Recruiting
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I'm mistaken...not middie school..at best third grade. Arrested development for squirrels is a tragic thing. Lol.
Individually some kids rise and some kids fall. But when you take a look at the overall rating of the WHOLE class, ratings do matter.
NAH. PERFORMANCE MATTERS FAR MORE. BY THE TIME THEY ARE PLAYING THEIR SENIOR SEASON, THEN YOU HAVE A GOOD READING ON HOW WELL WVU DID OR DIDN'T DO BY GETTING THAT PLAYER. THERE ARE SO MANY BOOMS AND BUSTS, 1-STARS THAT SHINE AND 5-STARS THAT PLUMMET. HISTORY IS FULL OF IT. THAT'S WHY I DON'T GET EXCITED ABOUT RECRUITING NEWS ALTHOUGH IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COACHING STAFF WHAT TALENT IT ASSEMBLES BUT I LOSE MY MIND WHEN I SEE PERFORMANCES ON THE FIELD LIKE TAVON AUSTIN, DARRYL TALLEY, PAT WHITE, OWEN SCHMIDT! THAT IS WHEN I GET REALLY INTERESTED. SHOW ME. DON'T TELL ME. I MAY NOT BE FROM MISSOURI BUT THEY HAVE A DAMN GOOD MOTTO.
How do ratings matter...specifically? Do recruiting ratings suit up? Media created fan myth.
I get that fans from rival schools might come onto the free board just to put down WVU any way they can just for sport. It's a very weak form of bullying where you don't have to worry about retaliation.
What I do not understand is Mountaineer bashers and so called 'realists' paying to spew their venom on the Blue Lot. Realist = pessimist. Yes, if you won the lottery you would have to pay all those taxes, friends and relatives would come out of the woodwork begging and gold diggers will suck you dry and leave you not only broke but deep in debt.
As an optimist I don't look at it that way. If I win the lottery, WVU wins a championship or I somehow come into money I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts and be happy as hell. I'd likely spend half of it on hot women and good times. I'd probably just blow the rest. [banana]
What I do not understand is Mountaineer bashers and so called 'realists' paying to spew their venom on the Blue Lot. Realist = pessimist. Yes, if you won the lottery you would have to pay all those taxes, friends and relatives would come out of the woodwork begging and gold diggers will suck you dry and leave you not only broke but deep in debt.
As an optimist I don't look at it that way. If I win the lottery, WVU wins a championship or I somehow come into money I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts and be happy as hell. I'd likely spend half of it on hot women and good times. I'd probably just blow the rest. [banana]
OF COURSE NEAL BROWN WILL LEAVE IF HE HAS A GREAT SEASON. THEY ALL DID, EXCEPT NEHLEN, AND HE WAS EAGER TO LEAVE FOR OHIO STATE, TWICE! BUT EXACTLY WHERE DOES 2ND TIER BEGIN? AFTER TOP 10? AFTER ALABAMA AND REST OF TOP 5? AFTER TOP 25? BE SPECIFIC WITH YOUR PISSING ON WVU POST, PLEASE.
You use the word pissing a lot. Perhaps you should broaden your vocabulary.
You want proof.......
Here is the analysis. In the grand scheme of things, stars do matter.
Yes and Yes. Having over 50% Blue Chip recruits isn't automatic to get into the NC games but looking at the Blue Chip Ratio you can't deny that not making 50% is a disqualifier.
Here is a quick overview from a couple years ago that still holds true today.
Blue-Chip Ratio 2019
This is Bud Elliott’s statistical benchmark for the minimum talent needed in order to win a national title.
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Then according to you WVU's inability to attract 4 and 5 star 18 year olds means that following the Mountaineers is a futile exercise when mediocrity is the best we can achieve?
Evaluation...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturd...-draft-picks-by-star-recruiting-rankings/amp/
Like the article says there are more three stars than four and five stars but the numbers show that schools who evaluate well can compete without the 4 and 5 stars
Five-star: 19
Four-star: 73
Three-star: 110
Two-star: 32
Not Ranked: 21
92 Blue Chip draft picks out of the 300 of so players
163 non blue chip players drafted
Yes those players are important but you must take the first step...
That is evaluating well and then developing those players into NFL Draft Picks
Then you can get the 4 and 5 stars to mix with the high ceiling guys who aren't highly rated.
Ultimately you want those high ceiling guys and often times they aren't highly rated players.
The rankings like the high floor guys whose bodies developed in high school
https://www.google.com/amp/s/saturd...-draft-picks-by-star-recruiting-rankings/amp/
Like the article says there are more three stars than four and five stars but the numbers show that schools who evaluate well can compete without the 4 and 5 stars
Five-star: 19
Four-star: 73
Three-star: 110
Two-star: 32
Not Ranked: 21
92 Blue Chip draft picks out of the 300 of so players
163 non blue chip players drafted
Yes those players are important but you must take the first step...
That is evaluating well and then developing those players into NFL Draft Picks
Then you can get the 4 and 5 stars to mix with the high ceiling guys who aren't highly rated.
Ultimately you want those high ceiling guys and often times they aren't highly rated players.
The rankings like the high floor guys whose bodies developed in high school
Completely untrue
The issue isn't recruiting rankings. The issue is not having NFL talent.
Coaches can attract NFL talent if they can prove they can develop players
But that is improving. Will continue to do so.
Especially at Defensive Back. Actually a brilliant scheme that won't end because Addae left for Georgia.
Numerous players who can play S/CB
You should be more careful. Forgetting which identity you're using makes you look so unprofessional.
Not sure Root but I do think that the players who make up the ratings do suit up. One question , do you ( root ) think that WVU would win more games if they trade their players that Alabama recruits?
Obviously there are different levels of players coming out of high school. Schools like Alabama et al have the history and swagger to attract the best. That said...a bunch of sports hangers on attaching their opinion of how many stars a teenager should have and fan bases drooling over a child is stupid. Great coaches dont recruit "stars", they recruit players...character...potential...and values.
Let's not be stupid in our thinking. Stars are given on player current ability and potential. Coaches then have to evaluate their character and personal values before offering.
Recruiting is about to change. Everything is about to be in the open
WV doesn’t have professional sports. So WVU would be the best place to use for advertising.
Connect your car dealership to a WVU football or basketball player
I will tell you right now there could be issues
Just imagine you pay 100K for a supposed 5 star RB. Not even playing
I will be pissed. Especially if I have enough power to tell the coach what to do
WV doesn’t have professional sports. So WVU would be the best place to use for advertising.
Connect your car dealership to a WVU football or basketball player
I will tell you right now there could be issues
Just imagine you pay 100K for a supposed 5 star RB. Not even playing
I will be pissed. Especially if I have enough power to tell the coach what to do
Hey, Idiot. Pay attention, if you can master enough brain cells to accomplish such a feat.
I NEVER said Vernon should BAN you. Never. I suggested you do the realistic thing, judging from the nonsensical posts you author revgarding negativism and WVU football (maybe WVU athletics in general), and find another team. I was just making that transition a bit easier by being willing to compensate for the departure of a paying but worthless subscriber.
SO, in the future, IF you are going to reference something I authored, please have someone with, at least, average intelligence fead your response prior to issuing it so as to not misrepresent that to which you are stupidly responding.
Got it?
So you want a board of cheerleaders? That is what you imply. WVU is second tier. Deal with it.
Lose the opener it's 6-6 or 7-5. Win the opener and it's 7-5 or 8-4.
Let us know when you become WVU head coach. We will all not support you.
I want supporters whoo provide useful information based on facts. You surely qualify as a non-cheerleader but opinionated, blow-hard, know-it-all who only pretends (mainly to self) that he is a WVU FAN. Why not just move one to sites that relate to some other team (or sport)? This will be my last installment of communication with you. You join the menagerie of other negative low lives that grace my 'ignore' file.
BYE!
I love how the know it all fans like eerdoc always...always...address folks who don't agree with their insanely pollyanna view of wvu football with the same post content. Things like go away...you're not a real fan...you're a low life...should be banned...ignore! Folks like doc scream agree with me or be cast out. You must share my opinion! Funny.
Those are typically the ones that are unable to start/create a sensible post on sports. You know who they are. Same bunch that tells you how you're ruining the board, but yet, all they can come up with is 'why are you here'?
Unless you are a Top 5 program you need to to do one of two things.
1) Come up with a scheme that is different and you can fill with largely 3 star players.
2) Look for talent in unusual places.
RRod did the first. The 3-3-5 emphasized smaller faster players . It's easier to recruit a bunch of 6'1" 210 pound guys than a 6'3" 250 pound guy.
Brown looking at foreign players will play out well I believe.
I've said it a million times. I would recruit every super-heavyweight state wrestling champion in the biggest 15-20 states to play OL and DL. Even if only 1 or two take the bait, it would pay benefits.
1) Come up with a scheme that is different and you can fill with largely 3 star players.
2) Look for talent in unusual places.
RRod did the first. The 3-3-5 emphasized smaller faster players . It's easier to recruit a bunch of 6'1" 210 pound guys than a 6'3" 250 pound guy.
Brown looking at foreign players will play out well I believe.
I've said it a million times. I would recruit every super-heavyweight state wrestling champion in the biggest 15-20 states to play OL and DL. Even if only 1 or two take the bait, it would pay benefits.