This is correct. This was a Anthony Cassar deal
Uh, no. Cassar didn't qualify for the NJ state championships until his senior year.
He didn't get many looks from other schools.
This is correct. This was a Anthony Cassar deal
I think he meant that in terms of the perfect storm at HWT for both.Uh, no. Cassar didn't qualify for the NJ state championships until his senior year.
He didn't get many looks from other schools.
Recall how DT got to PSU, came with Cael when he left ISU. Talent follows coaching……good for the sport.Taylor is w/o doubt a great wrestler with many levels of success and has earned his opportunity in coaching at Oklahoma State. He had a front row seat at PSU to learn from Cael and a wonderful experience with NLWC. The difference between Cael and DT has to do with character. Cael demonstrates beyond reproach behavior. While no one is perfect, he works at it. OTOH, DT took a coaching job and then attempted, as the story is told by insiders, to take some PSU wrestlers with him. While poaching happens in the athletic world, it certainly shouldn't come at the expense of the mentor/employer. I like him a lot less than I did when he was at PSU. Maybe that's just part of viewing non-PSU folks as the enemy.
Exactly Cael has brought guys from no where and turned them into Champions. DT needs to do that before he becomes a threat. Sorry I didn’t word my point very well.Uh, no. Cassar didn't qualify for the NJ state championships until his senior year.
He didn't get many looks from other schools.
I think you have touched on something that isn’t mentioned enough in fostering the success that PSU has achieved as a program and that is the loyalty of the assistant coaches. These guys could easily be running their own programs elsewhere as head coaches but choose to stay.Being a former PSU wrestler and big-time PSU fan, I will always root for PSU wrestlers to succeed in life, regardless of their chosen path. So I wish DT well except when he wrestles us.
Clearly, DT is a very, very good coach. I think he also has the reputation and personality to be a great recruiter. What I haven't been able to determine is whether his personality can result in the type of success Cael has had. Their personalities are completely different, with Cael being much more understated, and I believe he sets expectations well with parents, his athletes, and the PSU administration. I'm not sure DT will do the same, and I wonder whether some of the coaching defections that have happened are due to this. Will this issue impact his athletes and administrative support in the future? Time will tell. Cael and his staff have always seemed to be on exactly the same page about everything, while I'm not sure DT and staff are.
If I'm betting on future success, it's hard not to bet on Cael and staff, so I will just continue to watch this rivalry evolve and enjoy the ride!
I don't disagree with how good they are and how integral they are to our success. Realistically, where would each go. There are established coaches at all the top places. I would guess the number of places looking to upgrade their program are few and far between who could pay more than what they are getting today........along with hiring a staff and having the resources that they have today.I think you have touched on something that isn’t mentioned enough in fostering the success that PSU has achieved as a program and that is the loyalty of the assistant coaches. These guys could easily be running their own programs elsewhere as head coaches but choose to stay.
I am fairly certain that Cael makes sure they are well compensated for being assistants but I am more certain that they could be making more money on their own. I think they realize that they are part of something very special that we may not see again anytime soon.
We are blessed to have these individuals running the program. With Cael we will always have a top program. Cael plus these assistants raise that to a level where we will always have THE top program as long as they stick around and can still roll around on the mats with the kids.
By all accounts I’ve heard, it was only after Casey passed on the Ok St job that they pursued DT.I don't disagree with how good they are and how integral they are to our success. Realistically, where would each go. There are established coaches at all the top places. I would guess the number of places looking to upgrade their program are few and far between who could pay more than what they are getting today........along with hiring a staff and having the resources that they have today.
Sure there might be a school out there with some uber wealthy guy who is ready to roll out the bank truck, but until that happens, they will have to stay in SC and suffer through the winning.
Absolutely.I'm of the opinion that Cael is successful as he is due to the coaches around him and i think he would agree. One could argue that psu wrestling would not have been as successful as it is without the team approach to coaching
Didn’t know that, thanksBy all accounts I’ve heard, it was only after Casey passed on the Ok St job that they pursued DT.
Don't know if you are being serious or not. But Cael has said many times how fortunate he is to have the asst. Coaches he has and they could be heading their own programs.I don't disagree with how good they are and how integral they are to our success. Realistically, where would each go. There are established coaches at all the top places. I would guess the number of places looking to upgrade their program are few and far between who could pay more than what they are getting today........along with hiring a staff and having the resources that they have today.
Sure there might be a school out there with some uber wealthy guy who is ready to roll out the bank truck, but until that happens, they will have to stay in SC and suffer through the winning.
Don't know if you are being serious or not. But Cael has said many times how fortunate he is to have the asst. Coaches he has and they could be heading their own programs.
Very serious. I doubt there are too many schools who pay their HC as much as these guys make. I don’t have the data to back that up…….just a guess. Iowa isn’t getting rid of TnT. OSU isn’t ditching Ryan. Neb isn’t ditching Manning. Cornell…. same. ASU, same. Mizzu….same. So maybe, big maybe, Minny, or Wiscy or Rutgers are your options in the Big Ten. Go there to be the head guy, make a little more money and never have the resources to compete……. Unless they have a Paycom guy willing to write checks. Even then…….Don't know if you are being serious or not. But Cael has said many times how fortunate he is to have the asst. Coaches he has and they could be heading their own programs.
If Casey or Cody made it known they wanted to leave and lead their own program a number of those schools you first mentioned would do everything in their power to hire them including moving on from their established coaches. No one would be safe if Casey decided to leave. It just isn’t happening thoughVery serious. I doubt there are too many schools who pay their HC as much as these guys make. I don’t have the data to back that up…….just a guess. Iowa isn’t getting rid of TnT. OSU isn’t ditching Ryan. Neb isn’t ditching Manning. Cornell…. same. ASU, same. Mizzu….same. So maybe, big maybe, Minny, or Wiscy or Rutgers are your options in the Big Ten. Go there to be the head guy, make a little more money and never have the resources to compete……. Unless they have a Paycom guy willing to write checks. Even then…….
Could they do great? Sure. But why? You are in this position where you are transforming collegiate wrestling and USA wrestling on the international level.
Where else are you going to have that impact????
Several of those coaches are in their late 50s or 60s and would getVery serious. I doubt there are too many schools who pay their HC as much as these guys make. I don’t have the data to back that up…….just a guess. Iowa isn’t getting rid of TnT. OSU isn’t ditching Ryan. Neb isn’t ditching Manning. Cornell…. same. ASU, same. Mizzu….same. So maybe, big maybe, Minny, or Wiscy or Rutgers are your options in the Big Ten. Go there to be the head guy, make a little more money and never have the resources to compete……. Unless they have a Paycom guy willing to write checks. Even then…….
Could they do great? Sure. But why? You are in this position where you are transforming collegiate wrestling and USA wrestling on the international level.
Where else are you going to have that impact????
Cael's staff is saying, thru their actions, that there are more important things in life than just maximizing one's highest five years of earnings, or net financial worth, or whatever other monetary metric "highly successful" folks may choose to measure their success by.Don't know if you are being serious or not. But Cael has said many times how fortunate he is to have the asst. Coaches he has and they could be heading their own programs.