QB room is solid - what is your outlook

[blion72]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

 

[lemonears]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

Hoping for #4

 

[Alphabets]

I would hope it's all in Yurcich's hands and he picks who he wants to run his offense. He's only been there a year and should not really have an allegiance to any of those options. Best man wins.

 

[blion72]

Hoping for #4

pretty much other fans I talk to want 3 or 4. I think their is an assumption one or more of the other 3 would perform better given a chance

 

[marshall23]

SC will start and continue to do so barring injury or poor sustained performance. If Allar is as advertised the staff will be slot him for a certain # of series, starting slow and increasing as the season progresses.

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

5. DA and BP beat SC out straight up during the spring. SC to transfer portal....

 

[TheGlovStillRules]

5. DA and BP beat SC out straight up during the spring. SC to transfer portal....

to Slippery Rock Univ.

He'd look good in green and white!

 

[ManxomeLion]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

There's what we want to happen and what we think will happen. Franklin seems to value experience, he seems to lean towards an experienced QB who may be 80% healthy over an inexperienced QB who is 100% healthy.
He needs to develop experience with the backups otherwise this team will always be one injury away from major difficulties. That's not going to happen with just limited mop up duty. He'll need to commit to getting 1 or 2 backups meaningful playing time when the game may still be on the line.
I'm thinking #1 but hoping for something closer to #3 (I'm not hoping for Clifford to lose out per se, just that the team can get the backup QBs some experience.)

 

[blion72]

There's what we want to happen and what we think will happen. Franklin seems to value experience, he seems to lean towards an experienced QB who may be 80% healthy over an inexperienced QB who is 100% healthy.
He needs to develop experience with the backups otherwise this team will always be one injury away from major difficulties. That's not going to happen with just limited mop up duty. He'll need to commit to getting 1 or 2 backups meaningful playing time when the game may still be on the line.
I'm thinking #1 but hoping for something closer to #3 (I'm not hoping for Clifford to lose out per se, just that the team can get the backup QBs some experience.)

what do you think happens if one or more of these guys are better than SC in spring ball? is there even a competition that would drop SC down one or more rungs going into pre-season in August? If not, the only competition is among the 3, and SC guaranteed to start season no matter what.

any chance we would get one or more to transfer before 2022 season?

 

[LionInNC]

I think scenario #1 is the most likely. #4 is what I would prefer.

 

[BobPSU92]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

Franklin laughs at #4.

 

[Midnighter]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

1.

 

[ChiTownLionPSU]

Take yourself back to your mental state of mind when Christian Veilleux replaced Sean Clifford in the Rutgers game. I was expecting more frustration, but a strange thing happened -- CV moved the ball downfield, evaded the pass rush, made plays and put points on the board. How fun and unexpected was that? Was like Zack Mills coming in.

Hopefully Sean Clifford can put it all together, stay healthy and have a big year.

Would like to see Drew Allar live up to the hype and force his way in, but also excited about Christian Veilleux. Seems that the real QB battle will be for the backup spot.

Also glad to have a motivated sleeper like Beau Pribula waiting in the wings.

 

[91Joe95]

Qb has not been the problem for the offense.

 

[Pocono Lion]

Take yourself back to your mental state of mind when Christian Veilleux replaced Sean Clifford in the Rutgers game. We were down 14 and I was expecting more frustration, but a strange thing happened -- CV moved the ball downfield, evaded the pass rush, made plays and put points on the board. How fun and unexpected was that? Was like Zack Mills coming in.

Hopefully Sean Clifford can put it all together, stay healthy and have a big year.

Would like to see Drew Allar live up to the hype and force his way in, but also excited about Christian Veilleux. Seems that the real QB battle will be for the backup spot.

Also glad to have a motivated sleeper like Beau Pribula waiting in the wings.

Umm, we weren’t down 14, it was 0-0. In fact, Rutgers was shut it in that game

 

[BobPSU92]

The QB room is crowded, but that will be addressed through Franklin’s facility upgrades.

 

[lemonears]

pretty much other fans I talk to want 3 or 4. I think their is an assumption one or more of the other 3 would perform better given a chance

It's really a recognition that this year is a rebuilding year and if Clifford starts we will likely have another 7 - 5 type year. Based on the latest recruiting classes there is hope that in 2023 and beyond we could be good. We ought to provide experience to QBs like Allar during the rebuilding season. Playing Clifford does nothing to help us in the future. It would be better for us to play Allar in 2022 and finish 5 - 7 than playing Clifford and finishing 7 - 5.

 

[marshall23]

Clifford was not offered a scholarship to come back for year 6 to be a clip board holder. LOL
If you don't think he's going to start the year (based on merit) and we will see Allar being blended in,,,,you are living in a fantasy world.

 

[psu31trap]

The sky is the limit for Clifford. I say #1

 

[BobPSU92]

I will always support guys who stick with the Blue and White, Clifford being one. However, I am still having a hard time getting past that horrible overthrow pick in the end zone in the bowl game. We were losing in the 2nd half but had made our way into the red zone. We obviously needed the TD there. Instead, Clifford gave the ball away. Veteran QB with that throw. That simply can’t happen.

 

[PSUAXE70]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

Remember the beginning of this past season when our running back room was so great? Among the set in the country we heard?

 

[WDLion]

Remember the beginning of this past season when our running back room was so great? Among the set in the country we heard?

I don't remember anyone saying that.

 

[BW Lion]

In James we distrust.

 

[BobPSU92]

I don't remember anyone saying that.

The btn guys said before last season that PSU had the best running back group in the b1g. That’s all I remember.

 

[WDLion]

The btn guys said before last season that PSU had the best running back group in the b1g. That’s all I remember.

Really. The running game sucked in the 2020 season. I could see them saying that prior to the 20 season when Journey Brown was expected to play.

 

[Tom_PSU]

As long as there is a free for all posing as a Transfer Portal no position group is ever solid. Plus add in the unavoidable injury or two, and future projections become worthless.

 

[Manofsteel200]

1.
His mechanics are horrible and have been his entire career. I don’t see that changing in the off season.
Locks in on receivers and does step into his throws.

 

[blion72]

Clifford was not offered a scholarship to come back for year 6 to be a clip board holder. LOL
If you don't think he's going to start the year (based on merit) and we will see Allar being blended in,,,,you are living in a fantasy world.

The btn guys said before last season that PSU had the best running back group in the b1g. That’s all I remember.

 

[marshall23]

The btn guys said before last season that PSU had the best running back group in the b1g. That’s all I remember.

I thought sportswriters and ratings service gurus knew almost as much football as the BWCAC?

 

[blion72]

i heard that. they were comparing our room vs BIG. that assumed Cain at 100%, 4* Holmes, 4* Ford, a highly productive transfer from Baylor and Lee 2020 leading rusher. as a group maybe better than most if BIG, but no one HR back like several had. Cain was never 100%, Holmes played a couple games, Ford was ok, Baylor transfer missed several games with injuries and Lee was leading runner again. actual was not the BTN forecast, but 3 of the RBs had injuries, etc impact them.

OUR QB room will be highly ranked this year. SC, CV, BP are 4* and DA is 5*. SC is coming in as possible 4 yr starter. However, SC will not likely be All BIG pre season. some mag may show DA as HM all BIG. we will have maybe more highly ranked QBs than any BIG team. may not translate to anything.

an indicator of competition will be spring. will SC watch and let 3 go head to head, or will he have to fight? if he is watching, then probably #1.

 

[kgilbert78]

Well, before the transfer portal, I'd have had a different view. Now? Who knows??

 

[bbrown]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

On paper it looks pretty good, certainly much, much better than last years QB room.
I'm not convinced or won't be surprised if the current QB room looks a little different (size wise) after spring.

 

[lions1995]

I am actually go with #5, Clifford starts the season, but get hurt and unlike against Iowa, the backup comes in and plays well while Clifford is out several games, and the team decides to go with the future now leaving Clifford as a cheerleader. At the end of the season Clifford graduates and one QB enters the portal again leaving us thin at QB.

 

[Waaaaaaaany]

I'd like #4 but with as loyal as JF is, I see Clifford playing every snap unless we are up 40+ with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't leave the field unless he is less than 30% of normal health.

 

[blion72]

I'd like #4 but with as loyal as JF is, I see Clifford playing every snap unless we are up 40+ with 3 minutes to go. He doesn't leave the field unless he is less than 30% of normal health.

If you heard Phil and Jed today, they mentioned this would be the talk of spring ball. Jed seems to see a model along the lines of #3 where DA shares time and takes over. Phil mentioned CV needs to have a shot and you do not want him in portal after spring cause he sees no opportunity.

what is the chance that all 4 of these QBs complete their entire CFB career at Penn State? on the other hand, what is the chance that NONE of them finish their CFB career at Penn State? I hope we can keep the 3 younger QBs around long enough to sort things out and make a good decision re starter/roles.

 

[NittanyBuff]

i think most fans like our QB room

SC is a solid experienced QB, who excels when healthy. he could be a good player coach.
CV showed he can perform if needed. he might be more accurate than Sean.
DA shows elite potential including in AA week/game
BP a potential star maybe not DA level

which scenario do you think plays out and is this what you think is best for the team short and long run?

1. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. not taken out unless injured or blowout. Performance equal or worse than past.
2. SC holds QB starter role and plays most of the time. Performance far better than past and in Heisman talk. DRAFTED in NFL early
3. SC INITIALLY starts but gradually loses spot to another QB. by end of season seeing minor playing role. becomes mentor coach as he gives up reins
4. SC loses starter role in pre-season. falls down depth chart and becomes clipboard mentor

I would assume 1, fingers crossed for 2, but don't see him as an NFL QB. Just hope the youngsters get some meaningful snaps.

 

[blion72]

I would assume 1, fingers crossed for 2, but don't see him as an NFL QB. Just hope the youngsters get some meaningful snaps.

I think you hit why Jed made such a point. He kept saying "they won't be able to keep DA off the field". Most of this forum appear to think they coaches will absolutely not play DA or any other player over SC unless SC cannot physically go. If SC winds up resembling scenario 2, all are on board, but in #1 going to be an ugly situation. If we have #1 and one or more of the 3 other guys are better, what do you see happening? Do all 3 just say oh well, we will compete for the job in 2023, and watch in 2022?

 

[NittanyBuff]

I think you hit why Jed made such a point. He kept saying "they won't be able to keep DA off the field". Most of this forum appear to think they coaches will absolutely not play DA or any other player over SC unless SC cannot physically go. If SC winds up resembling scenario 2, all are on board, but in #1 going to be an ugly situation. If we have #1 and one or more of the 3 other guys are better, what do you see happening? Do all 3 just say oh well, we will compete for the job in 2023, and watch in 2022?

I don't see SC turning into Pickett in his final yr, but no discounting experience, kid has seen it all, and when healthy an above avg QB imho. As for the other 3, you know someone is hitting the portal sooner than later, I just hope the heir apparent gets some significant, meaningful snaps next this season.

 

[Waaaaaaaany]

Maybe JF will surprise us all and go with rotating QB's. And to take it a bit further, maybe "groups" or "lines" like hockey. Packages of a QB/WR's/RB. Will just substitute a whole "line" at different drives of the game, sometimes even mid drive. lol

But, back to the current QB's....In todays portal, I only see one of the current QB's who aren't Clifford ending their college football career at PSU

 

[marshall23]

As long as there is a free for all posing as a Transfer Portal no position group is ever solid. Plus add in the unavoidable injury or two, and future projections become worthless.

The truth....and think about who is making projections and what do they really know.