Has there ever been a team that did not win their regular season conference or post season conference tournament that got 1 seed besides Duke?????
QUESTION
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The defense is always that they have a great list of big wins, but they never talk about getting blown out at home by a team that's not even in the field. And another loss to an unranked team with 13 losses. If you are gonna talk about their big wins, you gotta talk about their bad losses too.
Name ONE, ONE, ONE, ONE team that has ever received a #1 seed that did not win the regular season conference or post season tournament in their conference. Good luck.
Yes....2008, Louisville, Pitt and UCONN
ALL got 1 seeds, all from the big east.
3 teams from the big east got 1 seeds. Louisville was the #1 overall 1 seed
Thanks for the info. I guess we have nothing to fear from the #1 seeds that did not win the regular season title or conference tournament because they were undeserving of that seeding to begin with.
None of the #1 seeds listed above have ever won the NCAA title.
Pretty obvious they didn't deserve the #1 seed. Duke will lose again to Mercer if given a one seed.
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This post was edited on 3/14 7:52 PM by sambowieshin
None of the #1 seeds listed above have ever won the NCAA title.
Pretty obvious they didn't deserve the #1 seed. Duke will lose again to Mercer if given a one seed.
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This post was edited on 3/14 7:52 PM by sambowieshin
Notice how two of the teams (UCONN and PITT) were Big Least teams. The ACC is the new Big Least. Over rated love children of the east coast media.
so if you don't win your conference or the conference tournament you don't deserve a 1 seed? Why? Gonzaga won both of theirs this year but does that mean they should be a 1 seed?
Also, for every team that lost both and didn't win the tournament there are 50 that did win their conference, received a 1 seed, and lost prior to the FF, does that mean they didn't deserve a 1 seed too?
Also, for every team that lost both and didn't win the tournament there are 50 that did win their conference, received a 1 seed, and lost prior to the FF, does that mean they didn't deserve a 1 seed too?
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2 of those teams (UConn and Texas) made the Final Four. I would say they both deserved their #1 seed.
Captain Obvious says they got to the Final Four BECAUSE they go the #1 seed. Not because they deserved it.
This post was edited on 3/14 8:29 PM by sambowieshin
So only 2 teams in the history of the NCAA championship were given a number one seed and did not win the regular season conference title or the conference tournament then made the Final Four....
Neither made it to the title game.
I think we can strike Duke off our "to do" list.
Neither made it to the title game.
I think we can strike Duke off our "to do" list.
They got to the Final Four because they beat 4 teams in the tournament, which means they deserved to be in the Final Four. I don;t think they got there BECAUSE they were rewarded with a #1 seed. There are a lot of #1 seeds that don't get the the Final Four.
Those are 3 teams over the past 12 years. I didn't look further back than that, so there might be more teams.
I am indifferent on Duke getting a #1 seed, if they do.
I agree. Who gives a rip, unless it pushes Wisconsin or Virginia into UK's region? If Duke gets seeded 3rd overall, that means they're out of UK's hair until the title game. If they make it that far to face UK, bring it on.
You can make legit arguments for and against Villanova (yeah, even them), Duke, Virginia, Wisconsin, and Arizona for 1 seeds. One of the huge problems is that almost none of them played each other, but when they did, Duke is the one who came away with 2 road wins. How do you weigh that in comparison to Duke's shortcomings? I honestly have no idea, and can't pretend that there's a right answer.
You're being intentionally obtuse. There are exactly four of these seeds available. There are 30+ conferences with automatic bids, so no, winning your regular season and conference tournament does not on its own mean you should be a number 1 seed. However, if you can't manage to win your conference regular season OR your conference tournament I consider it a fairly good sign there are probably 4 teams in the entire country that are better/more deserving of a 1 seed than you. Hell, at that point there may be 2 of them more deserving in your own conference.
There are, as always, exceptions to this rule. But it's a good starting point.
Let's remove it from basketball and equate it to academics:
1. I did not achieve the highest ACT/SAT score in my high school's graduating class.
2. I did not achieve the highest GPA in my high school's graduating class.
3. I still assert I am one of the 4 smartest people in the entire country's graduating class.
It's theoretically possible but you should probably laugh at me for even suggesting it.
This post was edited on 3/15 2:23 AM by Seth C