Private School
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All I know is we need more schools willing to allow kids inside of them because the only schools that allow kids inside of them have a waiting list.
False. False. False. I speak from a position of knowledge.
As far as attrition, everyone is dealing with higher than normal turnover due to the COVID unemployment payments. The good workers that were let go at the beginning are only recently returning to work.
What we were left with was a bunch of people that didn't qualify for the extra $600 due to work history. A lot of those people jumped from job to job hoping to get fired, then claim it was due to the 99.7% survivable virus.
Has any group done as much to destroy its reputation/brand as teachers in recent history? Teachers, for most of my life, were one of the group of celebrated positions - cops, firefighters, teachers, nurses, a pretty short list - that society not only approved bit admired. Who didn't like teachers (I mean, as a group, of course there were always bad individual actors)? I think this Covid stain won't go away any time soon. And in Kentucky at least, the pension stuff was equally damaging. Who has a pension in 2021? Not many.
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There is nothing false about what I said it. Call centers have always had high turnover because the job has always been **** and the pay has always been ****. COVID has nothing to do with that.
Is it a tough job? Is turnover normally higher than some industries?Yes. Did COVID push that number upward? 100% yes.
If you have thick skin and don't take things personally, you can absolutely make a good living in a call center...depending on the center, of course.
I'm not in the industry but know some that are that has collectors making over 50k/year with performance bonuses. Supervisors 50+ bonus, Managers 60+ bonus and
Again, this isn't my opinion, this is a stone cold fact.
I've worked in 2 call centers. One was for AT&T. It was the best paying job I've ever hard. It was also the most miserable job I've ever had. I lasted 5 months. Half of my training class quit the first day on the phone. It was 8 hours of day of getting yelled at. If it wasn't a customer yelling at your it was your supervisor. Walked out everyday hating myself and developed a serious drinking problem from it.
Other was for Xerox. Made a whopping $10 an hour. Wasn't terrible. Except for God knows what reason my management team wouldn't listen to me. I was a CSR for Metlife Tricare dental insurance (they contracted Xerox to run the call centers). I HATED talking to members but liked talking to dental offices. The majority of my coworkers hated talking to the dental officers but liked talking to members. My boss would always have me talk to members (which i hated) and had my coworkers talking to dental offices (which they hated). He REFUSED to budge. Made no sense
Other was for Xerox. Made a whopping $10 an hour. Wasn't terrible. Except for God knows what reason my management team wouldn't listen to me. I was a CSR for Metlife Tricare dental insurance (they contracted Xerox to run the call centers). I HATED talking to members but liked talking to dental offices. The majority of my coworkers hated talking to the dental officers but liked talking to members. My boss would always have me talk to members (which i hated) and had my coworkers talking to dental offices (which they hated). He REFUSED to budge. Made no sense
Or just school choice...I shouldn't have to go to your dump just bc I live in some imaginary lines
I wouldn’t work customer service or call center for a telecom, medical, internet company unless I got paid $100K for it with all the ******** you have to deal with over the phone. If you are going to make me work 40 hours a week doing work that makes me constantly question if humanity was a mistake then you better be paying me damn well.
I’ve had recruiters for one of the local internet companies reach out to me on Indeed about working in their call center. I had been a customer for them in a previous area I had lived and knew their product was awful. As soon as I read the name of the company in the first sentence I deleted the message.
They are ALWAYS having jobs for their call center posted, I see several posted every week, and this has been going on for at least 2 years running now. And they actually pay decently for a call center job around here, like $15+ an hour + night shift bonus. Their turnover rate has to be above 100%
Everywhere else practically brags that you can get like $12 an hour if you work third shift as if that’s some kind of amazing pay to get **** on by people for 8 hours a day.
It’s not a public school system, it’s a union shope school system. Nothing public about it at all.
I live in the one of the best public school districts in California. Property valuations/rent here are outrageous as a result. Teacher salaries are through the roof...close to $100k. The HS Superintendent makes close to $300k. The Elementary/Middle Super makes close to $400k. Yet we sit at home...and sit...and sit...and sit.
I wish I could send my kids to private school, but tuition and fees for the St X equivalent here is close to $30k. The KCD equivalent is close to $60k. We can’t afford that for 3 kids.
So at home we sit. Teachers and administrators are getting paid 100%. And my kids are suffering.
I wish I could send my kids to private school, but tuition and fees for the St X equivalent here is close to $30k. The KCD equivalent is close to $60k. We can’t afford that for 3 kids.
So at home we sit. Teachers and administrators are getting paid 100%. And my kids are suffering.
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My ex and I put two through Catholic schools. They tend to be less expensive than some private schools, but still expensive. We always got parishioner discount and financial aid to reduce the bill.
Second wife and I have our youngest in a private school for academically gifted kids with ADHD / autism. For the program it’s not bad, just under $10,000/year and our income is higher, we write a check each semester. Then one kid in college but full scholarship.
And a niece and nephew at LCA
Second wife and I have our youngest in a private school for academically gifted kids with ADHD / autism. For the program it’s not bad, just under $10,000/year and our income is higher, we write a check each semester. Then one kid in college but full scholarship.
And a niece and nephew at LCA
That’s cool that there is a school like that for your youngest.
This will probably harelip our resident wacko Boston, but public sector unions should be ruled unconstitutional. Unlike private sector unions, where management represents stockholders and union leaders represent labor in a dispute, there is no designated body representing tax payers in the public sphere. Instead you are left with large unions who funnel political donations to a specific party, only to receive it back ten fold in tax dollars. A lot of the public education systems problems would go away if their union was dissolved.
School board elections are heavily influenced by teachers unions.
Starting to look like my kid's class is going to complete the year with less than 2 weeks lost due to Covid. The board and principle were determined with apparently the necessary resources and space to pull this off.
Public schools can exist because of private education. If every person who homeschooled and sent their kids to private ed decided to put their kids in tax funded public schools, the system would collapse and property taxes would shoot up.
That would entail billions of dollars in existing facilities and real estate of private schools appearing in the public school systems coffers. The districts would expand to include the private schools, the tuition needed to maintain the previously private facilities and salaries would be spread out over more people and it would hum right along.
I guess the private schools do a better job at teaching the concept of martyrdom, though. Nice dramatic post!
In this hypothetical, private school ends and the government seizes private assets.
Even eminent domain pays low ball market value.
Would say the last 10 months would indicate the public schools are very versed in martyrdom. They were protesting while carrying cardboard tombstones with their names on it.
The government gets all private facilities (which are presumably nicer than public) for rock bottom prices and has to absorb at whopping 14% more students (88% are public currently).
Of those 14% more students, they are a better crop of kids for the teachers, because private schools can kick out problem kids where public schools can’t.
The previously private school families taxes go up - but their overall cost go down, and the public families that actually pay taxes go up - but not as the high earners who previously went to private school in the first place.
Oh, what a collapse!
Yeah, that shows a real understanding of government in a democratic republic. LOL
Government seizes private assets? The communist thoughts are running wild here.
Where did you learn that government gets to take private property just because??? Wow!!
And, who would claim that even a 14% increase in students could be budgeted by public schools. I love this shallow pool analysis.
Where did you get that every private school in the country would shut down and every kid would go to public school just because??? Wow!!
Where did I say that? Look, you don’t have to fabricate my comments so that you can have your opinion. Just have your opinion.
I think his argument is that public school is teetering on the edge of collapse and all of the kids attending private school (while paying property taxes) are doing it as a favor to everyone in public school.
Otherwise, the public schools couldn’t absorb an increase of 14% in student population. Without property taxes going through the roof to make up for it!!!
Meanwhile only 40% of households paying property tax have children. And only 12% of school kids go to to private/home school.
That leaves 4.8% of the households paying property taxes graciously holding their kids out of public school.
Meanwhile, the other 60% of households are already paying without school aged anyway.
There would be no way to make up for a 5% shortfall. Schools are always overfunded and this would send them into calamity they’ve never been faced with before.
Back when i was sending my kids to a catholic school in Louisville, they tried using tithing as a means of paying the tuition for a couple of years. if you were a member of the church you could Tithe what you thought was a fair amount. They wouldn't reveal exactly what the amount should be but really hinted around it. If it was considered a tithe, then much of it could be written off, however, I think too many took advantage of the chance to not tithe a fair amount so they ended the experiment.