Ranking all the power 5 colleges recruiting ability....
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And that is why many UGA fans, me included, got down on Mark Richt's recruiting style. He relied too much on trying to bring in kids from out of state when we could fill a class with 4 and 5 star kids less than an hour from campus. We have had Atlanta 5* we didn't even recruit, much less offer. Don't think that will be an issue now.
It isn't harder to recruit here than several schools ranked above us. UNC, UL, Northwestern, UVA. I think we have had better classes than all those schools the last few years. Not sure why anyone ever produces a stupid list like this. I guess because stupid people like us read it.
Saying it's easier to recruit at UL than at UK is pure ignorance. Is UL better than us? Well yes, but who isn't. But UK has recruiting advantages over UL all day long. We have a fan base that's 10 to 15 times the size of ULs, we have better facilities & UK has the prestige of being a member of the SEC. Plus over the last several years UK has consistently had higher ranked recruiting than UL.
I don't know about better facilities, but I'll give you the SEC advantage for now. Really it's hard for both schools due to the lack of in-state talent and the perception both schools are basketball schools.
The reason why I think they said Louisville has better classes is the fact they mentioned the ultimate recruiting ranking...the amount of players that over the past couple of years that are now in the National Football League and the article did mention that fact...also, last year Louisville did have the higher ranked class as compared to Kentucky and Louisville is currently on course to have a Top 25 Rivals Recruiting Class for 2016...this is their indepth analysts of Louisville...also keep in mind a lot of it is in relations to ACC-(For Louisville) & SEC-(For Kentucky)
Louisville Cardinals:
Favorable geography/local recruiting territory: 3 -- The state of Kentucky has only produced 174 Power 5 conference signees since 2006. The Cardinals rely little on in-state talent, but heavily on talented states in the region such as Georgia, Florida, Alabama, the Mississippi community colleges and neighboring states to the east and Ohio to the north.
Recruiting/football budget: 3 -- The $209,000 2013 budget in 2013 was very small in comparison to the competition in the conference and region, but that budget is growing quickly.
Facilities to attract recruits: 3 -- Louisville has made strides in this area with Papa John’s Cardinal Stadium having expanded in 2010. There have also been recent upgrades to the Howard Schnellenberger Complex, and many other upgrades in athletic facilities.
Next-level considerations: 3 -- Louisville has had 18 players selected in the NFL Draft since 2010, and four first-round selections including QB Teddy Bridgewater.
Other intangibles: 4 -- While Louisville has made significant strides in terms of facilities, the Cardinals lack the winning history and ideal location to be a consistent national presence. Athletics director Tom Jurich has done a masterful job upgrading the school’s athletics as a whole, and has built Louisville into one that can contend in a Power 5 conference in many sports with a top-four budget in the ACC. The Cardinals also have a very passionate fan base.
This is what they said about Kentucky:
Kentucky Wildcats:
Favorable geography/local recruiting territory: 1 -- The state of Kentucky has only produced 174 Power 5 conference signees since 2006.
Recruiting/football budget: 4 -- $504k, according to the most recent data. Kentucky has done a nice job of recruiting in Ohio and Florida. Despite the lack of on-field success, the Wildcats are spending the money to go find recruits.
Facilities to attract recruits: 3 -- Kentucky is making tremendous strides with stadium renovations and new football facilities, but trails everyone but Vandy and Ole Miss in terms of SEC stadium size (62,093). In some cases there is a 40,000 seat or more difference between Commonwealth Stadium and other stadiums in the SEC. The size of the stadium (and by extension fan base) matters to many recruits.
Next-level considerations: 3 -- Kentucky has had 10 players selected in the NFL draft since 2010.
Other intangibles: 2 -- While Kentucky has made significant progress in many areas under Mark Stoops, there isn’t a history of greatness that recruits will recognize. Many recruits also view the Wildcats as a “basketball school,” which can hurt in terms of perception.
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I think that a lot of the article is garbage. UK's main drag is a lack of success, but the ingredients to be successful are much higher at UK than at some of the peer schools on the list like Purdue, Northwestern, UL, and others.
With respect to the UK / UL comparison, I'm not sure how UL "recruiting territory" is a 3 and UK's is a 1. The local recruiting territory is equally good (or more likely) bad for both. In fact, I would argue that UK's local recruiting territory is stronger than UL b/c UK grabs a ton of players from Ohio while UL's main secondary source of players is Florida.
With respect to the UK / UL comparison, I'm not sure how UL "recruiting territory" is a 3 and UK's is a 1. The local recruiting territory is equally good (or more likely) bad for both. In fact, I would argue that UK's local recruiting territory is stronger than UL b/c UK grabs a ton of players from Ohio while UL's main secondary source of players is Florida.
What stands out to me PublicEnemy is the "geography" difference. I'd consider the difference between UL and UK a wash. To recruits, the city of Louisville is likely a better destination than Lexington......not to mention the amount of recruits that come out of Louisville metro area as opposed to Lexington. This helps UL. But I would wager that UK probably "could" pull the majority of state recruits compared to UL. That favors UK.
Pretty much agree...to me the main difference is that your-(Kentucky Competition/SEC) is even in the best years is going to be in the bottom 3rd of the league....Louisville in the ACC with comparable classes is in the upper half...if UK was in the ACC it would be the same as UofL IMO
They don't mention conference identity as a factor which seems dumb since so many of our recruits mention their desire to play in the SEC as a major factor in choosing UK.
Geography, Facilities, Game Day atmosphere are the major factors = we are in the same geographical area as UofL and have better facilities, better game day atmosphere and play in a better conference but they rate them 17 points above us?
Anyway if you want to accept these rankings that Stoops and his staff are the most overachieving coaching staff in the country.
Geography, Facilities, Game Day atmosphere are the major factors = we are in the same geographical area as UofL and have better facilities, better game day atmosphere and play in a better conference but they rate them 17 points above us?
Anyway if you want to accept these rankings that Stoops and his staff are the most overachieving coaching staff in the country.
Those rankings got real stupid after about the first 15. Sorry, but Minnesota is not an easier recruiting gig vs KY.........and MD, UNC, Washington, Miss St. aren't either. These last 4 they have ahead of SC???? UNC and MD haven't been close to SC in the past 20 years, but somehow they have a recruiting advantage? While this was a nice idea for an article............it had zero research. I'll guarantee this author has never seen SC facilities (nor KY's). SC has developed some of the nicest facilities in the country over the past 6 years and takes a back seat to no one in the SEC any longer. Of course, UT has a bigger stadium (which looks like the homeless section of town on one side). I guess that matters. They gave a face lift to one side of their stadium and cleaned it up a little, but the inside and rest of the stadium is a dump. KY is working towards similar results on upgrades to SC and I doubt this guy has seen any of that either. But it's easy to make statements like in that article when there's no one there to fact check you or debate you.