Problem with public schools
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Ha, I wasn't a bad kid, at least not in the way of committing armed robbery like others who ended up there. But I wasn't meant for public schools. I struggled concentrating, especially with girls around. My parents figured I needed more structure and discipline. The school I went to was very military oriented.. the only thing it wasn't was a boarding school. But we had drill every week, wore the green BDU's and dress blues, had inspection, cleaned rifles..
What that school lacked in curriculum (one foreign language, teachers throwing together classes last second), it made up for in discipline and the general ability to be a man.
A family friend is a big business owner in the area, he ended up sending his kid to this school about 10 years after me. He was blown away when he visited the campus and said "Every student looked you in the eye, they held the door, they had manners"..
Yes, everything about Tim Tebow screams “average.”
Try to read before posting. It works wonders.
So your solution to failing public schools is to pay the teachers less, which would mean the good teachers currently in the system will have more incentive to leave and the good teachers that aren't in the system will have less incentive to join?
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I knew there had to be naughty lunch ladies.
I knew there had to be naughty lunch ladies.
Do you think that the parents of home-schooled kids skew higher in caring and doing something for their kids? In other words...if we fixed the parents wouldn't we pretty much fix the schools? I think that teachers are underpaid considering that they absolutely have no control over the kids and are still held to a standard. I wish that parents were held accountable for their kids' performance.
This. The deterioration of functional families is way more than schools can fix.
He still can't get laid.
So yeah.
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Timmy isn't a good example. While home schooled, he also lived abroad, and was a stud athlete who participated in sports year round.
A much better example would be the oldest daughter of a friend who has home schooled all 5 of their kids. He and his wife are both college grads, but they have pretty much sheltered the kids other than letting them socialize from time to time with other home schooled kids. This past fall, his oldest went to college at Liberty, and came home after the first semester when she was struggling badly in her main courses and struggling to adapt socially. His oldest son says he's not going to college and he has some personality disorders. After the problems with the two oldest, he told me that he intends to enroll the three youngest in public schools this August. The academics of home schooling are one thing, but if you keep your kids inside your own social bubble, you're doing them a great disservice.
I've had hundreds of parents tell me their reason for home-schooling was to keep their kids from being influenced by the crap that they would see in public schools. I understand and respect parents who care and are proactive, but in most cases, this thinking is flawed. My response to parents was always this: You can insulate them but eventually, they are going to encounter the garbage the world will throw at them. IMO, it's best to have it thrown at them in little bits, while they are young AND while you can spend time and teach them about what they are dealing with and/or how to deal properly with situations the world will present. It's unavoidable that one day, they will go out on their own. If they have not been properly acclimated and taught how to respond to the world, they will either go nuts or they will isolate themselves. Neither is good.
Bingo.
And, although I was a public school 80s kid, my mom tried to shelter me from everything - music, movies, TV, video games, etc.
She meant well, but all the things she told me were evil, became my favorite things.
Sheltering children, which is what homeschool is, often achieves the opposite of what it's intended to do. Big deal if little Tommy hears a cuss word or Slayer song. It won't kill him. But, keeping little Tommy from the actual world by putting him in a bubble will do more harm than good, IMO.
Finally, public school was where I learned to socialize with people who looked different than me. I learned empathy. I learned to try to walk a mile in someone else's shoes before passing judgment. I learned just talking to someone who is lonely can brighten a day. I also learned how to roll blunts, take whiskey shots, smoke cigarettes and chase girls. So, take the good with the not-so-good. Lol.
Why not just amend SB1? And why didn't they allow any public comment or an actuarial analysis which is required by KRS? It was attached to the end of a waste water bill which is only fitting since it was crap. Very little time given for any discussion.
GOOD public school teachers are underpaid. Unfortunately, there are lots of bad public school teachers and they are probably overpaid.
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A lot of budget based bills went through today .. many if not all went through with no time to look and discuss all the details but instead because they’re running short on time and need something on the table
Teachers are protesting for the lower-middle class. The tax cuts are going to the upper class and benefiting cooperations similar to the federal level
This bill was a skeleton of a SB1 with requested deletions. If they were adding to it, they could have added addendums. But they didn't add to it, they deleted from it. Deletions means it falls under new legislation.
And there was actuarial analysis, 66 pages to be exact.
Scroll down to the bottom, the entire 66 page actuarial analysis is included.
That's what's so perplexing about this issue, 99% of what you idiots are upset about, are absolute lies. And you sheep gobble them all up.
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Maybe the ones of the past. Certainly not nowadays. We know a few homeschooled kids. There’s a brother and sister duo who run their own egg business and live on a farm, they supply restaurants with their organic eggs, take flying lessons, do martial arts and horseback riding and the boy is in Boy Scouts.
The boy was also reading books about World War II from different perspectives and tests well-above his peers.
Homeschool is not like the ones from the 80s and 90s. It’s way more advanced nowadays and has tons of social stuff.
Certainly beats worried about getting jumped at school or even shot while learning about 87 different genders and how everything is racist.
The problem here has multiple facets:
1. Law requires a single salary schedule. Thus an average teacher with 10 years experience is paid the same as an excellent teacher with 10 years experience.
2. When in the profession, we looked at how to differentiate compensation based on performance. The problem is coming up with objective data on which to make salary decisions. That is an extraordinarily difficult task due to the many factors that impact student performance and thus teacher performance.
3. Many admins don't have the fortitude to get rid of a teacher right after their first average or worse year in the classroom. If a first year teacher was not on track to be as good as the top 15% teachers in your school, you should get rid of them quickly and take your chances with someone else. I get being compassionate, but the community is entrusting you with providing excellence in the classroom,
There have been attempts to come up with a merit based pay system but it was always based on someone's opinion of how well a teacher performed. In my experience, some of the most requested, desired teachers were popular because of things other than student performance: well known socially, daughter of so and so; member of such and such family. Some of the best teachers I knew as an admin were teachers that were not popular or well-known, but hard-working, kid-centered and driven to help kids learn.
There are a few home schools that do a fantastic job. I know one lady that home schooled her 6 children. All ended up being college grads and very successful. In Ky,however, there is NO monitoring of home schools, though they are legally required to provide students with 6 hours of instruction. I personally know of one home school student who is all alone during the day. His parents "tell" him to do his schooling on line but do not hold him accountable. At best, he works a couple hours a day. He has "school phobia".
Well my example was from Lexington. Your example is certainly sad but I guess like with anything, there’s good and there’s bad. But homeschool certainly doesn’t make people automatic weirdos anymore.
Public school is a sewer today. The indoctrination, the lazy teachers and worrying about the violence is certainly not something that appeals to me and my wife for our kids.
I interact with a lot of home school children and families - more than I ever thought I would - maybe they are more popular in the rural community that I work in. 99% are very odd, shy, and extremely awkward socially. Which, quite frankly, is not surprising when you consider that their freaking mom is their teacher and 95% of the time they are in their house. I mean how anybody thinks that's a remotely good idea is completely baffling to me.
And why someone would think their wife is a better teacher than their child having at least 25 or more different teachers growing up with different styles and different strengths that their child will need to adapt to is baffling to me. My anatomy and physiology teacher in 11th grade was one of the best teachers I've ever had in my life and I was in school 13 years past high school. I still remember my physics teacher senior year and our history teacher in the 9th grade was a mad woman but I learned a hell of a lot in that class. I can only imagine my mommy (LOL) teaching me those classes and trying to discipline me in our living room. How ridiculous and idiotic. Whoever said homeschooling is child abuse I agree with.
And why someone would think their wife is a better teacher than their child having at least 25 or more different teachers growing up with different styles and different strengths that their child will need to adapt to is baffling to me. My anatomy and physiology teacher in 11th grade was one of the best teachers I've ever had in my life and I was in school 13 years past high school. I still remember my physics teacher senior year and our history teacher in the 9th grade was a mad woman but I learned a hell of a lot in that class. I can only imagine my mommy (LOL) teaching me those classes and trying to discipline me in our living room. How ridiculous and idiotic. Whoever said homeschooling is child abuse I agree with.
Why do legislators need a retirement plan? Don’t most have a real job? Why are they offered a pension?
To be fair, there were house and senate members who agreed with folks who say that there was not a proper analysis done of the final bill. I think neither you nor I know the exact timeline of when the refill reading and analysis of 151 was done but the language in the report you linked seems fair. Right or wrong, on whichever side you fall, this bill is far from being final. It might be passed already and soon to be signed, but the courts should still have something to say about it.
Despite what anyone things of the bill, it has been an important lesson about how work really gets done in Frankfort (and everywhere else). Whether that will have any repercussions in the voting booth remains to be seen. It’s been going on for years but this one was so visible that the side that was ‘caught’ (not my word) doing it may have to pay. And then it will just happen again ... and again ... and again .... it’s politics.
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Haven’t yal been paying attention to the paddock? The problem is all these young women teachers with their maters throbbing trying to **** all the kids.
Or naughty threads period? Real dry spell we are having right now. FML
When I was still in the business, the MAJORITY of kids being home schooled were kids who either had constant discipline problems and the parents didn't want to deal with the trouble in the schools OR kids with truancy problems. Some parents would "sign their kids up" for home schools when they saw the writing on the wall: that they were going to be taken to court for truancy.
Our directive to the principals and dpp was NEVER to make a deal with parents relative to discipline or attendance. If their behavior warranted court referral, they should be referred REGARDLESS of a parent switching districts or opting for home school. It was always interesting when they went to court and the judge would nix both.
We had some lazy admins that wanted to just get rid of problems. We disciplined admins when or if the encouraged kids to drop-out, move to another district or home school. The directive was to put the heat on both the kids and their parents. We kept a lot of kids in school.
How about when little Tommy gets his head filled with nothing but SJW garbage and starts to idolize communism and thinks there's 87 genders and everything is "racist?" while having to worry about some psycho shooting up his school?
Wouldn't your friend be better off putting them in a private school? Better environment, better education, safer and probably better socially.
The government can't do a damn thing right yet people want public schools raising their kids.