He was with his family.Was he alone or did he have a friend with him ?
While I’m ready for it too, they didn’t sell out their other two BJC duals this year: Oklahoma (8,003; didn’t open upper level) and Nebraska (13,225).When is Pat Kraft going to wise up and hold all the wrestling matches at BJC. Obviously the matches always sellout.
Both numbers seem higher than Rec Hall's capacity.While I’m ready for it too, they didn’t sell out their other two BJC duals this year: Oklahoma (8,003; didn’t open upper level) and Nebraska (13,225).
Yep. Agreed. I hope they move them all to BJC too. I could finally have my own season tickets. But I don’t know how many tickets they need to sell there to make it economically feasible. Remember that Athletics has to pay to rent BJC from the University for use.Both numbers seem higher than Rec Hall's capacity.
Do they have to pay for Rec hall??Yep. Agreed. I hope they move them all to BJC too. I could finally have my own season tickets. But I don’t know how many tickets they need to sell there to make it economically feasible. Remember that Athletics has to pay to rent BJC from the University for use.
I’ll need other posters more in the know than me to weigh in. My understanding is that BJC is unique in that Athletics doesn’t own it and has to rent its use from the University.Do they have to pay for Rec hall??
Move the basketball games to Rec Hall. I read all the time how fans love the atmosphere there.Do they have to pay for Rec hall??
My BJC seats are $30 more than the Rec seats. I am sure the concessions are way better at BJC along with the parking as far as generating revenue. I’m sure they are working to maximize the revenue.Yep. Agreed. I hope they move them all to BJC too. I could finally have my own season tickets. But I don’t know how many tickets they need to sell there to make it economically feasible. Remember that Athletics has to pay to rent BJC from the University for use.
I agree but looking back it appears wrestling has had that trend for a longtime. Maybe is a lack of elite talent so when a school/coach get on a run all the elite talent want to go there. I google the last 50 years and Iowa had 17 in the 80's 90's, Okie state has had 6. Between PSU, Iowa and Okie state they have won 35 of the last 50.I talked to guy a couple of weeks ago who truly is a fan of wrestling. His son was a dominating high school wrestler who had a decent college career. He goes to a lot of Lehigh matches. He said he thought that Penn State has really hurt the sport overall with it dominance. He truly doesn't have any issue with Penn State but said part of the enjoyment of watching any sporting event is the idea that there could be a team pulling off an upset and winning.
I know us Penn State fans are enjoying it , however I can see an outsider having those feelings.
I talked to guy a couple of weeks ago who truly is a fan of wrestling. His son was a dominating high school wrestler who had a decent college career. He goes to a lot of Lehigh matches. He said he thought that Penn State has really hurt the sport overall with it dominance. He truly doesn't have any issue with Penn State but said part of the enjoyment of watching any sporting event is the idea that there could be a team pulling off an upset and winning.
I know us Penn State fans are enjoying it , however I can see an outsider having those feelings.
I ma by no means a wrestling expert but had the same thought. Use you hands and peel out.Exciting finish for Rocco. But frustrated with him trying to get out from bottom and letting Fishback rack up riding time early in the match. Why the hell didn't he establish hand control and lower his hips and hip out? That is basic wrestling. He was standing up and not even touching his opponents hands. And then just letting Fishback push him to the edge of the mat. Great finish and outcome, but not sure it had to even get to that.
BJC exists only because (1) B10 required a new basketball arena to admit PSU; (2) Harrisburg coughed up taxpayer money.I’ll need other posters more in the know than me to weigh in. My understanding is that BJC is unique in that Athletics doesn’t own it and has to rent its use from the University.
All an intercompany transaction. Who cares?Yep. Agreed. I hope they move them all to BJC too. I could finally have my own season tickets. But I don’t know how many tickets they need to sell there to make it economically feasible. Remember that Athletics has to pay to rent BJC from the University for use.
It’s not actually. Penn State Athletics is completely self-supported. It receives no financial support from the University or taxpayers.All an intercompany transaction. Who cares?
How is this any different than when Iowa, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State had their runs of dominance? Was it bad for the sport then? From the pattern repeating itself over and over throughout NCAA wrestling history, it looks like it is inherent to the sport at the NCAA level.I talked to guy a couple of weeks ago who truly is a fan of wrestling. His son was a dominating high school wrestler who had a decent college career. He goes to a lot of Lehigh matches. He said he thought that Penn State has really hurt the sport overall with it dominance. He truly doesn't have any issue with Penn State but said part of the enjoyment of watching any sporting event is the idea that there could be a team pulling off an upset and winning.
I know us Penn State fans are enjoying it , however I can see an outsider having those feelings.
Like Askren said in his video, it appeared Welsh looking for a stall call against Fishback in that position. Also like Askren said, a stall call wasn't warranted because Welsh wasn't really trying to escape.Exciting finish for Rocco. But frustrated with him trying to get out from bottom and letting Fishback rack up riding time early in the match. Why the hell didn't he establish hand control and lower his hips and hip out? That is basic wrestling. He was standing up and not even touching his opponents hands. And then just letting Fishback push him to the edge of the mat. Great finish and outcome, but not sure it had to even get to that.
Maybe not 20 pounds difference, but Fishback IS a huge-looking 184 pounder. He fits well with the anOSU legacy in that regard.I was thinking the same thing; WTF was he doing with his escape strategy? I was watching on a delay and starting the second period I just figured Fishback was going to ride him out the rest of the match for the win. So, I fast forwarded and caught Rocco taking him down. So, I rewound to watch the rest of the match. Terrible match for him, but he found a way to win.
Was it just me, or did Fishback look HUGE - like he had 20lbs. on Rocco?
I thought that too sitting there. He sure is.Maybe not 20 pounds difference, but Fishback IS a huge-looking 184 pounder. He fits well with the anOSU legacy in that regard.
I just got off the phone with Bruce Parkhill and Jerry Dunn. They both want to know what the hell “PSU Basketball” is. What a joke. I say flush the men’s basketball program. It’s been circling the rim long enough.BJC exists only because (1) B10 required a new basketball arena to admit PSU; (2) Harrisburg coughed up taxpayer money.
Harrisburg would not pay anything toward a basketball-only arena that would be used roughly 25x per year. It had to be multi-purpose and useful year-round. The deal was: it's a concert venue with free facilities for Men's and Women's Basketball, plus Athletics offices. Everyone else needs to pay to use.
100% an intercompany transaction. Review the University consolidated financial statements.It’s not actually. Penn State Athletics is completely self-supported. It receives no financial support from the University or taxpayers.
They are very careful to keep athletic funding and academic funding completely separated is the point and therefore while it may not matter to you that athletics has to pay the University for wrestling to use the BJC, I believe it does to Pat Kraft and Cael Sanderson.100% an intercompany transaction. Review the University consolidated financial statements.
Has anyone heard a peep from Tan Tom? I saw him on screen yesterday, but haven’t heard a from him before or after match?
This is the most outspoken proponent of duals and before and after the biggest dual..silence?
Not how we would have handled it…
They do not. 10,000 for Oklahoma with covers over the seats upstairs, 13,000 for Nebraska, 16,006 for OSU. I forget the Wyoming number last year but it wasn't close to a sell out. 5 matches in last 2 seasons, OSU and Iowa were sellouts, the other 3 not.When is Pat Kraft going to wise up and hold all the wrestling matches at BJC. Obviously the matches always sellout.
Watch the sequence when Blaze comes back from getting his head wrapped and drops to his knees. Cael is right there in the background. Blaze looks right to the corner, maybe right at Cael, deep breath, then closes his eyes.I think cael saw it before that because he definitely pointed something out to blaze
No. They don't.When is Pat Kraft going to wise up and hold all the wrestling matches at BJC. Obviously the matches always sellout.
When you are essentially paying yourself, the question is what venue creates greater incremental NET revenue. It would seem the answer is clearly the BJC.They are very careful to keep athletic funding and academic funding completely separated is the point and therefore while it may not matter to you that athletics has to pay the University for wrestling to use the BJC, I believe it does to Pat Kraft and Cael Sanderson.
Blaze will go from 3rd seed to second seed. Not much difference.One thing I look at after a match is; how did it affect our guys' seed? With 6 guys at #1 they would most likely have to lose to lose their seed. The #1 seed gets a bye at B1Gs, no chance to get dinged up and a straight path to the quarterfinals.
Having the better seed doesn't always work out path-wise. For example, instead of my looking at Rocco's match as shaky, I look at it with the notion that his staying #1 should mean that Angelo and McEnelly will meet in the semis. Luke solidified himself at #1. Marcus improved his seed, Cole improved his seed. Not sure that scooter will be hurt too much, but he's going to have to beat a good guy early anyway.
Also, getting a better seed at Nationals should allow our #1 seeds to explode their bonus points in the early rounds.
As I said, having the better seed doesn't always work out, but most of the time I think it does.
I think it's safe to say the attendance and facility is better utilized by wrestling and fans than that other sport that happen at the same time Penn State wrestles and plays hockey....While I’m ready for it too, they didn’t sell out their other two BJC duals this year: Oklahoma (8,003; didn’t open upper level) and Nebraska (13,225).