What happened to all those posters that said Riley wouldn't be able to recruit? I mean, come on guys, look at his record at Oregon State. No way he will be successful recruiting here. LMAO. Our staff is dominating the recruiting trail and the best is yet to come.
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Same guys who said he was here to collect a check and that he is too old. Just give it time, they'll pop back up when the team has its first bad game.
My question would be about Riley and his staff time management in games and discipline when it comes to penalty yards which most years they were one of the worst penalized teams in the nation during his era at Oregon St.
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Derpity derp derp derp... I hope the Huskers lose. That's what goes through their heads.
I mean seriously, like who the heck is this Trent Bray and Keith Williams anyways. I thought SE had $$. Ok I'm done.
Ignorance is bliss amigo. Guys on here say lots of things and most of it is either BS or wrapped in fantasy.
This board spends way to much time trying to lay people out for past opinions. So what if some felt different about the direction of things, to each his own. Take the example from our coaches and fix our group from within.
Is asking where the most vocal anti-Riley/Eichorst posters are really laying them out? They were so vocal even 6 months ago. Asking where they are now doesn't seem to be that bad of a question.
If they don't want to be "laid out," then don't be so inflammatory towards the coaches before even a year has passed.
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I am as excited about this staff's recruiting efforts as probably anyone. I appreciate the openness to let us see what is going on, social media usage, high profile visits, etc.
That being said, we currently stand #18 on Rivals and are there by the grace of a relationship HCMR had with someone he coached a long time ago. Our D-Line is paper-thin due to no HS or JUCO recruits last year and so far they have seemed to have trouble recruiting a marquee RB. I appreciate the hours and effort this staff is obviously, but I think I will wait until the day after NSD before I admit they are killing it.
I didn't mean to downer your OP, just being cautious.
That being said, we currently stand #18 on Rivals and are there by the grace of a relationship HCMR had with someone he coached a long time ago. Our D-Line is paper-thin due to no HS or JUCO recruits last year and so far they have seemed to have trouble recruiting a marquee RB. I appreciate the hours and effort this staff is obviously, but I think I will wait until the day after NSD before I admit they are killing it.
I didn't mean to downer your OP, just being cautious.
Why are you worried about RB? Easy position to recruit and we are sitting very well with Tilford and not in a bad place for Carr either. The dline problem was blows doing not Riley. Ya they could've at least got one guy but you also didn't anticipate losing 3 dudes in the off season.
Theres a long time till NSD. You should only be excited seeing how much is already done in this class.
The so what is that a good portion of those clowns were calling for heads six games in.
If you want to vent vent. But if you want to change policy based on irrational venting and expect not to be called out later, I have a bridge to sell you.
Their opinions still havent changed. They get laid out for not swallowing some pride, admit they were wrong and say something positive about a commit we just landed.
Very very very few who ragged on Riley and Co recruiting results their first 2 years come and congratulate them when they land a big commit.
Indeed one gets the impression that rather than cheering for the ship to get righted they only care if it happens in a manner agreeable to them by people approved by them.
My point is, instead of calling them out, ignore them and v they'll go away. I think the majority of the time it's just a baited hook seeing who will bite. I said my two cents worth so I'm done with this subject before it can go south. Thanks
There are doing a good job. 18th in team rankings, so there is room for improvement, but certainly putting in a lot of hard work.
It would appear that 17 other teams are 'dominating the recruiting trail' more, so the irrational exuberance continues for some on here..
Star average is about 10th that's really all that matters. They are doing pretty damn good and its only going to improve.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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See... at least one of them still posts.
What do we consider "success" for recruiting? Not a snide approach, rather what benchmark do we use. I like a 20ish team ranking for an annual goal. Seems like that should be doable.
It's what happens years down the road in terms of how well the class performs, and how well the team does win-wise (I am what I am, and a win is a win). The feedback loop on current recruits performing is too long a time, so team recruiting rankings will work for me.
Looking at last year's recruiting ranking now that the dust has cleared, NU finished 27th overall in team recruiting rankings. There was a call to "eat crow". I was guesstimating a closer to 30th finish, I had no problem eating crow. I'd have to go back and look, was the call to eat crow because we finished better than 45th in team recruiting rankings?
If we just duplicate what we have done up til now for this year, we'll finish around 25th in recruiting. We'll need a nice 2nd half of this class to approach the lofty goals of some. And maybe we'll finish great, I think some are already counting their chickens in this regard.
I hope we finish great, I'm a Husker fan. Masry Mapieu was offered and committed at the same time. Whoever we get to commit and sign to finish out this class, are not showing the same level of interest as Mapieu. So, I'm content waiting until signing day.
It's what happens years down the road in terms of how well the class performs, and how well the team does win-wise (I am what I am, and a win is a win). The feedback loop on current recruits performing is too long a time, so team recruiting rankings will work for me.
Looking at last year's recruiting ranking now that the dust has cleared, NU finished 27th overall in team recruiting rankings. There was a call to "eat crow". I was guesstimating a closer to 30th finish, I had no problem eating crow. I'd have to go back and look, was the call to eat crow because we finished better than 45th in team recruiting rankings?
If we just duplicate what we have done up til now for this year, we'll finish around 25th in recruiting. We'll need a nice 2nd half of this class to approach the lofty goals of some. And maybe we'll finish great, I think some are already counting their chickens in this regard.
I hope we finish great, I'm a Husker fan. Masry Mapieu was offered and committed at the same time. Whoever we get to commit and sign to finish out this class, are not showing the same level of interest as Mapieu. So, I'm content waiting until signing day.
They need to swallow their pride. There are some good things happening here in the off season.
Grace of a relationship? That is a good deal of what recruiting is about, so to marginalize it based on a relationship is wrong. D line being paper thin is not on Riley, yet. Bryant is a stud and while not "marquee," we've had a few of those that last few years that haven't exactly torn it up. I would say that the excitement comes in part because of the obvious vast upgrade in effort and coordination, and the expected results.
I was skeptical of Riley and co. when he was hired and have been pleasantly surprised with the recruiting efforts. Its proven every year that you need elite recruiting, especially on both lines, to win championships. Development is great but nobody hits on enough 3 stars and development projects to win championships consistently without elite guys. We are certainly mentioned more by top 250 and 100 guys than any season I can remember with bo, now we need to convert a decent amount of those into commitments. Great start, there's plenty of reasons to be optimistic.
Bryant was a top 10 RB on TOS. Devine Ozigbo was the best RB on the team by the end of the season as a true frosh. I'd say the RB recruiting has been pretty good.
Dude, that's messed up... you can't quote someone and then change the text of their quote.
Re-read my post. I was saying if we had the #2 recruiting ranking that you'd probably post the fixed quote. My bad for not stating that more clearly. Your bad for poo pahing everyone's excitement.
Where would we need to be at right now for you to be satisfied and for exuberance to be rational?
Where do we need to finish in this year's class for you to be satisfied?
Nikki, Surely you can see that the exuberance is more than just current ranking... We have a couple of 5 star receivers coming in next week. We have had all kinds of top flight talent express interest in the huskers.
Now this doesn't mean we will get these guys, but how long has it been since we've had this kind of buzz around the program? The exuberance right now is directly attributed to current recruiting and what is still to come.
Now this doesn't mean we will get these guys, but how long has it been since we've had this kind of buzz around the program? The exuberance right now is directly attributed to current recruiting and what is still to come.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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I understood what you were trying to do. I still think you could have made your point differently.
I was not ready to pop the champagne cork at 4 commits, nor again, here at 5 months in. I do think they are doing a good job. It seems you are looking for validation with this thread or maybe just trolling, but in either case, you do tend to throw out statements that are more like wild pitches. i.e. 'Best recruiting in a couple decades', when it wasn't that long ago that BC did some pretty fine recruiting.
I would be fine with a top 20 class. A top 10 would be pretty sweet. I'm not into being irrational and saying we are dominating the recruiting trail and acting like we just got a playoff invite. My attitude is more like, they are doing good, don't let the foot off the gas pedal. It's not over. It's not party time yet. To me, that approach is more rational.
Surely I can understand people wanting to throw themselves a party and have something to cheer about. But it would be nice to see some of our fan base act like they've been there before. As a fan base, we should expect good recruiting, and act like we belong.. I think that is the main difference in my viewpoint versus some of the others.
Cally's best effort was 2005 and that class was far more about quantity. This is the best overall recruiting effort we have seen at Nebraska in two decades. And to be clear I'm not simply referring to the commit list. I'm talking about the entire machine.
That 2005 class was ranked #1 by Tom Lemming, #5 by Rivals, #10 by Scout, #9 by 247Composite
Five months into the 2017 class, Nebraska is currently ranked #18 by Rivals, #18 by Scout, #24 by 247Composite
Those are the facts Archie.
HCMR and crew have done a strong job with recruiting, so we seem to be trending upward.
That's all they can do at this time. We'll see how all of this translates to winning games, but there are no games to win right now.
Cautiously optimistic.
That's all they can do at this time. We'll see how all of this translates to winning games, but there are no games to win right now.
Cautiously optimistic.