Post yours here I will also add in a Top 5 Most Pressing Q's heading into the 2017 season.
Could be team related.....IHSA related etc.
Could be team related.....IHSA related etc.
What's going to happen to the Southwest Suburban? Does anyone (here) even care?
The folks at Stagg must care as evidenced by their unsuccessful bid to join the South Suburban Conference. The principal at Andrew must care by virtue of his proposal to the IHSA regarding scheduling and playoffs which did not make it to the membership ballot.What's going to happen to the Southwest Suburban? Does anyone (here) even care?
No. None of the people who were killing those guys will wear the stripes this upcoming season if they werent wearing them before.One topic that got a lot of people going was officiating. I am not only referring to the one infamous 7A semifinal game.
The current officiating pool is aging and some have/ are hitting the point where they have some physical limitations. After all of the outcry on this board will we see a large influx in new officials in 2017 who should be working varsity in 2020 or so
Remember officiating is one of the few jobs that you are expected to be perfect on the first day and get better from there
Yes we do care!!!The folks at Stagg must care as evidenced by their unsuccessful bid to join the South Suburban Conference. The principal at Andrew must care by virtue of his proposal to the IHSA regarding scheduling and playoffs which did not make it to the membership ballot.
Will the Hitters be able to reload at LB after losing a whole fleet? And can that new ad stop the Greek Freek in Week 1?
And one thing that no one cares about but wondering how Hetlet possibly stops GW from scoring 70 on Proviso East.
Along these same lines, who will be the runner-up in 4A after Rochester wins again?All.... Will the IHSA finally wake up and realize their latest discriminatory act against private schools (the success bylaw) needs to go away or be applied EQUALLY to private and public alike? Ratsy
How your Oline and Dline looking Capn?
Will the IHSA finally get its act together and allow some type of appeal process on egregious officiating mistakes (Fenwick example for one) Officials have a tough job and do a great job IMO. But they are human and can and have made officiating mistakes which have adversely impacted teams and individual players this past season.
I don't think they should be able to overturn the outcome of a game. That is far too risky and would put a lot of pressure on individuals through out the process. The first question would be who determines which game can be appealed and what type of "game changing calls" can be appealed? A lot to think about on this one.
Well thought out post Capn. Fenwick was the most glaring mistake made this year but Montini had a player ejected this year for fighting in a playoff game. Video replay showed he was not fighting but trying to get disentangled from a block. I am sure it was an honest mistake by the official calling it but the kid missed 3/4 of that game and the entire next playoff game which ended his high school football career. IMO there has to be some type of appeal process to at least review obvious misinterpretations of rules or player ejections from the next game.The right way to do it is think of it like baseball. There are certain plays that you can "protest." If you are in a tournament situation, you may have to put the game "on hold" for a period of time it takes to resolve through the escalation process. In baseball, I have seen that process take an hour while conference, league, district or even state level escalations get resolved. Not ideal to stop hot sweaty football players in the battle for an hour, but if a trip to the state title is on the line, maybe you wait.
If used during the game in question, Fenwick could have lodged a protest before the untimed play was allowed. Officials would have acknowledged the protest and if not resolved via a quick phone call, would have "played the remaining portion of the game under protest." Any final outcome would have been stated to be temporary "pending the outcome of the protest decision." The ultimate decision would have been that the interpretation of the rule was incorrect, play should have stopped and no new play should have been awarded and the game would have been awarded to the protesting school, Fenwick.
It works in baseball. And it does not include allowing protests for "judgement calls" rather only for "rule interpretations." Part of the resolution of protests include a "what is the appropriate resolution" so a small incorrect rule interpretation like misplaced line of scrimmage or something small would never result in a "Must Replay the Game" scenario. But it would allow for a major mistake at a crucial point that causes significant impact to be dealt with appropriately. In this case, the answer would have been very simple. There would be a situation where a protest may be more gray in nature, say:
My ref friends on the board would say that this situation would create a crappy situation that may not get solved correctly. But at least the governing body would be able to look at the entire situation and reasonably decide if damage was done. The magnitude of the mistake would be considered at least. If it was a 30 yard mistake in interpretation, the FG might be overruled. If it was a 5 yard mistake, the decision would likely be "no impact, deny protest."
- Team A takes safety with :10 on the clock to preserve 2 point lead
- Team A then kicks off out of bounds
- Refs incorrectly apply the ball placement in confusion over the Safety free-kick rule giving Team B incorrect field position
- Team A protests
- Team B kicks field goal on next play as time expires to win the game
- Upon conclusion that field position was incorrectly awarded, you have a judgment call as to whether to allow the field goal or not.
Maybe I am just trying to stir up a different discussion for a different thread, but had a few minutes between intense year end contract negotiations and thought I would throw out some fodder.