PSU Beats Iowa

julescat

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That was an impressive win tonight. Must be great to not crap all over the home floor when a good team comes to town. Nice home wins over Indiana and Iowa in their last two.
 

NJCat83588

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That was an impressive win tonight. Must be great to not crap all over the home floor when a good team comes to town. Nice home wins over Indiana and Iowa in their last two.

PSU is tall and athletic. But tonight they also made shots. A few unreal shots. And Uthoff looks like he has hit a wall, just not the same player. Jok is good.

PSU is the only Big 10 school with lower attendance than NU. Looked like about 3,000 people in the stands tonight.
 
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PSU is tall and athletic.
That's why we can't ever seem to beat them. We always match up poorly against them and it gives us all sorts of trouble. And as we saw tonight, they're capable of playing at a high level.

So why don't they do better? It's one of the great mysteries to me.
 

NJCat83588

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That's why we can't ever seem to beat them. We always match up poorly against them and it gives us all sorts of trouble. And as we saw tonight, they're capable of playing at a high level.

So why don't they do better? It's one of the great mysteries to me.

I think it is because all other Big 10 teams (NU excepted) are also tall and athletic, and PSU usually doesn't shoot the ball very well. They also don't have the dominant guard like they seemed to have every season for the last 8 years or so.
 
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Well, better beat them this year because they probably have one of their best classes in history coming in next year. Iowa looks as if they're running out of gas. They have some good players, but not a lot of scoring depth.
 

NJCat83588

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I'm sure it's some reference to my discussion. But then again NJCat is all over the road on his idea that NU is nowhere on the NIT bubble. So now we're in the exaggeration phase.

I never said they were "nowhere near" the NIT bubble. I think they are in the conversation with 17 wins right now. But I just don't see them getting to 20 wins.
 

Sec_112

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I never said they were "nowhere near" the NIT bubble. I think they are in the conversation with 17 wins right now. But I just don't see them getting to 20 wins.

How should I interpret a response to a question about RPI, "NU isn't winning enough games to get to the NIT. Be realistic"? There wasn't even a discussion about the NIT before your comment. That sounded pretty absolute to me.

Pull over to the side. You're all over the road.
 

NJCat83588

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How should I interpret a response to a question about RPI, "NU isn't winning enough games to get to the NIT. Be realistic"? There wasn't even a discussion about the NIT before your comment. That sounded pretty absolute to me.

Pull over to the side. You're all over the road.

Yes, Officer! Thanks for keeping the Board safe!
 

Walker Fan

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Donovan Jack went 8/9 or 9/10 from the field. Had a career game. Other than Uthoff and Jok, Iowa had no other players have good game. Iowa usually tails off in last 5-10 games of the season. Remember NU beating Iowa in Big 10 tourney two seasons ago. They dropped to an 11 seed and lost in Dayton to Tennessee. NU did beat PSU last season at home. NU lost to PSU in Evanston due to awful shooting. That's the story in college basketball, if you don't shoot it well and your defense is not there you lose. See OU loss at Texas Tech, Penn State over Iowa and UNC's failure to get shots for Brice Johnsonq for last 13 minutes of the game.
 

chaneccooms

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Iowa usually tails off in last 5-10 games of the season.

This is incorrect. Yes, they had a horrific end to the conference slate two years ago, but the year before that they won 6 out of the last 8 and last season they won the last 6.
 
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Donovan Jack went 8/9 or 9/10 from the field. Had a career game. Other than Uthoff and Jok, Iowa had no other players have good game. Iowa usually tails off in last 5-10 games of the season. Remember NU beating Iowa in Big 10 tourney two seasons ago. They dropped to an 11 seed and lost in Dayton to Tennessee. NU did beat PSU last season at home. NU lost to PSU in Evanston due to awful shooting. That's the story in college basketball, if you don't shoot it well and your defense is not there you lose. See OU loss at Texas Tech, Penn State over Iowa and UNC's failure to get shots for Brice Johnsonq for last 13 minutes of the game.

So if you don't shoot well and don't play defense you lose, eh? I think that's the story in more than college basketball as offense and defense are the object of most team sports. Sorta like you'll lose if you don't hit or pitch in baseball? Whatever the reason for their loss against Penn State they have not played well against the Nittany Lions in recent years.
 

Catreporter

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Lots of parity and surprising results in college basketball this year. UNI beating #1 UNC started it (UNI is under .500 this year). Minnesota beat Maryland last night despite making only six field goals in the second half! Of course, it didn't hurt the Gophers that Maryland's star center Diamond Stone was serving a one game suspension. Credit the Cats for winning the games they were supposed to except for Penn State, not that it has been easy. Unfortunately, they haven't been able to get the big signature win yet
 

Walker Fan

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Pa Wildcat,
I am not sure you have been paying attention this year so I will give you some facts. Per Luke Winn's SI article in the Feb. 15-22 issue. 3 point shots this year in college basketball account for 35.2 percent of all Division I shot attempts which is the highest 3-pt. rate in the 29 plus years since the inception of the 3 pt. shot. In the NU-PSU game, NU shot 3-26 (11 percent) and PSU went 9-21 (42 percent) which was much better than in any other game that PSU played prior to that game. NU also lost the rebounding battle 38-28. That is why NU lost. In past years, NU lost the rebounding battle to PSU because the prior regime at NU did not recruit PFs and were forced to play SGs like Crawford and SF Shurna at the "4" spot which caused mismatches. Remember Shurna trying to defend 6'8", 270 lbs. PF Jared Sullinger of OSU? This year, Collins has recruited better rebounders, but our 3 point shooting has been down in conference games.
 

willycat

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Pa Wildcat,
I am not sure you have been paying attention this year so I will give you some facts. Per Luke Winn's SI article in the Feb. 15-22 issue. 3 point shots this year in college basketball account for 35.2 percent of all Division I shot attempts which is the highest 3-pt. rate in the 29 plus years since the inception of the 3 pt. shot. In the NU-PSU game, NU shot 3-26 (11 percent) and PSU went 9-21 (42 percent) which was much better than in any other game that PSU played prior to that game. NU also lost the rebounding battle 38-28. That is why NU lost. In past years, NU lost the rebounding battle to PSU because the prior regime at NU did not recruit PFs and were forced to play SGs like Crawford and SF Shurna at the "4" spot which caused mismatches. Remember Shurna trying to defend 6'8", 270 lbs. PF Jared Sullinger of OSU? This year, Collins has recruited better rebounders, but our 3 point shooting has been down in conference games.
The previous coaches philosophy also emphasized that as soon a shot was taken that everyone head back on defense. Yes. he didn't have "the horses" but just hoping to defend the easy early shot and then depending on a 1-3-1 zone seemed to put those teams at a disadvantage.