Princeton grad transfer Ryan Langborg visiting NU this weekend
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It’s poor form to steal the spotlight before the kid makes his announcement. And yeah, I think it’s highly likely the source is the Rock. Typical InsideNU crap.
Seems like you're probably right in general, but I don't think about things like that until they happen... Let the player make the announcement.
Anyhow, it does seem like a good pickup for Collins and the program. What a natural fit for NU, picking up Ivy League guys who want to go to a great grad school, worthy of their own undergrad diplomas. By Ivy League rule they HAVE to transfer to play as grad students.
Lets just say its a nice recruiting advantage for NU basketball A significant one.
And it paid off with Langborg, who hopefully can give us a 3 point threat and some veteran minutes.
Makes me start to question (or wonder) what Audige and Buie are up to.
Unlikely. Even a freshman student journalist would know you can’t go out with a “breaking” without verifying with multiple sources, or hearing it straight from the horse’s mouth.
A newspaper or TV reporter who lost a valid scoop by waiting for a player to have his spotlight would be fired. Running the scoop is the opposite of poor journalistic form.
Rivals is a different kind of outlet. iNU and its parent company are more equivalent to traditional media.
Now, yes, if the source is The Rock rather than his own reporting, I would agree that’s not good. But that’s 1) a different problem and 2) pure speculation. Given that iNU doesn’t have a history of running Lou’s paywalled scoops as their own, at least as far as I know, it suggests that Stone simply had his own source. Kudos to him.
I’ve been a Rock subscriber for 15 years because I value the service Lou provides, and I think he’s the best news breaker among NU media if you’re willing to accept this kind of arrangement that he seems to have with his own sources. But let’s stop pretending that any other media member would care about these things unless they somehow got info under an embargo that they then violated. Which would be the end of the relationship with the source.
Well, Lou did an I predict. I'm not sure of the time line but Lou's "I Predict" are behind the pay wall but 99% accurate. Lou always presents it as a strong hunch not a done deal and it is on The Rock which as a pay to view site is not totally public. So a guy could get on The Rock and steal Lou's "Intuition" as fact.
It was not released publicly on Twitter/the Internet. Lou did not steal the spotlight from Langborg. Huge difference. Again, I’m not questioning the source…I’m pointing out how classless it is to announce the kid’s decision before the kid had a chance to do so himself. No self-respecting journalist would do this.
I remember reading about how Woodward and Bernstein famously waited for Nixon to resign before announcing their reporting…
Anyway, you were questioning the source. You said it was very likely they just read it on The Rock and reposted. That’s not how any journalist, which iNU styles themselves as (for better or worse) would do breaking reporting. They had sources, the sources didn’t tell them to keep it quiet, so they published. EVERY self-respecting journalist would publish if the source said it was ok.
I get you have some sort of issue with iNU (and they have deserved it in the past), but this isn’t it my man. It’s a place where everyone cycles through every couple of years. Whoever you are mad at is no longer there, you can relax.
The “kid” is like a 23 year old Princeton grad, he’s gonna be ok.
Obviously I have no idea who the source was here, but the person who broke this news did go to HS with one of Princeton's current players. That seems like a much more likely scenario than randomly browsing the Rock for scoops when he's not even an active part of Inside NU anymore.
Again…the source doesn’t matter. He shouldn’t have broken the news before the kid had a chance to announce publicly himself, thus stealing the kid’s moment. That’s my beef.
I'm trying to remember the last time I heard about an NFL or NBA free agent signing from the player himself. Heck, most news doesn't even get broken in a news article anymore.
Your beef is with the source, not the reporter.
It's utter nonsense to expect a reporter to sit on a story so that one of the principals can announce it publicly.
It is literally the antithesis of what is taught at Medill or practiced anywhere in the U.S.
Media with ethics…. Can we start with simply neutral and honest before easing the expectations?
I'm not in the business, but as a long-time consumer of news, I can tell you this seems like hogwash to me. We hear all the time about "embargoed" stories. Entertainment reporters (and don't be fooled, that's what we're talking about here) will almost always respect the source's timeline and restrictions in return for access.
Journalists break stories extraordinarily rarely. This is not the Pentagon Papers or Watergate. It's minor league basketball.
I want honest. Neutral is impossible, and claims to be attempting it are almost never honest.
Given a choice between...
A college senior lined up all of the sports media in another town and put them under an embargo as to his future plans;
and, a reporter living on the same campus, covering the same team that said senior just spent a couple days visiting and so was able to find a couple guys connected to the program who confirmed it....well, I'll go with the latter.
I am in the business and what you describe isn't really how it works. Media outlets compete against one another for scoops. They don't collectively agree to not report news because it's the nice, gentlemanly thing to do. You don't get a raise by agreeing to average.
Sources can work with one media outlet and embargo a story, IF THE REPORTER CONFIRMS THE EMBARGO. If a source communicates a fact/story to multiple outlets and punctuates before or after that the news is "embargoed." The source doesn't have an embargo. You don't get an embargo because you want one. You get it because all parties agreed.
And, as to stealing Lou's thunder. Lou wrote, "I predict." He did not write, "Langborg has committed."
So the InsideNU kid wore down some leather and tired out his iPhone and got a story confirmed. And you guys are like the frigging Purdue fans after the loss clutching your pearls and declaring, "Oh my. The officiating!"
The kid scooped everyone else.
Congrats to the kid.
A college senior lined up all of the sports media in another town and put them under an embargo as to his future plans;
and, a reporter living on the same campus, covering the same team that said senior just spent a couple days visiting and so was able to find a couple guys connected to the program who confirmed it....well, I'll go with the latter.
I am in the business and what you describe isn't really how it works. Media outlets compete against one another for scoops. They don't collectively agree to not report news because it's the nice, gentlemanly thing to do. You don't get a raise by agreeing to average.
Sources can work with one media outlet and embargo a story, IF THE REPORTER CONFIRMS THE EMBARGO. If a source communicates a fact/story to multiple outlets and punctuates before or after that the news is "embargoed." The source doesn't have an embargo. You don't get an embargo because you want one. You get it because all parties agreed.
And, as to stealing Lou's thunder. Lou wrote, "I predict." He did not write, "Langborg has committed."
So the InsideNU kid wore down some leather and tired out his iPhone and got a story confirmed. And you guys are like the frigging Purdue fans after the loss clutching your pearls and declaring, "Oh my. The officiating!"
The kid scooped everyone else.
Congrats to the kid.
Most transfer announcements are done by recruiting sites who offer to make a shiny graphic for social media in exchange for the exclusive rights to post the “scoop” on Twitter and Instagram.
Correct!! And always done in conjunction with the recruit. The understanding is that insiders don’t announce a kid’s choice until he has chosen to announce on his own.
It’s not like the sites are being totally benevolent, yes they’re working with the recruits but they’re doing it so they get credit for the scoop.
Also, we have no indication of whether or not Langborg approved of this info being leaked on Twitter. It is clear that he doesn’t use his own Twitter account (last post was in 2016).