim it was Trump's fault for being so friendly to Putin.
2. If evidence is uncovered of surveillance, someone other than Obama will take the fall (Lynch or some lower level flunky).
3. I don't think a wire tap was ordered (Comey is so certain that did not happen) and I think he is an honorable guy.
4. I don't know about FISA. Clapper insists a warrant was not issued (although he perjured himself with Congress, so he is not as trustworthy) and he is very, very anti-Trump.
5. As Andrew McCarthy said yesterday, a FISA Warrant could be uncovered by White House Counsel since it is an intelligence warrant rather than a criminal one.
6. Clapper said yesterday that he has seen ZERO evidence of any Trump or Trump campaign collusion with the Russians.
7. If no collusion is ever found, the media and the Dems will claim it exists but only in Trump's tax returns.
8. The media will blame Trump for the Congressional investigations taking so long because he forced them to look into this.
9. The Dems and the media will question Trump's sanity.
10. If no evidence of surveillance is uncovered, the Dems and some in the media will demand Trump's resignation.
11. The Dems will try to delay or stop Trump's Assistant AG nominee that would oversee the DOJ in all of these matters.
12. If surveillance is uncovered, the media/Dems will claim that Hillary was surveilled also and no real harm was done.
13. If surveillance is uncovered, the media will, for days even weeks, highlight the fact that Trump was the first President in U.S. history that was so unstable and so corrupt as requiring this kind of surveillance to ensure he was not being used by a foreign government.
14. The media will portray the surveillance agency as heroes for trying to ensure the safety of the country and honesty in government.
15. The media will do everything possible to keep Obama as far away from this as possible. They must protect the anointed one at all costs.
 
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Once proof emerges of the FISA requests to gather intelligence on Trump, the Left will then turn its attention to claiming Trump lied and said Obama ordered it.

The FISA Court has already stated there was no warrant. The FBI has already stated that Obama requested no warrant.

Once no proof emerges to back the charge of Russians colluding with Trump, the Media will then try to blame Trump for creating the impression they did not try to influence the election when he knew all along they actually did.

No one is saying there is currently hard evidence of collusion. All of the sane people are saying there is sufficient evidence to warrant further investigation. Flynn lied, Sessions lied, Roger Stone lied, Manafort resigned as campaign manager, Manafort couldn't give a straight answer when asked if Trump had economic ties to Russia, Trump won't release his tax returns, Carter Page has already been caught lying about his Russian connection....

The media will blame Trump for allowing Russians to hack the DNC, and they will blame him for planting bad information with them (Media) while whitewashing all of the bad information that was actually gathered on him while he was working with them.(Russians) This is impeachable.

You can't impeach the media. Maybe that's not what you meant; it was hard to understand.

Democrats and the Left will claim Trump hates America, that's why he's alienating us from all of our Foreign trading partners, so he can tax their goods & create mass hatred against all Foreign nations to start World War III, so his rich corporate financiers can take over afterwards and run everything.

I won't say Trump hates America but I will say, as President, Trump hates some of our democratic principles; a free press, an independent judicial branch and any other check and balance that limits his powers. He has already demonstrated this.

As far as predictions, I'll wait and let the investigation play out. It appears to me you are jumping to the conclusions you want to see or arguments you are trying to make (and what you believe already without considering all the evidence) rather than keeping on open and independent mind.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Trump hates some of our democratic principles; a free press, an independent judicial branch and any other check and balance that limits his powers. He has already demonstrated this.
Can you please provide examples of these?
 

WVPATX

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Can you please provide examples of these?

The FISA Court has already stated there was no warrant. The FBI has already stated that Obama requested no warrant.

He lost me with this one. FISA Court is highly secretive. Comey stated the FBI did not wire tap Trump Tower. He is a bit off on his facts.
 

MountaineerWV

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One of the major rules of building a fascist dictatorial state is: 1) Create an enemy

Right now, the media and the Obama administration are being touted as "the enemy of the state" by the current regime. My personal feelings are that I cannot wait until 2020, and to see if Trump relinquishes power easily if voted out of office?
 

atlkvb

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1. If any evidence is uncovered that Trump Tower was somehow surveilled (remember Politico published a piece just yesterday on how that could be done without FISA warrant), the media and the Dems will claim it was Trump's fault for being so friendly to Putin.
2. If evidence is uncovered of surveillance, someone other than Obama will take the fall (Lynch or some lower level flunky).
3. I don't think a wire tap was ordered (Comey is so certain that did not happen) and I think he is an honorable guy.
4. I don't know about FISA. Clapper insists a warrant was not issued (although he perjured himself with Congress, so he is not as trustworthy) and he is very, very anti-Trump.
5. As Andrew McCarthy said yesterday, a FISA Warrant could be uncovered by White House Counsel since it is an intelligence warrant rather than a criminal one.
6. Clapper said yesterday that he has seen ZERO evidence of any Trump or Trump campaign collusion with the Russians.
7. If no collusion is ever found, the media and the Dems will claim it exists but only in Trump's tax returns.
8. The media will blame Trump for the Congressional investigations taking so long because he forced them to look into this.
9. The Dems and the media will question Trump's sanity.
10. If no evidence of surveillance is uncovered, the Dems and some in the media will demand Trump's resignation.
11. The Dems will try to delay or stop Trump's Assistant AG nominee that would oversee the DOJ in all of these matters.
12. If surveillance is uncovered, the media/Dems will claim that Hillary was surveilled also and no real harm was done.
13. If surveillance is uncovered, the media will, for days even weeks, highlight the fact that Trump was the first President in U.S. history that was so unstable and so corrupt as requiring this kind of surveillance to ensure he was not being used by a foreign government.
14. The media will portray the surveillance agency as heroes for trying to ensure the safety of the country and honesty in government.
15. The media will do everything possible to keep Obama as far away from this as possible. They must protect the anointed one at all costs.


All I can say PAX to both your "predictions" and that absolutely bizarre list I suggested in which honest Leftists actually think is possible, is that we are living in strange times.

An 'alternate' universe of facts and fiction replacing one another as fantasy for Truth.

I agree with countryroads89 on one thing, we need to let the investigations play out but I'm not sure even after everything is fully understood that we'll all accept what is fact and what was fiction.

Unreal.
 
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atlkvb

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You can't impeach the media. Maybe that's not what you meant; it was hard to understand.


It isn't. The point of that prediction (and most of them on that totally fictional list) was to suggest the lengths you Folks on the Left and the Media are willing to travel to suggest Trump's (impeachment)

Your post (ie: the response to that lunacy I posted) proves my point. There really isn't much on my crazy prediction list that you think is really all that far off is it countryroads89?

After all you actually did seriously write this in response to one my crazy far out predictions:

''I won't say Trump hates America but I will say, as President, Trump hates some of our democratic principles; a free press, an independent judicial branch and any other check and balance that limits his powers. He has already demonstrated this.''

I rest my case.
 
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No, I haven't. I have yet to see where he doesn't like a Free Press and Independent Judicial branch as is the claim you made.

"The media is the enemy of the American public".
"Fake news".
"Very fake news".
Not inviting certain media companies to press events.
"Corrupt and crooked media".
"So called judges".
"Crooked 9th circuit".
 

atlkvb

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[QUOTE}="countryroads89, post: 1479963, member: 5410"]

"The media is the enemy of the American public".
" You trust them to report the facts countryroads89?

"Fake news".
They don't "make up" stories countryroads89?

"Very fake news".
They've never created a 'false narrative' then reported on it as fact countryroads89?

Not inviting certain media companies to press events.
Obama never tried to keep media from negative reporting on his administration countryroads 89? (Fox?)

"Corrupt and crooked media".
Trump's the first U.S. President to complain about media bias against him countryroads89 (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush never did this?)

"So called judges".
He's (Trump) not entitled to his opinions about biased politically motivated Judges countryroads89? All the Judges are fair and impartial, without political bias?

"Crooked 9th circuit"
Is this not THE most overturned circuit in the appellate's lower division countryroads89? Their sound legal decisions are always upheld?.
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DvlDog4WVU

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"The media is the enemy of the American public".
"Fake news".
"Very fake news".
Not inviting certain media companies to press events.
"Corrupt and crooked media".
"So called judges".
"Crooked 9th circuit".
I thought the first one was shown to have been "Fake news is the enemy of the American public"

Calling out obvious bias is a problem for you? I guess Obama was against a Free Press as well then?

The only thing on your list that I'm really in agreement with is the "So Called Judges". That one was out of line. Calling the 9th Circuit crooked is borderline, but it's certainly biased left. That is indisputable. Courts should not be ruling on political bias. It should rule on the law. If you don't agree with that statement, then I invite you to applaud every ruling of the future conservative SCOTUS.