Probable Cause

79eer

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Allan Dershowitz, far Right Rubublican, Harvard Law Professor, “there is now probable cause” to investigate corruption in previous administration, that may have gone all the way to the White House. ........... my mistake, Dershowitz is a registered Liberal Democrat. ....... for you elderly gentlemen, .......... sound familiar?
 
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roadtrasheer

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I do believe something went on , how deep or how far up is left to be seen & it makes me sick to think with all our checks & balance in the system it has gotten this far ...we need a 3rd party , both parties is corrupt & power hungry just happens to be the democrats getting caught at this time
 

TarHeelEer

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Allan Dershowitz, far Right Rubublican, Harvard Law Professor, “there is now probable cause” to investigate corruption in previous administration, that may have gone all the way to the White House. ........... my mistake, Dershowitz is a registered Liberal Democrat. ....... for you elderly gentlemen, .......... sound familiar?

We've got to get memo2, probably memo3(searches and unmaskings), Grassley memo, and IG report out. Then it'll be serious.
 

The Dunedein

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.
 

roadtrasheer

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.
Hell yeah brother speak the truth. ..
 

dave

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.
I agree and whoever investigates it needs to not have any ties to DC if that person exists.
 

Shirley Knott

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I agree and whoever investigates it needs to not have any ties to DC if that person exists.
All the whining by the left and policing heads about not releasing names was ridiculous. Put names and faces to the illegal activities and imprison the entire bunch...If a conservative is involved , jail him too.
 

atlkvb

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it makes me sick to think with all our checks & balance in the system it has gotten this far ...we need a 3rd party , both parties is corrupt & power hungry just happens to be the democrats getting caught at this time

This. They're all corrupt and not to be trusted. We need people with integrity and committment to the Constitution serving. Not folks ego driven or power mad and interested only in maintaining the power that feeds their corrupted egos!
 
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atlkvb

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We've got to get memo2, probably memo3(searches and unmaskings), Grassley memo, and IG report out. Then it'll be serious.

I personally would like to know what that FISA judge was told that was a serious threat to our national security? Who was the threat Page? Trump? Why issue those warrants without that documentation? Trump knows because he's seen the actual applications, but what made the FISA court still issue those approvals to bug Page and Trump tower?

That's the part of this story that's got me the most intrigued.
 

atlkvb

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What did the President know and when did he know it!

My hunch is he got daily briefings on the transcripted conversations that were illegally recorded. Probably approved more of 'em! Of course I can't prove that, but look at his ears. Big as megaphones and always "itching".

Creep.
 

atlkvb

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Not a hunch. That's what Nune's viewed that sent him to the White House.

He likely would have been briefed daily if it involved national security. NSA or Dept of Homeland Security, as well as his daily intel breifings would have included this, particularly if he was already in on the FISA snooping from knowledge within his own DOJ!

He knew... he had to know.
 

atlkvb

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.

Perfectly stated!

ANY and ALL lawbreaking no matter who was involved in it needs to be prosecuted and the guilty punished. I'm tired of the double standards, or "too big to prosecute" levels of Justice we've seen lately. In our system, no man is above the Law, no one gets any "favors" due to their political status or social notoriety. Criminals should go to jail where criminals belong.

Lock 'em all up, I don't care what party they belong to or who the Hell it is!
 

eerdoc

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Allan Dershowitz, far Right Rubublican, Harvard Law Professor, “there is now probable cause” to investigate corruption in previous administration, that may have gone all the way to the White House. ........... my mistake, Dershowitz is a registered Liberal Democrat. ....... for you elderly gentlemen, .......... sound familiar?
May be a Dempcrat, but appears to be a very honest person and no ideologue. He respects the LAW and what he says is in line with the law, not opinions that are based on party politics.
 

atlkvb

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All the whining by the left and policing heads about not releasing names was ridiculous. Put names and faces to the illegal activities and imprison the entire bunch...If a conservative is involved , jail him too.
:clap:
 

eerdoc

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I personally would like to know what that FISA judge was told that was a serious threat to our national security? Who was the threat Page? Trump? Why issue those warrants without that documentation? Trump knows because he's seen the actual applications, but what made the FISA court still issue those approvals to bug Page and Trump tower?

That's the part of this story that's got me the most intrigued.
Surprised the involved FISA judge has not taken actions against those who pulled the wool over his eyes. Some have said that he could hold several of those involved in contempt of court for their actions. He has to be pissed that he was so misled.
 

atlkvb

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May be a Dempcrat, but appears to be a very honest person and no ideologue. He respects the LAW and what he says is in line with the law, not opinions that are based on party politics.

I've come to respect him more recently, because of his fidelity to the Constitution. He's always been on the Left, but so far he's been spot on calling out the violations of our Constitutional separation of Powers, due process, and other important legal standards of jurisprudence. I can't disagree with anything I've heard him articulate about any of that, although I do disagree with his politics.
 

atlkvb

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Surprised the involved FISA judge has not taken actions against those who pulled the wool over his eyes. Some have said that he could hold several of those involved in contempt of court for their actions. He has to be pissed that he was so misled.

I'm not too sure we won't see that in the coming weeks ahead. If the FISA applications are allowed to be viewed by the public, I'd think prosectutions are coming because it is a felony to misrepresent facts or lie to the FISA court. Just because it's private doesn't mean laws against perjury and deceit don't apply. If anything they have to be more careful because they are usurping our rights to privacy and not telling any of us ahead of time!
 

eerdoc

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I'm not too sure we won't see that in the coming weeks ahead. If the FISA applications are allowed to be viewed by the public, I'd think prosectutions are coming because it is a felony to misrepresent facts or lie to the FISA court. Just because it's private doesn't mean laws against perjury and deceit don't apply. If anything they have to be more careful because they are usurping our rights to privacy and not telling any us ahead of time!
"...Lock HER/THEM up...!!!"
 

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atlkvb

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Where's the FISA snoopping on that conversation?

They probably all sat around blowing Mary Jane and playing acid rock from the 60's while listening in on Trump and his campaign staff planning their next "national security threatneing" political rally.

Damn parasites.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.
Sounds like you want to Drain the Swamp.
 

Airport

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If Obama did something illegal, hold him accountable. If Clinton did something illegal, hold her accountable. If Trump did something illegal, hold him accountable. Let's have an unfettered investigation of all three of them and let the chips fall where they may. Let's investigate the Congressmen/women and Senators, too. I'm sick of all of them. Whoever is in power at the moment, anymore, tends to demonize the other party and place preservation of power above what's good for the country. Open up those e-mails, servers, texts, tax returns, financial documents, etc., and make it all transparent. Put all the cards on the table and let's see what's what.
You do realize the FBI destroyed a lot of the dems laptops, emails etc?
 

Airport

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Liberals will never turn on their leaders like a John Dean or other Senators.You can forget about Obama and probably Hilliary. Lower level liberals will commit hari kari before they turn on those two.