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80 Proof

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If you know it is false provide proof or did you get it from some conspiracy theory website. 🤣

Trust me the large majority of KY teachers are begging to get back to in person instruction. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either an idiot or clueless.

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And don't get it wrong, I'm not complaining about the teachers.

But the teachers union is garbage and right now is causing more harm for short term gain than they will ever make up in the long term. Same can be said for most all public employee unions.
 

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Which is it have school been open all or a portion of the year or have teachers unions forced schools to close? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You literally said both they "HAVE NOT" been forced to close and then the next paragraph said "teachers union have forced the closure of in person education". You are giving way too much credit to the teachers union. The decision has been from each district and for most it has depended on how many COVID cases they have in their county/city. I don't know what your hatred for educators stems from but it is obvious you have an ax to grind and its sad really.
Teachers unions delayed starts of both semesters state wide and have forced closed the 2 largest school systems in the state for a year. Other, less influenced, districts have safely opened. Private schools not under the purview of the union have been open the entire time. Globally schools have been open since early Summer. Nationally 50% of schools have been open since Fall. It's no coincidence where the schools remain closed. Major metropolitan and heavily red districts.

Fayette was under the threshold for in person school nearly half the fall semester and never returned. So, no.

Yeah, I have an ax to grind. They're needlessly harming our children to play political games. When this clearly isn't about the kids or safety. So I'm pretty f*cking pissed off. How they sleep at night is beyond me.
 

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^ Could seriously post 100 of those. You can't find 1 that says otherwise. They even discredited the Israel study after review

If you want unbiased facts on schools from basically every newspaper or study in America, visit the reopn schools thread. Everything from major universities worldwide to NYT.

To date - WHO, CDC, Fauci, American Association or Pediatrics all have said children are safer in person learning. TS. Kentucky Teachers Union, not safe even with vaccines.
 
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Do you get a statement from the church saying you received no goods or services in exchange for your donation?

You get a giving statement just as you would from any other church. You are not presented a bill. You are just taught the importance of giving and to give as you are able.

It's a system that works when most people stay in one locale generationally. It works really well, frankly. Everyone has a vested interest in seeing your family educated in the way that you see fit.

The parents resources have always been stretched thin throughout time. The grandparents and extended family pickup the slack.

It starts to fall apart when your grandchildren are not in the system. Then you see some families drop their kids off at the door without thinking about any further obligation while 80% of your property tax bill goes to the public school in town.

There are lots of needless arguments at church voter's meetings by doing it this way. I've been saying their days were numbered when I met my wife 25 years ago, but it's still going.
 

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From that Alantic article. Perfectly said:

  • Distribute high-quality scientific information. Most important, educate teachers about the lower transmission risk of young students—and the ongoing necessity of COVID-19 protocols—to get their enthusiastic buy-in, which will naturally be contingent on our success at reducing community spread and accelerating vaccination.

I don’t blame teachers for keeping schools closed yet. I blame the government and the media. Public communication about this disease has been horrendous, and the Trump White House was a fount of nonsense. Meanwhile, some journalists and professionals, in an attempt to fight back against Trump’s disinformation, leaned too heavily into COVID pessimism and clung to outdated fears about secondary spread among young kids. That’s made a lot of people unnecessarily concerned that kids are silent vectors for this disease, and made teachers feel like they were being thrown to the wolves in a country that has failed in just about every pandemic test. If I were a teacher relying on information from the mainstream press—especially a teacher in a pandemic pod that included immunocompromised relatives—I might be pretty scared of going back to school.

Under the banner of safety, too many people have passed along alarmist information that has contributed to a lot of misery. Americans have to learn, and accept, that the preponderance of evidence simply doesn’t support the fears that govern school policy today.
 
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Creed likes to stir up some **** now.
 

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If you know it is false provide proof or did you get it from some conspiracy theory website. 🤣

Trust me the large majority of KY teachers are begging to get back to in person instruction. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either an idiot or clueless.

I keep hearing the same garbage from teachers. "Don't blame me I want to be back in school".
While I think that's mostly true, you backed the teachers union, you propped them up, so don't cry now with all the decisions they are making. You made this bed, don't run from it now.
 

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Creed likes to stir up some **** now.

What am I trying to stir up? I am just telling you that I am married to a teacher, have a daughter that is currently doing her student teaching and have probably 20-30 friends that are teachers and none of them have liked virtual learning and they all want to go back to in class instruction.
 
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I keep hearing the same garbage from teachers. "Don't blame me I want to be back in school".
While I think that's mostly true, you backed the teachers union, you propped them up, so don't cry now with all the decisions they are making. You made this bed, don't run from it now.

Again why are you lumping everyone together. Don't assume all teacher are okay with the teachers union.
 

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Schools closed based on the number of active covid cases in their city,county and the decision came from the schools administration not orders from the teacher union. What kind of conspiracy theory juice are you guys drinking this morning?
Again why are you lumping everyone together. Don't assume all teacher are okay with the teachers union.
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What am I trying to stir up? I am just telling you that I am married to a teacher, have a daughter that is currently doing her student teaching and have probably 20-30 friends that are teachers and none of them have liked virtual learning and they all want to go back to in class instruction.
I actually think you both are right. Unfortunately in the day and age of snowflake minority driving the majority of the action you get situations like this. 75% want to go back to in person, 15% could care less one way or another, 10% don't want to go back. The 10% win because they are the loudest and threaten the most. The world is a much different place today than it was 20 years ago from that perspective.
 
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Under no circumstance will I let my children go to public school. There are good teachers there but by and large it’s just another politicized bureaucracy whose sole interest is its own power. Throw in the political indoctrination now seeping down from universities into grade school and it’s absolutely a non-starter.
So instead you want them indoctrinated by people who want a Christian nationalist state ala The Handmiad’s Tale?
 
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I’d rather send any potential future children of mine to a decent public school than a religious school. Don’t need them being indoctrinated with some fairy tale religious propaganda.

My parents, who are both devout Christians, briefly sent my brother to one of the private Christian schools. Pulled him out after less than a year because of all the ******** they were teaching there. And my mother is so brainwashed by right wing extremists online that she’s one step away from advocating for concentration/death camps for anyone who isn’t an American white, heterosexual, Christian, or conservative, so it sure wasn’t over any liberal teachings.

My parents got me out of private school when I was young for a bunch of BS as well. That said it's a different world today and not all private schools are like that. I've got my kids in private school and don't have a single complaint. They don't push religion too much and have my kids learning things I learned much later on or not at all.

The liberal indoctrination taking place in public schools is FAR FAR FAR worse than any religious indoctrination at any private school.

As for your mom, I feel sorry for her as she probably feels like a total failure every time she looks at her son.

Sorry, son is a gender pronoun, so does "it" work?
 

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I’d rather send any potential future children of mine to a decent public school than a religious school. Don’t need them being indoctrinated with some fairy tale religious propaganda.

My parents, who are both devout Christians, briefly sent my brother to one of the private Christian schools. Pulled him out after less than a year because of all the ******** they were teaching there. And my mother is so brainwashed by right wing extremists online that she’s one step away from advocating for concentration/death camps for anyone who isn’t an American white, heterosexual, Christian, or conservative, so it sure wasn’t over any liberal teachings.

Went to both. Spent most of my years in a Private Catholic Military school, then private christian college. We had religious courses every semester. Some were classes about Christianity some were about history like Reformation, some were about other religions or something spiritual like "death as a fact of life". I got far more out of these schools in regards to discipline, accountability and character than anything pertaining to religion.

I don't think the private religious schools in the 2020's are anything like what they were for my parents back in the 50's and 60's. If there's somethiong a liberal wants to be angry about over private schools for.. a lot of them do set you up nicely, even if you don't necessarily earn it. Going to a private school certainly opens more doors.

But what should REALLY alarm you is not the folks who are catholic, who send their kids to a catholic school, to learn about catholic things... but instead, folks who send their kids to a public school for a normal education only to get a bunch of left-leaning political **** thrown their way. That is a huge difference. Don't like catholic school teachings? Don't go. But there isn't much you can do about a left-wing tenured nut-job as a public school teacher... and boy, there are FAR more of them than some god-fearing elderly women in 2020..
 

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.. I mean, can you imagine the outcry if this was reversed??

Libs had to spend money to go learn "their" ideologies, or for free, which is the only option for 90% of America, they could go learn a bunch of catholic ****. Oh man... the ensuing riots lol.
 

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There’s a lot of misguided anger in blaming the “teacher’s union” for Covid school closures in Kentucky. The “teacher’s union” only exists as a true union (ability to bargain for a contract with pay, benefits, and set working conditions) in just a handful of counties in the state. Why? Because Kentucky is a no-bargain state for public employed unions unless the employer has specifically granted them bargaining rights (such as Jefferson and Fayette). So, if you’re pissed off about Covid school closures, the only way the “teacher’s union” had any role in the closure is if the local school board in that district has granted them the right to have a voice in their working conditions.
 

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Public school should be abolished. It’s nothing more than a system designed to make obedient office drones/factory workers.