Question : Would uofk hire Payne if caliperi retired

[KerryRhodes]

At the end of this season.

Of course not.

Why should UofL.....

Traitor payne had his chance to coach here. He turned that opportunity down.

I reiterate. Id rather rehire Mack and have the team have 20 straight losing seasons than Payne coach one game at the University of Louisville.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

I don't really have a dog in the fight. Like, I can't predict the future so I'm not too worked up about it.

I'm not mad at Kenny once a Card always a Card for me. That dude had a sweet J and he wore the jersey proudly.

I'm just glad to see you back posting man.

 

[Knucklehank1]

At the end of this season.

Of course not.

Why should UofL.....

Traitor payne had his chance to coach here. He turned that opportunity down.

I reiterate. Id rather rehire Mack and have the team have 20 straight losing seasons than Payne coach one game at the University of Louisville.

FWIW…Mike Pratt said that if Cal were to leave then Payne would be first call. Who knows…

 

[shadow force]

Paynes lack of HC experience is the main point against him for me. No one knows how good or bad his Xs and Os are. We don't even know what style of offense and defense he would play.

Getting talent is well and good but without the coaching ability behind it you still flounder. That said, if he ends up being the guy I'll support him like every other UofL coach.

 

[LouCards13]

At the end of this season.

Of course not.

Why should UofL.....

Traitor payne had his chance to coach here. He turned that opportunity down.

I reiterate. Id rather rehire Mack and have the team have 20 straight losing seasons than Payne coach one game at the University of Louisville.

That’s a bit extreme

 

[ShortCreek]

FWIW…Mike Pratt said that if Cal were to leave then Payne would be first call. Who knows…

Pratt is full of crap. He does not have UofL’s best interest at heart by any means. He and Issel crack jokes on UofL any time they get the opportunity. UK would never hire Payne with no head coaching experience. Their last hire w/o D-I head coaching experience? Joe B. Hall over 50 yrs ago.

 

[CardsFirst]

At the end of this season.

Of course not.

Why should UofL.....

Traitor payne had his chance to coach here. He turned that opportunity down.

I reiterate. Id rather rehire Mack and have the team have 20 straight losing seasons than Payne coach one game at the University of Louisville.

Hold on just one minute. What do you mean he had his chance to coach here? Didn’t realize that. Not for hiring Payne either.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Hold on just one minute. What do you mean he had his chance to coach here? Didn’t realize that. Not for hiring Payne either.

When he left Oregon, he was offered an assistant job here by pitino. Instead the UofL graduate inked with SuCkS.

 

[Thecycle27]

I would think we all learned by now hiring a coach comes with no guarantees. Mack had all the coaching experience needed to be successful. It didn’t work. Strong had no head coaching experience worked out great here. Football is a much more difficult sport to lead. It is all about fit.

I don’t get why people take such hard stances for or against coaches. The reality is none of us really know how it pan out.

I am not sure the message boards are any indication of the overall fanbase but Payne won’t be a popular hire on any of these sites. As a matter of fact people would hate the hire which I don’t understand.

Pearl fits he can handle the entire job. He is the only coach that is the closest to a sure thing. All rest are calculated gambles. I am not going to be upset if they don’t get Pearl or say they failed because they went a different direction.

 

[Morgantown Card]

I reiterate. Id rather rehire Mack and have the team have 20 straight losing seasons than Payne coach one game at the University of Louisville.

Man, that's brutal. We all have opinions on who could succeed or not but yikes. My opinion is we all can root for "our guy" but once the hire is made and the boots are on the ground we root for that guy.

 

[nccardfan]

Man, that's brutal. We all have opinions on who could succeed or not but yikes. My opinion is we all can root for "our guy" but once the hire is made and the boots are on the ground we root for that guy.

…or we put our allegiance somewhere else.

 

[MikesMarbles]

I think UK learned its lesson about hiring inexperienced guys with Gillispie. They wasted a few years when they could have just had Calipari then.

There's no telling who will be available when Calipari steps down but I think they will go for someone that is proven. They can afford to throw a king's ransom at them that will be hard to turn down.

 

[CardX]

I like to think I’m pretty knowledgeable about stuff, but I didn’t know Payne was offered an assistant gig here, nor do I know who Mike Pratt is.

 

[CardsFirst]

When he left Oregon, he was offered an assistant job here by pitino. Instead the UofL graduate inked with SuCkS.

Did not realize that, yeah he’s certainly not a Louisville guy now. Let him wait for the SuCk opening. I’m sure Eaves can get him the HC job there after Calimari departs.
Eaves and Beard can go pound sand. That little fact seems to get left out of their argument about not hiring former players.

 

[Thecycle27]

I think UK learned its lesson about hiring inexperienced guys with Gillispie. They wasted a few years when they could have just had Calipari then.

There's no telling who will be available when Calipari steps down but I think they will go for someone that is proven. They can afford to throw a king's ransom at them that will be hard to turn down.

There was a lot wrong with Gillespie off the court. UK swallowed him whole. Similar to Louisville and Mack.

Louisville is a monster. Not sure their is a personality that kind handle it except Pearl. It will take that kind of personality and ego to handle this job.

 

[KozmasAgain]

You know I agree with you on that Cycle it takes a big personality and some arrogance to be a successful coach at the bigger schools with tradition. When you look at all the football and basketball schools with tradition had those type coaches.

 

[Big_Tasty_Muffin]

I don't see why everyone thinks KP will be an instant success on the recruiting trail. Kyle Tucker of The Athletic wrote a great piece on Payne’s departure at UK last year and what it meant for Kentucky basketball moving forward. Tucker also shared on social media that some of Kentucky’s most significant wins on the recruiting trail in recent years didn’t come from Payne...expressing confidence in assistants Tony Barbee and Joel Justus. Tucker noted in his story that Payne had taken a step back in recruiting in recent years, with Barbee and Justus having more activity on that front for Calipari. Barbee and Justus have been staples on the UK bench since the 2015-16 season, and both are responsible for big names playing at Kentucky.

Below is a list of players both assistant coaches were the lead recruiter for.

Justus: BJ Boston, Devin Askew, Immanuel Quickley, Keldon Johnson, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, and Bam Adebayo.

Barbee: Terrence Clarke, Tyrese Maxey, Keion Brooks, and Nick Richards.

Payne was one of the top assistants in college basketball and very important in developing Kentucky’s big men. However UK's recruiting has not taken a significant blow since he left as they where the #2 overall ranked team last year and have 2 burger boys already signed up for next season.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think KP would be terrible when it comes to recruiting. However I think it's fair to question how good he would be on his own.

 

[OldhamCard335]

I might have missed it, but over the last few years there have been numerous coaching openings at schools large and small. I just don’t recall hearing Kenny Payne’s name being circulated as a possibility for any HC positions other than DePaul. Second point; if anyone feels that KP is qualified to be our next HC because of his time sitting next to coach cow then they also need to explain why that’s a good thing when it’s widely recognized (on this board anyway) that cow is a horrible X and O’s coach.

 

[KA4Prez_rivals78700]

Kenny Payne wouldn't be in the top 5 candidates.

 

[LouCards13]

There was a lot wrong with Gillespie off the court. UK swallowed him whole. Similar to Louisville and Mack.

Louisville is a monster. Not sure their is a personality that kind handle it except Pearl. It will take that kind of personality and ego to handle this job

Gillespie was a drunk! ‍

 

[Morgantown Card]

Honest answer - no idea. They might. I think they'd be in the same situation that Louisville (and Duke, and UNC, and Indiana) - who do you hire? There's no lights-out, sure fire thing out there waiting. There's no Pitino, no Calipari, no Roy Williams waiting to come home. UK is going to find out replacing Cal is tougher than they expect, and t hey just might wish they could hire Kenny Payne.