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Husker4lyfe15

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No... Can’t snap the ball, our line gets manhandled more often than not, Martinez looks lost, and Erik Chinander’s defensive scheme is softer than charmin. I could go on but it is what it is with husker football.. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ho hum another blow out loss and year 15 of the rebuild looks promising
 

F5Tornado

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Is this acceptable? I wish someone would tell us.

It should have been more competitive, but you could also sense a one sided game before it started. Turnovers and penalties are something this team just can't seem to shake, and Ohio State certainly doesn't need the help.

Also, the defense has been given many dire situations by the offense, but they can't stop teams from scoring after turnovers, just like last week, they just let the opposition go right down the field and score. It would be nice if they could keep them out of the end zone half the time.

I think by the end of the 2022 season we'll have a good gauge on whether
Frost is the man for the job, if he's in the B1G title game in 2021 or 2022 (and that will be hard to get there) then I'd say he's making progress. If by year five he's not there and still middling around with no championship game in sight, then it would be hard to say he's going to get it done.

By 2022's end, he better be like Mayor Goldie Wilson with progress as his middle name!
 

Iroh

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The only real question is, do you think Frost thinks it is acceptable? Not 100% sure, but I think Frost hates losing more than anyone in Husker nation...
 

Iroh

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It should have been more competitive, but you could also sense a one sided game before it started. Turnovers and penalties are something this team just can't seem to shake, and Ohio State certainly doesn't need the help.

Also, the defense has been given many dire situations by the offense, but they can't stop teams from scoring after turnovers, just like last week, they just let the opposition go right down the field and score. It would be nice if they could keep them out of the end zone half the time.

I think by the end of the 2022 season we'll have a good gauge on whether
Frost is the man for the job, if he's in the B1G title game in 2021 or 2022 (and that will be hard to get there) then I'd say he's making progress. If by year five he's not there and still middling around with no championship game in sight, then it would be hard to say he's going to get it done.

By 2022's end, he better be like Mayor Goldie Wilson with progress as his middle name!
I would think if Frost can’t get it done, no one ever will...
 

RedSea_rivals91325

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OSU is really good this year. Even at that, we should have played them closer that this. The turnovers were a killer, but we just got outplayed at every position too. Weren't ready. But 3-2 is better than 0-5, so I guess there is progress.
 

rrthusker

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It is not acceptable and it was not unexpected unless you live on kool aid.
 

WTFMatt

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It should have been more competitive, but you could also sense a one sided game before it started. Turnovers and penalties are something this team just can't seem to shake, and Ohio State certainly doesn't need the help.

Also, the defense has been given many dire situations by the offense, but they can't stop teams from scoring after turnovers, just like last week, they just let the opposition go right down the field and score. It would be nice if they could keep them out of the end zone half the time.

I think by the end of the 2022 season we'll have a good gauge on whether
Frost is the man for the job, if he's in the B1G title game in 2021 or 2022 (and that will be hard to get there) then I'd say he's making progress. If by year five he's not there and still middling around with no championship game in sight, then it would be hard to say he's going to get it done.

By 2022's end, he better be like Mayor Goldie Wilson with progress as his middle name!

What? We should have just kept Pelini if that's the case. I don't care how good our competition around us is, if we can't win a Big Ten West title by 2021 then we need to start looking for another coach.
 

F5Tornado

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I would think if Frost can’t get it done, no one ever will...

I've posted these thoughts before and I'll repeat them again, I believe Nebraska football now is where Nebraska football should have always been, a decent program that wins about 7 to 9 games a year but not much more than that.

You wonder why programs such as Ucla, Illinois, Texas A&M (Aggies are good, but never get close to the big prize) Houston, Arizona or Arizona State, and others never really make much noise but Nebraska for over 4 decades did.

Truth be told, and we all know it, Nebraska had two stratosphere coaches in Devaney and Osborne, and they were one of those phenomenon that happen in a rare kind of manner, and until those kinds of coaches show up in Lincoln again, Nebraska will be just another program scratching for 7, 8, 9 wins a year.

Nebraska wasn't really anything special, but for a few years in the 1920's before Devaney arrived, and for a few years under Solich in 1999-2001 after Osborne left, so the natural order of college football has placed Nebraska back into the nothing special category, a place that seems to be its destiny for the foreseeable future.

I don't know if Frost can become like those two, he's going to have to make some tough decisions about his staff, maybe not this year, but if next year follows a similar pattern, he will have to do something or risk losing his job down the line.
 

F5Tornado

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What? We should have just kept Pelini if that's the case. I don't care how good our competition around us is, if we can't win a Big Ten West title by 2021 then we need to start looking for another coach.

Nebraska might get there by then, but it will be one hard road travel, and by the end of 2022, the fifth of his tenure, it will give us a real good indicator of his being around or gone. I think there's enough talent to get to the B1G by 2021, can this coaching staff deliver them there?
 

WTFMatt

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Nebraska might get there by then, but it will be one hard road travel, and by the end of 2022, the fifth of his tenure, it will give us a real good indicator of his being around or gone. I think there's enough talent to get to the B1G by 2021, can this coaching staff deliver them there?

You are saying exactly what has been said for every coaching staff since Solich. This is why we have Frost. He was given a record salary at NU for a reason. I don't think winning a Big Ten West title by year 5 was the goal.
 

vs540husker

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F5Tornado

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The only real question is, do you think Frost thinks it is acceptable? Not 100% sure, but I think Frost hates losing more than anyone in Husker nation...

The kind of football Frost was around as a player would work just as effectively today as it did back then. When Frost truly decides on physicality over finesse (so many teams run what Nebraska does) and gravitates towards play like Ohio State, Wisconsin, then I believe we'll see better football.

Now, I doubt things will move towards the kind of football I mentioned, so the next best thing is to match talent and coaching with talent and coaching, a good start will be finding a way to beat Northwestern.
 
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F5Tornado

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You are saying exactly what has been said for every coaching staff since Solich. This is why we have Frost. He was given a record salary at NU for a reason. I don't think winning a Big Ten West title by year 5 was the goal.
I'm sure the goal was to win it sooner, but the facts show that talent and coaching wise, Nebraska is just a middle of the pack B1G team, and I don't see that changing for a few more years, and that sucks to say it.

Recruiting seems to have been good for 2018 and 19, and so far for 2020 there are four 4 star commits, but Frost & Co have a lot of work to do. Question is, will they get it done and get to the title game in 2021? We'll have to wait and see, but I don't believe it will happen next year and 2021 will be another dog fight just to get there.
 

SkerInCo

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The only real question is, do you think Frost thinks it is acceptable? Not 100% sure, but I think Frost hates losing more than anyone in Husker nation...
Not the vibe I got from him in the presser.
 

Dadmaster

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I think Frost is living by the rule he has for the players....

This game show a total lack of preparation.....no fire....no sharpness....and Adrian should have been pulled and benched.
 
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Ground and pound football is the only recipe that will work for this program. Get away from the Oregon football model and get back to your roots. If Frost is not smart enough to figure this out then get someone who does.
 

yort2000

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The kind of football Frost was around as a player would work just as effectively today as it did back then. When Frost truly decides on physicality over finesse (so many teams run what Nebraska does) and gravitates towards play like Ohio State, Wisconsin, then I believe we'll see better football.

Now, I doubt things will move towards the kind of football I mentioned, so the next best thing is to match talent and coaching with talent and coaching, a good start will be finding a way to beat Northwestern.

Ground and pound football is the only recipe that will work for this program. Get away from the Oregon football model and get back to your roots. If Frost is not smart enough to figure this out then get someone who does.

Michigan hasn't been able to make the "physical" style work and they are able to recruit better talent than Nebraska every year. How do you think Nebraska is going to make it work when Michigan can't?
 

bshirt73

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I've posted these thoughts before and I'll repeat them again, I believe Nebraska football now is where Nebraska football should have always been, a decent program that wins about 7 to 9 games a year but not much more than that.

You wonder why programs such as Ucla, Illinois, Texas A&M (Aggies are good, but never get close to the big prize) Houston, Arizona or Arizona State, and others never really make much noise but Nebraska for over 4 decades did.

Truth be told, and we all know it, Nebraska had two stratosphere coaches in Devaney and Osborne, and they were one of those phenomenon that happen in a rare kind of manner, and until those kinds of coaches show up in Lincoln again, Nebraska will be just another program scratching for 7, 8, 9 wins a year.

Nebraska wasn't really anything special, but for a few years in the 1920's before Devaney arrived, and for a few years under Solich in 1999-2001 after Osborne left, so the natural order of college football has placed Nebraska back into the nothing special category, a place that seems to be its destiny for the foreseeable future.

I don't know if Frost can become like those two, he's going to have to make some tough decisions about his staff, maybe not this year, but if next year follows a similar pattern, he will have to do something or risk losing his job down the line.

Yes, that's true enough that we were outrageously lucky to have two ultra-awesome back-to-back HCs in Devaney & TO. Five NCs and excellence everywhere. Those superb coaches don't grow on trees.

Never-the-less, I bet HCSF "gets it"......it just very well will take longer than I want. I'm still convinced the OLine is and should be our #1 priority. The DLine our #2 priority. We can have the country's best skill positions and will win some games but without vicious big uglies we'll never get close to being great again.

Sadly, who knows how long it will take HCSF to get that done? I haven't a clue.
 

F5Tornado

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Michigan hasn't been able to make the "physical" style work and they are able to recruit better talent than Nebraska every year. How do you think Nebraska is going to make it work when Michigan can't?
Michigan lacks just about every year what Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, OU and a few other teams have, an ultra dynamic quarterback. If they had what those teams have year in and out, they'd be doing pretty well. Just my opinion, but since Jim's been there, they haven't had anyone close to what the teams mention have at that position.
 

Cidsports

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Both Michigan and Nebraska were poor favorites for 2019.
The games Nebraska needs to begin taking care of business in begins against Northwestern, Purdue and Indiana.

Ohio State is the perennial Big Ten #1. The Media jumping Michigan ahead of them with a first-time OC was a huge joke.

They couldn't even win first test.

A 3-2 start is better than 2-3. The four turnovers at Illinois were a sign of concern.

3 turnovers against Ohio State lead to the 48-7 sandblasting for the Huskers.
 

Baxter48_rivals204143

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Usually teams recover from a blow out faster than losing a really close game, one positive Nebraska didn’t quit, if Riley was the coach they’d have gave up start of the second quarter. Right now Nebraska needs to concentrate on winning the games that they have the same talent. What if we would have won last night then tank the next 4. That’s how bill snyder build kst win the games your supposed to the work on upsetting the big boys. It takes baby steps but that’s the way to build this program. To many people want instant results and to many of us read and believe the puff up from the local media.
 

Cidsports

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Usually teams recover from a blow out faster than losing a really close game, one positive Nebraska didn’t quit, if Riley was the coach they’d have gave up start of the second quarter. Right now Nebraska needs to concentrate on winning the games that they have the same talent. What if we would have won last night then tank the next 4. That’s how bill snyder build kst win the games your supposed to the work on upsetting the big boys. It takes baby steps but that’s the way to build this program. To many people want instant results and to many of us read and believe the puff up from the local media.
Nebraska is 1-0 in the West. Ultimately, that is the most important stat. 1-1 in the Big Ten. Control their own future.
 

oldjar07

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I would think if Frost can’t get it done, no one ever will...
That's BS and the fanbase needs to stop thinking this way. If Frost can't get it done here, we'll find someone who will. Frost is lucky to be here and have the support he does.

I'm very disappointed in how these first 2 years have gone so far. That being said, I still think Frost is our best long term option to get things turned around. He's a very smart guy and I think he can be a great coach. He needs to learn a lot and make some tough decisions in order for that to happen though.
 

Redscarlet

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That's BS and the fanbase needs to stop thinking this way. If Frost can't get it done here, we'll find someone who will. Frost is lucky to be here and have the support he does.

I'm very disappointed in how these first 2 years have gone so far. That being said, I still think Frost is our best long term option to get things turned around. He's a very smart guy and I think he can be a great coach. He needs to learn a lot and make some tough decisions in order for that to happen though.

Yea this is his 4th year with 2 different teams... I’m not saying there isn’t someone else because only 3 Head Coaches at Nebraska made it longer than 7 years and one of them was fired for good reason...

If in year 7 he still hasn’t won a conference title but has respectful winning seasons I hope people won’t run him out of town unless he wants to leave..
 

Goldenhusker-402

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Im assuming you are insinuating that Frost or Moos should tell the media that this is unacceptable. What would that do or change? I mean do you really think Frost thinks this is okay? I'm just as baffled and frustrated as the rest of us but lets be realistic here.