Racism at BYU

[Buckaineer]

At a Duke- BYU Volleyball match in Provo— at least one BYU fan shouted racist words at a Duke volleyball player every time she served. The idiot wasn’t removed And all that happened was a police officer being staged by the Duke bench. The school issued a statement, but obviously more should have happened immediately- the racist(s) should have been removed right away, the match should have been stopped. BYU should probably have forfeited if the fans wouldn’t stop this horrid behavior. For that matter Duke probably should have walked off.

Seeing Tylerites point about BYU- the BIG 12 doesn’t need this horrible attitude or behavior or the stain of it on the conference. Yormark needs to press them to take much stronger action than they have or think about keeping them out of the BIG 12. No BIg 12 athletes can be submitted to such heinous behavior and no visiting athletes or fans for that matter. It’s the sort of crap that kept them from a conference before- and should still.

If nothing more is done then WVU needs to start calling up the ACC and SEC again because WVU definitely can’t be associated with such absolute terrible people or situations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/i...ra-of-failures-and-a-hero-opinion/ar-AA11aOMJ

 

[WVUFanForever]

At a Duke- BYU Volleyball match in Provo— at least one BYU fan shouted racist words at a Duke volleyball player every time she served. The idiot wasn’t removed And all that happened was a police officer being staged by the Duke bench. The school issued a statement, but obviously more should have happened immediately- the racist(s) should have been removed right away, the match should have been stopped. BYU should probably have forfeited if the fans wouldn’t stop this horrid behavior. For that matter Duke probably should have walked off.

Seeing Tylerites point about BYU- the BIG 12 doesn’t need this horrible attitude or behavior or the stain of it on the conference. Yormark needs to press them to take much stronger action than they have or think about keeping them out of the BIG 12. No BIg 12 athletes can be submitted to such heinous behavior and no visiting athletes or fans for that matter.

If nothing more is done then WVU needs to start calling up the ACC and SEC again because WVU definitely can’t be associated with such absolute terrible people or situations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/i...ra-of-failures-and-a-hero-opinion/ar-AA11aOMJ

So you are going to damn the entire school for the actions of one?

And from what I read, it wasn't even a BYU student...but someone simply sitting in their student section.

 

[Buckaineer]

So you are going to damn the entire school for the actions of one?

And from what I read, it wasn't even a BYU student...but someone simply sitting in their student section.

It’s not the action of one— everyone from the fans to the BYU team including its coaches sat there and did nothing. They kept playing and ignored it was happening! And yes, even if it’s one, that simply cannot be tolerated in the BIG 12. No room for that and it’s inexcusable that they didn’t immediately stop The match and remove offending and obviously dangerous people from their facilities. If this were a white player at a black college having racial epithets shouted and their safety endangered then no one would even question immediate and strong action being taken or removal of that program for consideration of league membership. Yormark needs to make it loud and clear such total animal behavior won’t be tolerated in the BIG 12 and demand action be taken.

 

[WVUALLEN]

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

 

[Buckaineer]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article265035654.html

Before BYU joins Big 12, league must give school a reality check on its racism problem

 

[GhostofGraves]

I live in Utah, went to WVU, am a Ute fan over BYU. Something I find interesting is that no video has surfaced. A minor spat in the stands at a baseball game is videoed from 20 different angles and posted immediately. BYU reviewed fan and venue videos and didn't come up with anything...Duke "identified" the person, and he got banned. Hmmm,...wonder why no one "did anything?"

The Duke head coach, assistant coaches, grad assistants, trainers and players didn't do anything? Nothing? Hmm...

Wonder why you haven't see ANY video of it? Maybe, just maybe, we should wait before jumping to conclusions. For example, see the Duke Lacrosse hoax, Jussie Smollett, Nicholas Sandman, Richard Jewell, etc. etc. which were all pushed because they fit an existing narrative. The punish first, find the facts later narrative hurts everyone.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Soft, woke newspaper article.

But mostly, continued prejudice against the mormons by a couple posters here on this forum.

 

[GhostofGraves]

It’s not the action of one— everyone from the fans to the BYU team including its coaches sat there and did nothing. They kept playing and ignored it was happening! And yes, even if it’s one, that simply cannot be tolerated in the BIG 12. No room for that and it’s inexcusable that they didn’t immediately stop The match and remove offending and obviously dangerous people from their facilities. If this were a white player at a black college having racial epithets shouted and their safety endangered then no one would even question immediate and strong action being taken or removal of that program for consideration of league membership. Yormark needs to make it loud and clear such total animal behavior won’t be tolerated in the BIG 12 and demand action be taken.

Not only that, the Duke coach, players, and fans sat there and did nothing!

 

[WVUALLEN]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/mac-engel/article265035654.html

Before BYU joins Big 12, league must give school a reality check on its racism problem

Liberal wuss.

 

[Butler-eer]

Mac Engel is a far left writer. Won't call him a journalist because his columns are opinions. That's not journalism.
Reading his column you can see he is spewing the typical Dem Socialist line. No matter what the apology is, no matter what the facts are .... just attack, make it personal and distort everything.

 

[locustwv]

There’s racism everywhere. You’re never getting rid of it. This country has gone stupid over this.

 

[BigLickMountee]

Wow! WVU joins the SEC because of a mormon fan comment.

Well that is certainly going to happen.

Oh, I hope you are gay. It lessens the probability you reproduce and pass this logic on. Please be gay!

 

[Buckaineer]

There’s racism everywhere. You’re never getting rid of it. This country has gone stupid over this.

Expecting people to tolerate racism is the problem, not people protesting the racism. If people don’t take action and speak up then the wrongdoing racists think they can just do whatever they want and it is causing havoc in the United States and is unnecessary.

 

[locustwv]

Expecting people to tolerate racism is the problem, not people protesting the racism. If people don’t take action and speak up then the wrongdoing racists think they can just do whatever they want and it is causing havoc in the United States and is unnecessary.

I don’t like racism either but it’s never going away. If people would ignore them that would help more than the **** they are doing now.

 

[Buckaineer]

I don’t like racism either but it’s never going away. If people would ignore them that would help more than the **** they are doing now.

Why would someone ignore idiots that are depriving them of life, liberty and happiness? I’m certain you wouldn’t ignore anyone threatening and harassing you in that manner, or one of your children.

Its absurd to say that the perpetrators should be able to do whatever vile and evil thing they want- damaging and harming real people— but the people being harmed should do nothing but “take it”.

NO. The people doing wrong should be punished to the fullest extent possible so that they and their disturbed group will come to understand they cannot behave in that way or do what they are doing to harm others. The racists are the problem, not the targets of the racism.

 

[locustwv]

Why would someone ignore idiots that are depriving them of life, liberty and happiness? I’m certain you wouldn’t ignore anyone threatening and harassing you in that manner, or one of your children.

Its absurd to say that the perpetrators should be able to do whatever vile and evil thing they want- damaging and harming real people— but the people being harmed should do nothing but “take it”.

NO. The people doing wrong should be punished to the fullest extent possible so that they and their disturbed group will come to understand they cannot behave in that way or do what they are doing to harm others. The racists are the problem, not the targets of the racism.

Ok.

 

[spartansstink]

Bucky,

The biggest problem with you bleeding heart liberals is while you bring up good points, you always overreact. You go completely overboard because you base everything off of emotion rather than logic.

Wanting to ban BYU over an ALLEGED incident? An overreaction wouldn't you think? Even if true, should the actions of ONE supposed fan be the cause of an entire population getting punished?

Before you say yes, just try this on for size. Using your emotional lack of logic, WVU should have been banned from joining the B12 because someone allegedly took a dump in UNC's tuba section during the Car Care Bowl in Charlotte. Or because they allegedly hit Randy Shannon with a trash can, threw baggies of piss and batteries multiple times at multiple teams and fans, and the list goes on.

This is why you can't be taken seriously. You behave like a 12 year old girl - overreacting and always looking for drama. A modern day Don Quixote attacking windmills. When someone disagrees with you, rather than attacking their argument you just call them racist. That word used to have meaning, have a sting to it. It doesn't anymore - because of people like you who just throw it out at anyone who doesn't fly off the handle at every seeming injustice.

Grow up and get smarter.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Don't forget the quarter that hit the pitt coach in face.

 

[spartansstink]

Was saving that one.

 

[Buckaineer]

The biggest problem with you hate mongering bigots is YOU always overreact. When one of yours is caught committing treason or crimes and someone tries to punish them.

In this instance your hatred of everyone that doesn't look like you causes the immediate "oh they just need to shut up and submit" overreaction. The "nothing needs to be done" overstatements.

Meanwhile in the REAL world racists are murdering people all over the U.S. and attacking people they don't like because of ? and all idiot bigots do is deny, deny, deny and instead of taking action to STOP the radical behavior and punish the wrong doers, make the repeated asinine statements that there's nothing to see here, its just isolated, its just one person, didn't affect anyone (meaning YOU I suppose?).

It's all of you brain dead FOX NEWS Trump hatemongers that need to change and stop with the repeated UNDERREACTION to the violence YOU are bringing to America for no reason other than your overinflated egos and stupidity and blind following of anyone committing a racist terrorist act as the volleyball team from Duke was subjected to.

The BIG 12 cannot tolerate that behavior and subject its athletes or fans to such animalistic behavior and the inaction that followed. The commissioner and the schools inviting BYU need to make them understand that and take real action, not the worthless words pushed out so far that accomplish nothing and allow acts of hatred like that to occur.

 

[spartansstink]

Just like I stated above.

Nothing from you but overreaction and overemotional responses.

Let me give you an educational beatdown, per se.

The ad hominem and straw man attacks you exhibited are the weakest form of fallacies because they show that you have no evidence and no logic from which to respond. While others may find insult, I simply realize its nothing more than a childish retort from an inferior mind.

You see, in your overzealousness quests and beliefs to right perceived racial injustices, you have unintentionally exhibited YOUR true self - the belief that the black man/woman is racially/socially/educationally your inferior and therefore must be protected and taken care. It is only through you and others like you that the blacks can find true happiness. Now, if that isn't the clearest definition of racism then I don't know what is.

 

[Buckaineer]

Typical rethuglican response to the hate and violence they spread- destroying everything in their path with infantile egos and idiocy.

Racism is a cancer that must be wiped out. It is good for nothing but destruction of everything. Excusing away and minimalizing everything that racists do to harm others is a spoiled child’s response. Adults are needed at this time To address the actual harm being caused to everyone by this insanity. Unfortunately there isn’t one adult amongst the right wing narcissists plaguing our society.

You are not being harmed when people take action against vile idiots like the one(s) who felt like big men while they threatened a young woman who was there to play a game for the entertainment of those watching. She and others were harmed by those actions and it has to stop or be stopped.

 

[ncwvugrad4]

The biggest problem with you hate mongering bigots is YOU always overreact. When one of yours is caught committing treason or crimes and someone tries to punish them.

In this instance your hatred of everyone that doesn't look like you causes the immediate "oh they just need to shut up and submit" overreaction. The "nothing needs to be done" overstatements.

Meanwhile in the REAL world racists are murdering people all over the U.S. and attacking people they don't like because of ? and all idiot bigots do is deny, deny, deny and instead of taking action to STOP the radical behavior and punish the wrong doers, make the repeated asinine statements that there's nothing to see here, its just isolated, its just one person, didn't affect anyone (meaning YOU I suppose?).

It's all of you brain dead FOX NEWS Trump hatemongers that need to change and stop with the repeated UNDERREACTION to the violence YOU are bringing to America for no reason other than your overinflated egos and stupidity and blind following of anyone committing a racist terrorist act as the volleyball team from Duke was subjected to.

The BIG 12 cannot tolerate that behavior and subject its athletes or fans to such animalistic behavior and the inaction that followed. The commissioner and the schools inviting BYU need to make them understand that and take real action, not the worthless words pushed out so far that accomplish nothing and allow acts of hatred like that to occur.

This would be the definition of you overreacting, idiot. You start bringing up stuff like Fox and Trump for no reason whatsoever. I personally can't stand Trump and I can see you're massively overreacting because you let your emotions completely take over whatever sane train of thought you once had 4 posts ago.

 

[WVUFanForever]

The biggest problem with you hate mongering bigots

Always classy....you just proved Spartans point for him...good job.

 

[Buckaineer]

This would be the definition of you overreacting, idiot. You start bringing up stuff like Fox and Trump for no reason whatsoever. I personally can't stand Trump and I can see you're massively overreacting because you let your emotions completely take over whatever sane train of thought you once had 4 posts ago.

Fox and Trump are perfect examples of the complete diversion from reality you brainless right wingers follow.

Fox and Trump lie constantly about everything and you buy it hook line and sinker. They tell you you have a grievance when a person of color is attacked or killed due to racism and you buy into it 100%. They do wrong and just like the racists at BYU —it’s ok and an “ overreaction” because it’s just to much for your poor little pretend aggrieved self to have to hear about , let alone do anything about a very real and dangerous problem?

Its an overreaction that every single time racism happens you look for excuses so you can claim it’s not that bad without ever addressing it. It’s an overreaction to do ANYTHING but ignore when people threaten and attack a young woman publicly because her skin is darker than theirs and all that happens is the usual meaningless speach AFTER damage is done. People are being murdered all over this country due to racist inhuman Right wingers constantly— theDuke team had to have a police officer posted at their bench and to escort them at a volleyball game due to threats and you act as though you have a grievance because you are made aware of it?

Racists think they can do whatever they want no matter how wrong and then tell people they should just accept it because they want them to. That isn’t going to ever happen. It has to be dealt with and the perpetrators punished.

Ignoring -or worse pretending something doesn’t exist for the benefit of people doing wrong so they don’t face any consequences, only the people they harm do, is insanity. It is WRONG. Do you right wingers even acknowledge that there is right and wrong? It’s not wrong to stop what happened at BYU, what happened at BYU was wrong. The BIG 12 doesn’t need racist acts like this happening when fans and/ or athletes go to BYU and they have to be made aware of that and take real actions to stop it before it does, not make speeches where they don’t even mention the disgusting racism.

 

[WVUALLEN]

So Bucky begs for BYU to be in Big 12 and claims it will help put them back in top 3. Now wants them out because some weirdo hurt his feelings with a couple of words aimed towards Duke.

You want to help stop racism then ignore tools like that and don't bring attention to the clowns.

Why not boot Baylor as well. You know the ones that mistreated women. Brought in rapist as transfer players, covered up the mess from the president down to the janitor.

Your meaningless rants are old and stale.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Fox and Trump are perfect examples of the complete diversion from reality you brainless right wingers follow.

Fox and Trump lie constantly about everything and you buy it hook line and sinker. They tell you you have a grievance when a person of color is attacked or killed due to racism and you buy into it 100%. They do wrong and just like the racists at BYU —it’s ok and an “ overreaction” because it’s just to much for your poor little aggrieved self to have to hear about , let alone do anything about a very real and dangerous problem?

Its an overreaction that every single time racism happens you look for excuses so you can claim it’s not that bad without ever addressing it. It’s an overreaction to do ANYTHING but ignore when people threaten and attack a young woman publicly because her skin is darker than theirs and all that happens is the usual meaningless speach AFTER damage is done. People are being murdered all over this country due to racist inhuman Right wingers constantly— theDuke team had to have a police officer posted at their bench and to escort them at a volleyball game due to threats and you act as though you have a grievance because you are made aware of it?

Racists think they can do whatever they want no matter how wrong and then tell people they should just accept it because they want them to. That isn’t going to ever happen. It has to be dealt with and the perpetrators punished.

Ignoring -or worse pretending something doesn’t exist for the benefit of people doing wrong so they don’t face any consequences, only the people they harm do, is insanity. It is WRONG. Do you right wingers even acknowledge that the is right and wrong? The BIG 12 doesn’t need racist acts like this happening when fans and/ or athletes go to BYU and they have to be made aware of that and take real actions to stop it before it does, not make speeches where they don’t even mention the disgusting racism.

You're completely wrong as usual.

See Baylor. Oh wait I guess you're OK with rape and mistreatment of women.

 

[ncwvugrad4]

Fox and Trump are perfect examples of the complete diversion from reality you brainless right wingers follow.

Fox and Trump lie constantly about everything and you buy it hook line and sinker. They tell you you have a grievance when a person of color is attacked or killed due to racism and you buy into it 100%. They do wrong and just like the racists at BYU —it’s ok and an “ overreaction” because it’s just to much for your poor little pretend aggrieved self to have to hear about , let alone do anything about a very real and dangerous problem?

Its an overreaction that every single time racism happens you look for excuses so you can claim it’s not that bad without ever addressing it. It’s an overreaction to do ANYTHING but ignore when people threaten and attack a young woman publicly because her skin is darker than theirs and all that happens is the usual meaningless speach AFTER damage is done. People are being murdered all over this country due to racist inhuman Right wingers constantly— theDuke team had to have a police officer posted at their bench and to escort them at a volleyball game due to threats and you act as though you have a grievance because you are made aware of it?

Racists think they can do whatever they want no matter how wrong and then tell people they should just accept it because they want them to. That isn’t going to ever happen. It has to be dealt with and the perpetrators punished.

Ignoring -or worse pretending something doesn’t exist for the benefit of people doing wrong so they don’t face any consequences, only the people they harm do, is insanity. It is WRONG. Do you right wingers even acknowledge that there is right and wrong? It’s not wrong to stop what happened at BYU, what happened at BYU was wrong. The BIG 12 doesn’t need racist acts like this happening when fans and/ or athletes go to BYU and they have to be made aware of that and take real actions to stop it before it does, not make speeches where they don’t even mention the disgusting racism.

You have mental issues.

 

[WVUALLEN]

You have mental issues.

That he does.

 

[Buckaineer]

You have mental issues.

No I don’t have issues- but you obviously do since you can’t comprehend that stopping and punishing racism doesn’t harm you- unless perhaps you are a racist engaged in racist acts of course.

 

[ncwvugrad4]

No I don’t have issues- but you obviously do since you can’t comprehend that stopping and punishing racism doesn’t harm you- unless perhaps you are a racist engaged in racist acts of course.

Spoken like a true Dem, everyone is racist!

 

[GhostofGraves]

https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/byu-duke-volleyball

Hmmm....details and facts don't match the original media narrative. Isn't that interesting?

 

[NNFAN]

No I don’t have issues- but you obviously do since you can’t comprehend that stopping and punishing racism doesn’t harm you- unless perhaps you are a racist engaged in racist acts of course.

Buck... think it's time to return to your mom's basement in Seattle. Or was it Portland?

 

[NNFAN]

https://www.deseret.com/2022/8/31/23330206/byu-duke-volleyball

Hmmm....details and facts don't match the original media narrative. Isn't that interesting?

So basically a national story because ONE person in the entire building heard a word that nobody else heard. Meanwhile hundreds of black on black shootings across the country this week and crickets from the national media.

 

[WVUFanForever]

What do you say now buckster that the whole thing has been proven to be a hoax?

You must feel like a complete *** for your attacks and assumptions on here.

Don't believe everything you see on the news dumbass.

 

[Clonewithasigh]

I live in Utah, went to WVU, am a Ute fan over BYU. Something I find interesting is that no video has surfaced. A minor spat in the stands at a baseball game is videoed from 20 different angles and posted immediately. BYU reviewed fan and venue videos and didn't come up with anything...Duke "identified" the person, and he got banned. Hmmm,...wonder why no one "did anything?"

The Duke head coach, assistant coaches, grad assistants, trainers and players didn't do anything? Nothing? Hmm...

Wonder why you haven't see ANY video of it? Maybe, just maybe, we should wait before jumping to conclusions. For example, see the Duke Lacrosse hoax, Jussie Smollett, Nicholas Sandman, Richard Jewell, etc. etc. which were all pushed because they fit an existing narrative. The punish first, find the facts later narrative hurts everyone.

The young lady that is making the claim has a very controversial past. Upon investigation, she appears to have numerous online communications that are racist in nature. They are just not sure that she is credible. It also doesn’t appear that there are any other complaints or even corroboration of the incident. I’m not saying her claims are bogus, but it is not adding up so there needs to be further investigation.

 

[Clonewithasigh]

Liberal wuss.

I live in Tarrant County and have been ignoring Engel for years. These liberal columnists just assume that you are supposed to take their opinions as fact. This really goes much deeper because there are many folks that struggle to look at issues objectively because of the way it is presented. The media has dumbed down certain folks and they never developed critical though process. BYU took appropriate action and the issue should be put to bed. Condemning a whole University or program based upon the actions of one individual that attended a sporting event, is not only very short sighted but it demonstrates the very bias that is being condemned.

 

[NNFAN]

Wow... turns out volleyball player's family has history of racism themselves. Check out the 9:35 mark on attached video. Player's godmother anti-white social media post exposed.

 

[WVUFanForever]

Bucky absent now since its been proven a hoax.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Bucky bolts for BLM.